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  • #31
    I see Ike as an easy winner over Joshua by early KO. Once Tony is wobbled he is essentially out of any fight. He is one of the rare successful fighters of that fragile ilk. But of course that ilk can not stay on top long. That is an ilk Ike likes.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Surely you can elucidate the fights in which AJ shows a lack of stamina...
      Man gassed out against Klitschko & benefited from an early stoppage.

      Man gassed out against Ruiz in the 1st fight.

      Man gassed out against Usyk in both fights.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

        Man gassed out against Klitschko & benefited from an early stoppage.

        Man gassed out against Ruiz in the 1st fight.

        Man gassed out against Usyk in both fights.
        - - Too much laughing poot for you more like.

        Wlad was knock down, drag out fight with both hitting the deck. The stoppage has nothing to do with stamina that both showed in spades in that fight.

        AJ was preconcussed for Fat Andy who was the sole MAN among the light in loafer top contenders, the only one willing to step into the ring for AJ American debut. No shortage of stamina by either, but rather AJ consecutive concussions brought about the stoppage with AJ still standing.

        AJ had Usyk busted up and primed for the stoppage in the first fight, but had his eye popped in the 10th losing vision with fears of losing sight in the popped eye permanently, but toughed it out to the final bell. Stamina fine.

        Boxed even with Usyk in the rematch and finished last round stronger to lose a tight decision.

        t would appear you lack clarity in how fights are waged, thus substituting faery tales for explanations of the events.

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        • #34
          I would pick him to beat AJ, Wilder, Usyk and lose to Fury. I wouldn't be that confident in any of the picks because we didn't get to see enough of Ike, but beating a prime Tua and knocking out Byrd are impressive wins, and those 2 guys had very different styles.

          The 2 guys Ike beat were both shorter than him, and I think he's very hard work for any smaller fighter because he didn't gas out even in hard fights and you needed real power to get his respect. He doesn't give you the time and space that AJ does, he's more like Bowe where he forces his style on you even if it means getting hit. Ike's strength, aggression, work rate, power, chin is why I see him edging Usyk. I rate Usyk highly but one of his strengths is that he often has a late round surge when he takes over the fight and I don't think that would be possible in this matchup. Ike would be able to keep up with him, inflict more damage winning a close decision.

          I see him taking it to Wilder on the inside, and being able to land big punches at mid-range. As long as he didn't give Wilder too much time and space for his money punch he'd win, although always easier said than done vs Wilder, Ike hit hard enough himself that he might win by early KO.

          Fury would be too awkward, too crafty, he'd score points on the outside and wrestle on the inside for a decision win. I don't think AJ has much chance.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Clegg View Post
            I would pick him to beat AJ, Wilder, Usyk and lose to Fury. I wouldn't be that confident in any of the picks because we didn't get to see enough of Ike, but beating a prime Tua and knocking out Byrd are impressive wins, and those 2 guys had very different styles.

            The 2 guys Ike beat were both shorter than him, and I think he's very hard work for any smaller fighter because he didn't gas out even in hard fights and you needed real power to get his respect. He doesn't give you the time and space that AJ does, he's more like Bowe where he forces his style on you even if it means getting hit. Ike's strength, aggression, work rate, power, chin is why I see him edging Usyk. I rate Usyk highly but one of his strengths is that he often has a late round surge when he takes over the fight and I don't think that would be possible in this matchup. Ike would be able to keep up with him, inflict more damage winning a close decision.

            I see him taking it to Wilder on the inside, and being able to land big punches at mid-range. As long as he didn't give Wilder too much time and space for his money punch he'd win, although always easier said than done vs Wilder, Ike hit hard enough himself that he might win by early KO.

            Fury would be too awkward, too crafty, he'd score points on the outside and wrestle on the inside for a decision win. I don't think AJ has much chance.
            Ike vs. Zhang would be a war

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            • #36
              Originally posted by kara View Post

              Ruined him how? He KO'd his next three opponents including Byrd and never fought again due to prison.
              - - Maybe you wasn't keeping up with the flow of things then, but post Tua, Ike started a mental delusional meltdown that near caused a fatality of a young boy and did cause assaultive trauma to a young woman as well as friends and sparmates making him unfit for the larger civilized world. He was AWOL for over a year before coming back against a soft chinned career journeyman, a vast regression of a path to a title shot from his Tua victory.

              Just think a double sized Charlie Z aggressively sucker punching out an odd assortment of folks wherever he went.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Too much laughing poot for you more like.

                Wlad was knock down, drag out fight with both hitting the deck. The stoppage has nothing to do with stamina that both showed in spades in that fight.

                AJ was preconcussed for Fat Andy who was the sole MAN among the light in loafer top contenders, the only one willing to step into the ring for AJ American debut. No shortage of stamina by either, but rather AJ consecutive concussions brought about the stoppage with AJ still standing.

                AJ had Usyk busted up and primed for the stoppage in the first fight, but had his eye popped in the 10th losing vision with fears of losing sight in the popped eye permanently, but toughed it out to the final bell. Stamina fine.

                Boxed even with Usyk in the rematch and finished last round stronger to lose a tight decision.

                t would appear you lack clarity in how fights are waged, thus substituting faery tales for explanations of the events.
                And I see you're obviously an AJ stan if you refuse to see the man obviously gassing out in fights.

                AJ himself admitted that he gassed out against Usyk in the 1st fight

                https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...turday--168438

                Here's his trainer Robert Garcia admitting that he had stamina problems in the rematch against Usyk

                https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...er-boxing-news
                billeau2 billeau2 likes this.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Maybe you wasn't keeping up with the flow of things then, but post Tua, Ike started a mental delusional meltdown that near caused a fatality of a young boy and did cause assaultive trauma to a young woman as well as friends and sparmates making him unfit for the larger civilized world. He was AWOL for over a year before coming back against a soft chinned career journeyman, a vast regression of a path to a title shot from his Tua victory.

                  Just think a double sized Charlie Z aggressively sucker punching out an odd assortment of folks wherever he went.
                  But Charlie is 324-1.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kara View Post

                    But Charlie is 324-1.
                    - - That's why Ike ducked him, but not Deyonce...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - That's why Ike ducked him, but not Deyonce...
                      Last video I saw, someone beat the holy hell out of our beloved Charlie

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