The top ten Heavyweight Legacies of the fighters from 1999 to current

[Engine512]

Have we all forgotten about what COULD have been with Ike Ibeabuchi if he had not wasted it all away on hookers, or a hooker.

[Willow The Wisp]

Talk about De ja Vou! Those were the exact words Ive heard twice in my life, regarding a school assignment. The first time was in fifth grade just before I got my paper back with a big fat F... The second time was in Graduate school when I pilloried Hegel in the class of a philosophy prof who... you guessed it... LOVED Hegel!

Lol. Yes indeed. Still, for you there would be redemption.

[Dr. Z]

Was rewatching Fury fights recently, and it almost feels like we could, historically say that there's a difference between Ben Davison Fury and Kronk Fury. I'd be curious to hear your take on the differences. For instance, Fury in the first Wilder fight kept Wilder to landing only 17% of his punches. Fury in the rematch let through 34%, and 20.3 in the trilogy, of which most were power punches. I think Chisora was landing in the 35% range in the trilogy fight. His Kronk style seems to be better at getting stoppages, but also easier to hit. Kronk Fury seems like he relies more on using his size to bully his smaller opponents, while Davison Fury used a lot more movement, body and feet and head all, and boxed from the outside more. Almost made me feel like from the perspective of history that there's 5 relevant heavies.

Well Fury's defense is average, that's why Wilder landed and Chisora landed as much as they did. Fury had no Kronk style. Maybe Wlad. In his prime he was tough to hit.

That's why he really lost on points to McDermott, and he was cut to ribbons by Wallin. Along with needing to foul five times in five separate fights and was docked points. He really should have drawn or lost vs an 0-0 37 year old fighter. This PED cheater isn't nearly as good as his fans say. He seeks to fight the old and shot fighters facing very few top ten ranked fighters in their prime.

[Ivich]

Well Fury's defense is average, that's why Wilder landed and Chisora landed as much as they did. Fury had no Kronk style. Maybe Wlad. In his prime he was tough to hit.

That's why he really lost on points to McDermott, and he was cut to ribbons by Wallin. Along with needing to foul five times in five separate fights and was docked points. He really should have drawn or lost vs an 0-0 37 year old fighter. This PED cheater isn't nearly as good as his fans say. He seeks to fight the old and shot fighters facing very few top ten ranked fighters in their prime.

I'm not a Fury fan ,but he was having his 8th fight against 30 fight McDermott,and he stopped him in the rematch a couple of fights later.Fury got a bad cut against Wallin,but it was ONE cut,and he won clearly.

Let's have things in perspective.

[QueensburyRules]

Have we all forgotten about what COULD have been with Ike Ibeabuchi if he had not wasted it all away on hookers, or a hooker.

- - Tua beat up Ike to no acclaim. Ike was materially hurt for life after that bout with a permanent headache and delusions of love over large major appliances.

Not to mention kidnapping that 5 yr old and running him into a concrete highway bridge abutment in my community, a clear suicide attempt...R.I.P.

[Willow The Wisp]

Let's have things in perspective.

That's a tough standard to uphold for any troll!

[Dr. Z]

I'm not a Fury fan ,but he was having his 8th fight against 30 fight McDermott,and he stopped him in the rematch a couple of fights later.Fury got a bad cut against Wallin,but it was ONE cut,and he won clearly.

Let's have things in perspective.

Good to know, and he lost the first fight to fat John McDermott. Watch the full fight on you tube. And is a pro PED cheater AND a confirmed fowler docked points s in five separate fights. He should have been docked more in his last fight vs. an 0-0 boxer in round six. That was a mean elbow.

Has Fury beaten a ring magazine ranked contender besides Wilder who was in his prime, in shape and ranked when he fought them? Well, has he? A revealing type of answer. That is if you choose to answer it.

Thanks for you input in my thread.

[Ivich]

Good to know, and he lost the first fight to fat John McDermott. Watch the full fight on you tube. And is a pro PED cheater AND a confirmed fowler docked points s in five separate fights. He should have been docked more in his last fight vs. an 0-0 boxer in round six. That was a mean elbow.

Has Fury beaten a ring magazine ranked contender besides Wilder who was in his prime, in shape and ranked when he fought them? Well, has he? A revealing type of answer. That is if you choose to answer it.

Thanks for you input in my thread.

I've seen the fight, it was close and a draw would have been a good result imo.

.I used to watch McDermott's Father,Stan ,they would put him on as the "walkout bout" as he generally either ko'd his opponent or was ko'd himself.

I don't think Fury is any dirtier a fighter than Wlad who was deducted points in 3 fights,and would have had more taken away if other fights had not been held in Germany,one opposing corner refused to leave the ring because of his illegal tactics,and the referee was very lenient in the Povetkin fight , only taking one point for his disgraceful leaning on ,and he should have had a warning for trying to butt AJ.

I said I am not a Fury fan,I believe he has only fought 2/3 Ring ranked opponents, except for Wilder , I don't consider any of them ,including Whyte to have been prime.

[Dr. Z]

I guess I can take that reply. By the way, which three fights was Wlad deducted points in his 69 fight career? 69 fights is nearly three times as much as the foul man Fury had. IMO he could have had more points taken away from him on clear fouls.



In comparison to Fury, Wlad is a cleaner man, and one who fought much more ring magazine opponents their prime.

[The D3vil]

No Wilder is not close to Wlad's legacy. He clearly did not fight the same quality of competition.

Please list Wilder's best win. You ducking this question.

I didn't say he was as great as Vlad.

Learn to read dooofus.

I said, his level of competition was crappy.

Wlad's 20-something title defenses makes him the definitive champion of the post-Lennox era, but he never fought anybody as good as a prime Tyson Fury, period.

And I think a Luis Ortiz that everybody else was running away from like the plague was his best win.

It's not great, but its symbolic of the modern HW division where only to me Tyson Fury has beaten anybody of note.

- - Dude, I know you don't have any other place to go after they kicked you permanently outta of elementary school, but clearly those leaking BarneyBigBoys need tending by your minder.

First fight AJ had Usyk at the point of stoppage in most illegite boxing jurisdictions, but AJ in a fairly officiated fight loses a tight decision. This after Usyk was cleaned up, stitched up, and prepared for a post presser. usyk-wins.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1.jpg


Pov caught out in the crosshairs of shyte drug testing. Deyonce a TBA Haymon fighter blanched and never made it to Moscow. Hightailed back to his Alabamy Peanut Farm as further VADA testing proved Pov clean, ie:

Povetkin vs. Wilder, cancellation[edit]


It was announced that Povetkin would fight WBC World Champion Deontay Wilder (36-0, 35 KOs) in Moscow, Russia, on a date set to yet be announced at the Megasport Arena. It was originally set for May 21, 2016 until Povetkin failed a drug test.^[109] On May 14, it was reported that Povetkin had failed a drugs test.^[110] The fight has been put in jeopardy after he tested positive for the banned substance meldonium. Promotor Andrei Ryabinsky added that Povetkin did take meldonium last year, but stopped before it was banned, and only "leftover traces of meldonium at a very low concentration" were found in a blood sample given by the 36-year-old last month. It was reported on May 15, that the assertion from Povetkin's promoter that it was in his system only because he took it late last year, before it was banned, appeared untrue.^[111] The WBC announced on May 15, a week before the fight that it would be postponed.^[112] On May 31, it was announced on Sky Sports by Povetkin's promoters that new drug test results prove the Povetkin is a clean athlete. The new doping test, taken May 17, showed no traces of meldonium. This was reported by VADA.<sup>[113]

I recommend Harry Potters. They have smart warnings of overflow notices for your minder to attend to...sorted...</sup>

At no point was Usyk in any real danger to lose the 1st fight

If there had been, you Brits would've definitely made his victory "controversial", but everybody knows AJ got his ass whooped TWO TIMES by Usyk DEFINITIVELY

Y'all the most delusional fanbase in boxing

You prolly think Dubois is the "real HW champion" right now.

And you did a whole lot to defend a drug cheat like Povetkin

Was rewatching Fury fights recently, and it almost feels like we could, historically say that there's a difference between Ben Davison Fury and Kronk Fury. I'd be curious to hear your take on the differences. For instance, Fury in the first Wilder fight kept Wilder to landing only 17% of his punches. Fury in the rematch let through 34%, and 20.3 in the trilogy, of which most were power punches. I think Chisora was landing in the 35% range in the trilogy fight. His Kronk style seems to be better at getting stoppages, but also easier to hit. Kronk Fury seems like he relies more on using his size to bully his smaller opponents, while Davison Fury used a lot more movement, body and feet and head all, and boxed from the outside more. Almost made me feel like from the perspective of history that there's 5 relevant heavies.

Right, plus Fury was a lot heavier (i.e. bigger, less mobile target) in the 2nd & 3rd fights.

Yeah, his style with SugarHill is a lot more aggressive.

That probably got him in trouble with Ngannou who can match his power & strength.