Did Sugar Ray Robinson avoid the black murder's row?

[Dr. Z]

Once again Tony McVey,

Do I have you attention now, Ivich?

I am not saying Sugar Ray Robinson did not fight raked contenders! Obviously he did. I am saying he did not fight the elite black talent like that murders row and he did not meet Archie Moore either. The closest back man in ability to them when he fought them was Randy Turpin. He was 1-1 vs him losing the majority of rounds and cut in both fights. Hmmm....

Armstrong like I said was much smaller and used up.

Pat attention to what I say instead of spamming the board.

[Ivich]

Once again Tony McVey,

Do I have you attention now, Ivich?

I am not saying Sugar Ray Robinson did not fight raked contenders! Obviously he did. I am saying he did not fight the elite black talent like that murders row and he did not meet Archie Moore either. The closest back man in ability to them when he fought them was Randy Turpin. He was 1-1 vs him losing the majority of rounds and cut in both fights. Hmmm....

Armstrong like I said was much smaller and used up.

Pat attention to what I say instead of spamming the board.

Armstrong was the number 2 welterweight when they fought and the next year he was no1!
After losing to Robinson Armstrong had a further26 fights winning 21 losing 3 and drawing2
Between 1942 and 1950 Robinson fought 38 middleweights while still able to comfortably make the welterweight limit.
He won 37 of them, losing only to Lamotta. Ten of those fights were against top ten ranked middleweights and in most cases they were ranked above members of the Murderers Row.
Guys like
No 5. Abrams giving him 12 lbs

No6 Lamotta giving him13lbs

No1 Lamotta giving him16 lbs x2

No 10 Dellicurti giving him 8lbs

No 3 Lamotta giving him10lbs

No 10 Dellicurti giving him 9 lbs

No 4 Basora giving him 5lbs

No3 Villemain giving him 9 lbs

No 3 Villemain giving him 4lbs

No 7 Barnes giving him4 lbs

Read this and let it sink in!

From 1940 Marshall was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From 1942 Bolden was top ten ranked at Light heavy..

From1943 Booker was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From1946 Moore and Chase were top ten ranked at Light heavy.

1946 was the year Robinson won the Welterweight title.
When should Robinson have fought Moore? Give us a year?

You don't know what you are talking about!

[Ivich]

Armstrong was the number 2 welterweight when they fought and the next year he was no1!
After losing to Robinson Armstrong had a further26 fights winning 21 losing 3 and drawing2
Between 1942 and 1950 Robinson fought 38 middleweights while still able to comfortably make the welterweight limit.
He won 37 of them, losing only to Lamotta. Ten of those fights were against top ten ranked middleweights and in most cases they were ranked above members of the Murderers Row.
Guys like
No 5. Abrams giving him 12 lbs

No6 Lamotta giving him13lbs

No1 Lamotta giving him16 lbs x2

No 10 Dellicurti giving him 8lbs

No 3 Lamotta giving him10lbs

No 10 Dellicurti giving him 9 lbs

No 4 Basora giving him 5lbs

No3 Villemain giving him 9 lbs

No 3 Villemain giving him 4lbs

No 7 Barnes giving him4 lbs

Read this and let it sink in!

From 1940 Marshall was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From 1942 Bolden was top ten ranked at Light heavy..

From1943 Booker was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From1946 Moore and Chase were top ten ranked at Light heavy.

1946 was the year Robinson won the Welterweight title.
When should Robinson have fought Moore? Give us a year?

You don't know what you are talking about!

Robinson won the welterweight title in1946 weighing 146 1/2lbs

Archie Moore was a top ten ranked Light heavy that year, no 1 in fact!
What year should Robinson have fought Moore?
I'd like an answer to my question!
Are you going to answer my question , or duck it ,like you have ducked so many others?

[travestyny]

Robinson won the welterweight title in1946 weighing 146 1/2lbs

Archie Moore was a top ten ranked Light heavy that year, no 1 in fact!
What year should Robinson have fought Moore?
I'd like an answer to my question!
Are you going to answer my question , or duck it ,like you have ducked so many others?

He's going to duck it like he always does. That coward is not worth your time.

[GhostofDempsey]

Once again Tony McVey,

Do I have you attention now, Ivich?

I am not saying Sugar Ray Robinson did not fight raked contenders! Obviously he did. I am saying he did not fight the elite black talent like that murders row and he did not meet Archie Moore either. The closest back man in ability to them when he fought them was Randy Turpin. He was 1-1 vs him losing the majority of rounds and cut in both fights. Hmmm....

Armstrong like I said was much smaller and used up.

Pat attention to what I say instead of spamming the board.

It’s strange to watch him spam the thread with Robinson’s resume but still can’t bring himself to admit Robinson avoided the black murderers row.

[IronDanHamza]

Robinson avoided Cocoa Kid.

Robinson vs Cocoa Kid was supposed to happen on the 27th April 1949 as a replacement for Gene Burton but Robinson refused stating he wasn't getting paid enough. The fight was postponed to May 24th and Robinson didn't turn up to the arena and the fight never happened.

On top of that, Robinson sparred Cocoa Kid that same year on August 20th and was dropped by Cocoa Kid.


He also famously turned down Charley Burley.

[QueensburyRules]

Robinson avoided Cocoa Kid.

Robinson vs Cocoa Kid was supposed to happen on the 27th April 1929 as a replacement for Gene Burton but Robinson refused stating he wasn't getting paid enough. The fight was postponed to May 24th and Robinson didn't turn up to the arena and the fight never happened.

On top of that, Robinson sparred Cocoa Kid that same year on August 20th and was dropped by Cocoa Kid.


He also famously turned down Charley Burley.

- - End of the day nobody wanted to see him fight black bums, so he got paid very well to beat up white bums that both white and black fans loved.

U be one of them BUMs back in the day save being cursed being a 3rd millennium BUM…

[Ivich]

Robinson avoided Cocoa Kid.

Robinson vs Cocoa Kid was supposed to happen on the 27th April 1929 as a replacement for Gene Burton but Robinson refused stating he wasn't getting paid enough. The fight was postponed to May 24th and Robinson didn't turn up to the arena and the fight never happened.

On top of that, Robinson sparred Cocoa Kid that same year on August 20th and was dropped by Cocoa Kid.


He also famously turned down Charley Burley.

I don't think that would have been much of a draw,but I would have put my money on Cocoa Kid ,him being 15 years old and Robinson only7!
Do you mean 1939?If you do you're wrong again.Robinson did not turn pro until1940!
In1940 Cocoa Kid was a top ten ranked Welterweight and Robinson was 19 years old light weight!
If you meant 1949 you're also wrong, Cocoa Kid died in1948!
The Kid left the ratings in1942 when he was ranked no 4
Number 1 was Robinson.
Number 2 was Armstrong.
Number 3 was Wilson.
Yeah in 42 Robinson ducked the number 4 ranked Kid and instead fought the number 2 and the number 3 contenders!
He also fought the number 7 Jannazzo twice , giving him 8lbs , and the number 8 Zivic giving him 6lbs.
Plus among others.;
Servo
Angott
Rubio
Oh, and another easier opponent, the number 8 ranked middleweight Lamotta ,to whom he conceded 13lbs.
Old Ray sure picked his spots didn't he?

[Ivich]

It’s strange to watch him spam the thread with Robinson’s resume but still can’t bring himself to admit Robinson avoided the black murderers row.

Oh, you have emerged from your hole!
Provide chronological proof he did.Its that simple!
When should he have fought them?

COME ON MAN UP AND GIVE US DATES!

For example, Hamza said he ducked Cocoa Kid,look at my post and see how ridiculous that assertion is! TALK IS CHEAP.

FYI . BASORA & WADE were members of the ROW. Robinson beat them both!

Here is 5 you can rule out...!

From 1940 Marshall was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From 1942 Bolden was top ten ranked at Light heavy..

From1943 Booker was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From1946 Moore was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

From1946 Chase was top ten ranked at Light heavy.

Unless you think Robinson a light weight and welterweight during those years
should have taken top ten ranked light heavies on?
Come on,don't be shy,give us the benefit of the books and research you have done on this!

[Ivich]

He's going to duck it like he always does. That coward is not worth your time.

What have we had recently?
Lennox avoided southpaws.
Monzon avoided tall middleweights and was dropped by Fernandez though no record of this has ever been seen.and the Argentine papers stated it was Monzon who dropped Fernandez!
.Now Robinson avoided Archie Moore.Who was the number1 contender for the lhvy title when Robinson won the welterweight crown!