Ike ibeabuchi vs???

[billeau2]

Its hard not to watch... Charlie the train wreck.

[Willie Pep 229]

Let's argue whether Charlie should be in the HOF.

1. Great (unverified) resume.

2.

[Slugfester]

I see some peoples' fantasies are buried so deeply that they can never be excised. I must have some too, but I don't think this is it. It is really hard to beat a sterling chin with incredible stamina who can punch quite hard and is a bit fast too, plus more skilled at his own approach to the game, when you only have a hard punch, like Joshua. What that really means is: Ike is a much better pressurizer than Tony is a boxer. Ike will will likely land the first hard blows, which could be a bus to the subway right there, if Ruiz could do it repeatedly. Ruiz has fine boxing skills and just a pretty good punch, but he really isn't a world beater.He was a Joshua beater

Usyk has high level skills.

Fury might beat Ike. He has certain high level skills. I don't see his jab as one of them. It is not an actual jab. A mock jab. I can't figure why most fans don't see that and why referees don't warn him. When your hand is half open when you jab, you only intended to barely tap and rub, following through with the half open inside of his glove to rub it in the face, in Fury's case.

If Fury is not going to fight a top fighter again because of a ridiculous ego, I wish he would just retire.

Don't ever stay out of the ring too long, gypsy. Just ask Jack Dempsey, just look at the difference between Clay and Ali.

I wonder if anyone has changed their mind about Joyce after his thrashing by a B minus or lower level heavyweight.

Out of the whole group, Wilder might beat everyone on the list, except Fury, and possibly Usyk. Fury could be right that the bomber is the second best heavyweight in the world still.

[Willow The Wisp]

Ike went to prison but he did beat a puncher in Tua going toe to toe with him and a tricky southpaw in Byrd at their best versions! Then he went to prison. Oh what could have been. But despite few fights he was tested.

Oleksandr Usyk is the one we need to see more of. Ibeabuchi actually did a bit more at heavyweight.

[QueensburyRules]

Let's argue whether Charlie should be in the HOF.

1. Great (unverified) resume.

2.

- - His honorable word of course.

[kara]

Its hard not to watch... Charlie the train wreck.

What a crazy life Charlie built for himself. I remember a buddy telling me to watch some news report about Kim K getting a stalker arrested - and IT WAS CHARLIE Z! I was like "I know that guy!"

[billeau2]

What a crazy life Charlie built for himself. I remember a buddy telling me to watch some news report about Kim K getting a stalker arrested - and IT WAS CHARLIE Z! I was like "I know that guy!"

Apparently recently someone finally stomped him good... he was with Busted eye, knots on his head... What amazes me is how long it took. I attribute this to a combination of factors: Alas, people are essentially good at heart. One guy he fought early on had apparently knocked him out and given him a ride home, Wilder taught him a lesson like a father teaches a son, a couple of other skilled guys sort of did likewise. The other thing was how lacking many people are who think they are able, along with Charlie's ability to run when things got confrontational lol. The last one is the one that bothered most of us I suspect: Charlie was a bully.

I had to really look in the mirror and shake my head when he started starching some guy who looked like an English Lit Professor and who had such great sound effects. It was funny but no one should have laughed, including me. Charlie is truly mentally ill and his father particularly enabled him horribly. Only in the age of social media can a guy like Charlie Z become a spectacle.

[QueensburyRules]

Oleksandr Usyk is the one we need to see more of. Ibeabuchi actually did a bit more at heavyweight.

- - Beat up a dozen of bigger, stronger heavies than Byrd. Joyce dwarfs Tua and a better boxer as is AJ.

What, you got into your tranquilizers again?

[JAB5239]

- - Beat up a dozen of bigger, stronger heavies than Byrd. Joyce dwarfs Tua and a better boxer as is AJ.

What, you got into your tranquilizers again?

There is little doubt in my mind Tua would put AJ to sleep. If Andy could do it, Tua certainly could.

[kara]

Apparently recently someone finally stomped him good... he was with Busted eye, knots on his head... What amazes me is how long it took. I attribute this to a combination of factors: Alas, people are essentially good at heart. One guy he fought early on had apparently knocked him out and given him a ride home, Wilder taught him a lesson like a father teaches a son, a couple of other skilled guys sort of did likewise. The other thing was how lacking many people are who think they are able, along with Charlie's ability to run when things got confrontational lol. The last one is the one that bothered most of us I suspect: Charlie was a bully.

I had to really look in the mirror and shake my head when he started starching some guy who looked like an English Lit Professor and who had such great sound effects. It was funny but no one should have laughed, including me. Charlie is truly mentally ill and his father particularly enabled him horribly. Only in the age of social media can a guy like Charlie Z become a spectacle.

I remember being in a store and the subject of boxing came up and I couldnt believe how many people there knew Charlie Z, but had no idea who boxers like Haney were