Vitali Klitschko, the last great heavyweight

[JakeTheBoxer]

Let me remind you Tyson fury fought Chisora in his last fight. Vitali fought Chisora like 10 years ago. And it was not even a good win for him.

[Ivich]

Let me remind you Tyson fury fought Chisora in his last fight. Vitali fought Chisora like 10 years ago. And it was not even a good win for him.

Let me remind you that Fury had already beaten Chisora by much the same score in2011when Del Boy went in with Vitali,and that he then stopped Chisora in 10rds in 2014.

[IronDanHamza]

The Ring April issue 2011 has the ratings for January 2011 Solis is NOT in the ratings.
The cover has Vitali on it arms folded with the heading ,referring to the upcoming Solis fight,
"Is He About To Be Cut Down To Size?"
Inside is an article by Eric Raskin,remarking that Solis' best wins were
over a 38 years old Monte Barrett ,and a 40 years old Ray Austin.

The Ring August 2011 edition has the end of May rankings,Solis is not ranked.Manny is on the cover.
The issue that will settle this is May , or possibly June .
The front cover of the May edition is Pac Man v Mosley.
The cover of the June edition is a young Canelo. If that helps anyone looking through their collection.
This is a side issue anyway,Jab won the original bet with names to spare!

I probably have those 2011 issues laying around somewhere. I will check later on or tommorow.

[JAB5239]

Prove me wrong, I request a scanned in copy of the issue of Ring Magazine rankings before or the month the Vitali vs. Solis fight. As usual you don't have this. I saw it with my own eyes. You are hoping for something a guy checked for in June, after the fight. END. Now prove me wrong. I am sure that Box Rec is wring too

All you proving here is you can get a thumbs up from a moron / hatter. Congratulations.

• Vitali Klitschko 41-2 (38 KOs) vs. Odlanier Solis 17-0 (12 KOs)
• Confirmed on January 14.
• Vitali Klitschko entered as The Ring Magazine No. 1 heavyweight contender and Solis was the No. 10 contender. Vitali's brother Wladimir was the magazine's heavyweight champion.
• Solis was a 4 to 1 betting underdog.
• At 246.75 lbs., Solis weighed in at the lightest of his professional career to date, and 13.25 lbs. lighter than in his previous bout.
• Klitschko reportedly earned $15 million and Solis received $1.8 million. [2]
• ESPN.com's Dan Rafael reported: The fight began nicely enough with Klitschko using his big jab and size advantage while Solis, with his quick hands, landed a sneaky right hand that got Klitschko's attention. But just as a competitive first round was coming to a close, Klitschko landed a decent right hand to the head. Solis did not appear hurt from the punch, but he stepped back and lost his footing. He went down, and it was quickly clear that Solis was in trouble -- but not because of his head. He had a problem with his right knee and was unsteady as he struggled to get to his feet by pulling himself up as he grabbed on to the ropes. As Solis struggled to move on the bad knee, referee Guadalupe Garcia called off the fight as the opening round was coming to a close. [3]
• A scan revealed tears to Solis' anterior cruciate ligament and external meniscus, as well as cartilage damage in his right knee. [4]
• German media reported that Solis and his team admitted they knew there was a problem with the right knee before the fight but went through with the bout anyway. The Solis camp denied any admission of knowledge of a pre-fight injury and claimed the media reports in Germany falsely quoted a Solis spokesman

Now do you still believe Soils wasn't ring magazine ranked? Well?

Boxrec is notorious for getting things wrong. I'll take Cliffs word over your or boxrec any day.

[Ivich]

I probably have those 2011 issues laying around somewhere. I will check later on or tommorow.

That would be good .

Jab has already won the original bet but ,as predicted the "person," he wagered with will not honour it.

[Dr. Z]

Boxrec is notorious for getting things wrong. I'll take Cliffs word over your or boxrec any day.

You are clutching at straws. What examples did box rec get wrong? Do tell.

[Bundana]

You are clutching at straws. What examples did box rec get wrong? Do tell.

Let's see, if IronDan can clear this up!

[JAB5239]

You are clutching at straws. What examples did box rec get wrong? Do tell.

If I had specific examples I'd be happy to provide them. Boxrec has been found before though to have made mistakes and have incomplete records.

As I said, I'll take Cliffs word over yours or Boxrec.

Still waiting for you to name the ten Ring rated fighters Vits beat.

[Marchegiano]

Why the obsession with Ring ratings?

[Willie Pep 229]

Why the obversion with Ring ratings?

Maybe we needed a little more balance.

We all agree that scantioning body rankings come with political baggage so we tend to (want to) think that the Ring Rankings have more validity.

But truth is, we know in past they have displayed bias, and even took money. So maybe, in our own minds, we need to take them down a notch.

They lost their status as 'the bible of boxing' --> it is interesting that Jab isn't ready to go all-in with Boxrec just yet.

But I suspect Boxrec is the top of the game when it comes to factual information. But its rankings are not so quickly accepted.

Or maybe someone thought they were losing the argument so they switched topics and attacked the source instead of the point.