Was Hopkins An ATG?

[Slugfester]

Does anybody here think Hopkins was an all time great? Does anybody here think he was not?

[JAB5239]

Does anybody here think Hopkins was an all time great? Does anybody here think he was not?

All time great middleweight. He spent 8 years as either the number one middle, tile holder or unified champion. His record for title defenses tops the division. He was boring though.

Greb
Hagler
Monzon
Robinson
Walker
LaMotta
Hopkins
Burley
Fitzsimmons
Cerdan

[Anthony342]

All time great middleweight. He spent 8 years as either the number one middle, tile holder or unified champion. His record for title defenses tops the division. He was boring though.

Greb
Hagler
Monzon
Robinson
Walker
LaMotta
Hopkins
Burley
Fitzsimmons
Cerdan

I thought it was 10 years after he won his first middleweight title.

[Nash out]

I think his loss to the "common man" lost him that status. Nash out

[markusmod]

All time great middleweight. He spent 8 years as either the number one middle, tile holder or unified champion. His record for title defenses tops the division. He was boring though.

Greb
Hagler
Monzon
Robinson
Walker
LaMotta
Hopkins
Burley
Fitzsimmons
Cerdan

Was also impressive that he moved up by two divisions and dominated the top guy at the time at that weight.

[QueensburyRules]

Does anybody here think Hopkins was an all time great? Does anybody here think he was not?

- - Bigger and better squallin' sissy than l'l floydy, and more prolific too.

[Slugfester]

Who would beat him is only part of the equation of ATG. Throw it in with along with comp, longrvity, consistrncy, and anything else that is relevant.


1 Robinson
2 Hagler
3 Greb
4 Monzon
5 Walker
6 Burley
7 Lamotta
8 Cerdan
9 Fitzsimmons
10 Jones
11 Gibbins
12 Langford
13 Ketchel
14 Hearns
15 Fullmer
16 Bevenuti
17 Valdez
18 Nunn
19 Toney
20 Flowers
21 Hopkins

Hopkins almost makes the top 20 in terms of who beats who on my list. I will factor that in.

[IronDanHamza]

Who would beat him is only part of the equation of ATG. Throw it in with along with comp, longrvity, consistrncy, and anything else that is relevant.


1 Robinson
2 Hagler
3 Greb
4 Monzon
5 Walker
6 Burley
7 Lamotta
8 Cerdan
9 Fitzsimmons
10 Jones
11 Gibbins
12 Langford
13 Ketchel
14 Hearns
15 Fullmer
16 Bevenuti
17 Valdez
18 Nunn
19 Toney
20 Flowers
21 Hopkins

Hopkins almost makes the top 20 in terms of who beats who on my list. I will factor that in.

How could you possibly have Nunn, Toney and Valdez above Hopkins at Middleweight?

[Slugfester]

How could you possibly have Nunn, Toney and Valdez above Hopkins at Middleweight?

Make a list. Show me the difference.

[IronDanHamza]

Make a list. Show me the difference.

You're answering a question with a demand.

How could you possibly rank those 3 fighters above Hopkins at Middleweight?

None of the 3 are even close to ATG Middleweights.