Greb vs Robinson

[JAB5239]

Yes, that's how the story goes, but was this known at the time... or was it only revealed years after his death?

From what I've read Greb started losing vision when his retina detached against Norfolk in 1921. By late 1922 he was blind in that eye, probably a result of not having it properly taken care of. Greb never wanted anyone to know but one of his handlers, Happy Albacker blurted it out in a bar after the first Tun ey fight when fans were wooing over Greb and saying how he overcame a height, reach and length disadvantage. Albacker blurted out "and blind in one eye too". This is from the biography "The Fearless Harry Greb".

[billeau2]

Wow! lets see? Greb was naturally bigger. Was Greb similar to the great pressure fighters Ray had his epic battles with? I see Greb more like Hank Armstrong. The kicker is, Robinson's best weight was light to welter, ironickly we only hear how great he was at light weight, but we see him at Middle and even light heavy.

If Greb had size and Armstrong type dynamics I think he is too much at middle and above for Robinson. I think Robinson could beat Greb if they could fight at a lower weight.

There is no shame in thinking Ray Robinson wins this... Robinson had so many gifts and could uncork a big punch suddenly, and finish when he smelled blood in the water. I think Jab said that like Tunney Robinson might blose initially and win the next... entirely possible with a boxing mind like Robinson possessed.

[QueensburyRules]

Greb was blind in one eye. They both passed tragically having surgeries, but Harry was BLIND. Do you understand the difference now?

- - Does you need a Doc to explain how accumulated scar tissue affects fighters that result in limited or lose of vision in a fight, ie functionally blind?

If so, find one...

[JAB5239]

- - Does you need a Doc to explain how accumulated scar tissue affects fighters that result in limited or lose of vision in a fight, ie functionally blind?

If so, find one...

The scar tissue was around his eyes, not in the cornea, you baffoon!!

[QueensburyRules]

The scar tissue was around his eyes, not in the cornea, you baffoon!!

- - Perfect for fighters to target for a bloody eye loss of vision stoppage.

Did you ever really box and not know this is boxing 101?

[JAB5239]

- - Perfect for fighters to target for a bloody eye loss of vision stoppage.

Did you ever really box and not know this is boxing 101?

Do you understand there is a difference between actually being blind and the possibility of getting blood in your eye?

[IronDanHamza]

It’s impossible to say.

How can we break down a fight between two men when we have no footage of one of them? You can’t.

We can make assumptions based on eye witnesses but that’s all it would be, an assumption.

[QueensburyRules]

Do you understand there is a difference between actually being blind and the possibility of getting blood in your eye?

- - Functionally there is no difference when swelling and blood reduce your eyesight or someone sprays pepperspray.

Functionally, you seem to lack the logic gene, so I need to treat you more kindly instead of skewering intellect that don't exist.

[JAB5239]

- - Functionally there is no difference when swelling and blood reduce your eyesight or someone sprays pepperspray.

Functionally, you seem to lack the logic gene, so I need to treat you more kindly instead of skewering intellect that don't exist.

Are you as ****** in your day to day life as you are here? There most certainly is a difference from being blind in one eye from the get go compared to there being a possibility (no guarantee) of impaired vision. If you use your logic not only was Greb blind in one eye, he was always at risk of having his vision impaired in the other. Congratulations you have just won the grand prize playing the perpetually slow, dim and ******.

[shawnkemp804]

theres a good chance he overwhelms robinson if we got by the written accounts of what he did and fighters he fought. apparently his chaotic aggressive style nobody could prepare for

Lol you maybe the worst poster here and that is saying something. Besides Rocky Marciano fanboys every other poster here will occasionally make a intelligent comment. But 100 percent of the stuff you type is just utter ******ity. There is no footage of Greb but there is footage of other guys from the era be it Gene Tunney, Jack Dempsey, Sam Langford ect. All of these fighters were crude by modern standards. Logic will state Greb was just as crude. So because some so called boxing "Historian" states Greb could beat guys from more skilled era's doesn't mean anything. It is like Bert Sugar having the top 10 heavyweights of all time and having Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano, Gene Tunney, Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson,. Neither one of these guys are heavyweights by modern standards, some of these guys weren't skilled by modern standards but he has these guys on the list over Lennox Lewis for example.

Greb was a crude fighter and so were every other fighter from that era. Any decent middleweight from the 1960's to today would destroy him.