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  • The top ten Heavyweight Legacies of the fighters from 1999 to current

    Heavyweight Legacies of the fighters from 1999 to current..


    1. Lewis. I must say he has the most ring magazine rated wins for his career. Well, getting KO's two times by one punch inside of five rounds will always be a fly in his ointment, he was otherwise excellent. Beat every opponent he faced ( with re-matches )

    2. W Klitschko. He had the 2nd most ring magazine rated victories on the list. Great let jab and hook . A laser like right. And the 2md fastest pair of hands on the list. He lost a bit past age 39, but that should not be held against him.

    3. V Klitschko. He has the best rounds won to rounds lost in boxing history. Never floored by a punch. And a very high 91.1% KO percentage, He rates 3rd most in ring magazine victores. An injury and a cut are the reasons why he lost as he was ahead in both fights.

    4. Povetkin. The winner of many ranked heavyweights such as Chageav, Chambers, and Byrd,. He also defeated alphabet champions such as Rahman, and defeated raked Whyte. Good enough of a resume for 4th.

    5. Usyk* He is still an active fighter. His two wins over Joshua has 1 or 2 big fights ahead for this undefeated fighter. His standing in in flux with his next best win over Chisrora.

    6. * Fury He is still undefeated, but he lost two fights on most fans score cards ( McDermott and Ngannou who was a 0-0 37 year old boxer. Fury was busted for PED's and is a dirty fighter, being docked five points in five separate fights. His two big wins are over Wilder who has beaten nobody of note and Wallin who was the unranked and Fury was in danger of losing cuts and required 47 stitches, and a 39 year old Wlad.

    7. Chagaev A good alphabet contender, he beat Ruiz and Vlauev. Has a few other solid wins.

    *8. Joshua. Has built a solid resume with wins over Andy Ruiz, Parker and beat a 41 year old Wlad, but he lost to Usk twice and Ruiz once. Still an active fighter. His standing is not set yet.

    9. Sanders. A fast handed Southpaw, and one with top end power he beat a prime Wlad ( which is the #1 wins from 1994-2023 and Alphabet Champion Czyz. Lost an exciting fight to Rahman and got beat down by Vitali .

    10. Ibragimov. A fast moving south with power and a good chin, his only defeat was to Wlad. He also beat a faded Holyfield and an older Briggs, but retired way too soon. His legacy could have been greater.





    So who will make the list to complete for 30 years of boxing 1997- 2027?

    We shall see if anyone does. I think highly of Hrgovic's and Jalolov chances. Will they be champions and how good?
    Last edited by Dr. Z; 11-10-2023, 07:13 AM.

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    How are you going to penalize Fury for being a drug cheat when Povetkin got popped for drugs twice?

    His fight with Wilder went away because of it,

    Povetkin is no different than the Klitchkos who dominated the worst HW era in history.

    And like Wilder or not, he went life or death twice with the legit HW champion of the world in Tyson Fury, who steamrolled Whyte & Chisora & defended the HW belt 10x

    Joshua got KO'd by a morbidly obese underachiever like Andy Ruiz in a cherrypick & in all honesty, none of his wins over rated opponents are better than Wilder's over Ortiz, who was better than all of them before he got too old, or his efforts against Fury.

    Ibragimov beating a prehistoric Evander & Briggs. You're giving him credit for that?

    But don't give Fury & Wilder credit for fighting each other while they're in their primes?
    Last edited by The D3vil; 11-02-2023, 05:46 PM.

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    • #3
      It might not fit in your time frame, but Chris Byrd and James Toney would have to be mentioned.

      Both smaller men who moved up to Heavyweight, and with their skills, won titles.

      I loved watching Chris Byrd peppering the faces of those Heavyweights.

      Long Live Michigan boxing! ..................Rockin'

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      • #4
        Interesting list. Very unique.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
          It might not fit in your time frame, but Chris Byrd and James Toney would have to be mentioned.

          Both smaller men who moved up to Heavyweight, and with their skills, won titles.

          I loved watching Chris Byrd peppering the faces of those Heavyweights.

          Long Live Michigan boxing! ..................Rockin'
          James Toney never won a title at HW and has 1 ranked win there against Holyfield's corpse. He wouldn't be in the Top 20-30 of that time frame probably let alone mentioned amongst the top. If you're going to have Toney amongst that list you'd have to have Larry Donald on there as well who beat the same version of Holyfield.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            James Toney never won a title at HW and has 1 ranked win there against Holyfield's corpse. He wouldn't be in the Top 20-30 of that time frame probably let alone mentioned amongst the top. If you're going to have Toney amongst that list you'd have to have Larry Donald on there as well who beat the same version of Holyfield.
            You're correct, I didn't even think about it really.

            One thing that I do know is this: If I ever need to find you, all that I'd need to do is mention James Toney,

            and wha-la..... it's IronDanHamza in the thread.

            It's like magic I tell ya!




            And Chris Byrd could box his ass off.


            I really liked watching him peppering those Heavyweight faces and then slipping out of there,


            clean. ...............Rockin'
            Last edited by Rockin'; 11-02-2023, 09:40 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

              You're correct, I didn't even think about it really.

              One thing that I do know is this: If I ever need to find you, all that I'd need to do is mention James Toney,

              and wha-la, it's IronDanHamza in the thread.

              And Chris Byrd could box his ass off.


              I really liked watching him pepper those Heavyweight faces...............Rockin'
              I think you'll find the word you're looking for is "voila" but you get an A for effort.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                I think you'll find the word you're looking for is "voila" but you get an A for effort.
                Again you are correct and thank you.

                James could fight like a mfer doe..............Rockin'

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
                  How are you going to penalize Fury for being a drug cheat when Povetkin got popped for drugs twice?

                  His fight with Wilder went away because of it,

                  Povetkin is no different than the Klitchkos who dominated the worst HW era in history.

                  And like Wilder or not, he went life or death twice with the legit HW champion of the world in Tyson Fury, who steamrolled Whyte & Chisora & defended the HW belt 10x

                  Joshua got KO'd by a morbidly obese underachiever like Andy Ruiz in a cherrypick & in all honesty, none of his wins over rated opponents are better than Wilder's over Ortiz, who was better than all of them before he got too old, or his efforts against Fury.

                  Ibragimov beating a prehistoric Evander & Briggs. You're giving him credit for that?

                  But don't give Fury & Wilder credit for fighting each other while they're in their primes?
                  How many top ten Ring ranked fighters did Ortiz beat?
                  How many did he even fight?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
                    How are you going to penalize Fury for being a drug cheat when Povetkin got popped for drugs twice? r
                    @ the D3vil,




                    I do. Just because I did not mention here doesn't mean I do not hold it against him. Povetkin absolutely tested positive. He did as an older fighter, not a young man like Fury did. So the shadow of doubt for Fury is very big.

                    But Povetkin did not duck anyone. He fought many men in their prime that were ranked even as an older fighter.


                    Fury fought much older and older and fatter men...a lot of them. It was his specialty. I think he only fought 3 men ranked in ring magazine top when he fought them as champion. He has several exposed moments in victory vs. unranked guys. Examples are a garden variety English regional fighter named McDermott and blown up and older former cruiser weigt Cunningham. That stuff never happened to Povetkin who fought cleanly unlike Fury who was docked point five times in separate fights! And should have been docked a point in his last fight. See the elbow he landed to the jaw in round six vs the 0-0 fighter.


                    So in summary Povetkin foght better competition, fought without losing points, and accepted various challenges to fight highly ranked men and ducked nobody. That is why I rank him higher.

                    I hope that makes sense.

                    Cheeers.​
                    Last edited by Dr. Z; 11-03-2023, 05:20 AM.
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