Is Vitali Klitschko an all-time top-ten heavyweight?

[Willie Pep 229]

Rosco3387 vs. BattlingNelson is epic. You gotta go back to the Ivich vs. Dr. Z wars to find something this epic. Do you all think Boxing message boards are more combative than, say, model rocketry or metal detecting or baseball boards are? Something in our nature maybe? Are we just ****ty people?

I once got banned on a history forum for simply saying Trump's name, and I wasn't even dissing him at the time. You had to walk on eggs everytime you put up a post.

Then again on here I just had a thread closed on me because I offended a 'marble man' the moderator didn't like me challenging. That showed me!

P.S. Yea we're just ****y people. Lol.

[QueensburyRules]

Stevenson wasnt unbeatable even in his prime years.We saw Lomachenko get," old manned" ,out of a decision when he turned pro,who is to say that would not have happened to the Cuban?

- - That any fighter can lose a crooked fight is what U are admitting to now.

Two of the filthiest crooks in boxing, Salido and Tex ref Laurence Cole conspired to mug 1 fight novice Loma all through that fight that included the last round when Cole had to pull off Loma to keep him from KOing Salido who missed weight by something like 6 lbs and was a welter fighting a feather in the ring.

All that fine dining in Europe and U still can't keep from swilling swine slop.

[Rosco3387]

Well I enjoy your posting. Dr. Z as well. Just too much fist clinching In here I recon. That's how it is.

I happen to be a fan of different fighters like everyone else. But when discussing them objectively I can learn to participate on the same level. You get these 'sacred cows' Jones used to be one of the worse... The cult of Roy was such that no one could question his greatness lol. Batts gets nasty in any discussion where the K brothers are cited and Dr Z has is own need to defend certain sacred cows... If you dare to humor them you are a "troll" according to batts lol.

[Rosco3387]

That's the thing, there are no gimmes going from the amateurs to fighting a top level fighter if not still elite anymore. Stevenson was a great amateur. Probably would have made an excellent pro. But there are no guarantees.

yeah... There would have been perhaps some effort to create a rule set that cancelled out any advantages for either man. heck I would have been spellbound to watch an exhibition match between these two!!

One thing is absolutely certain to me, keeping in mind that Castro was a boxing fan! Fidel did not think Stevenson would dominate Ali, or he would have gladly let this match happen lol.

[QueensburyRules]

yeah... There would have been perhaps some effort to create a rule set that cancelled out any advantages for either man. heck I would have been spellbound to watch an exhibition match between these two!!

One thing is absolutely certain to me, keeping in mind that Castro was a boxing fan! Fidel did not think Stevenson would dominate Ali, or he would have gladly let this match happen lol.

- - Didn't trust dirty American refs, judges, and commishes just like today.

At any rate, Savon was a infinitely better pro prospect than Stevenson with much more power, a who's who collection of Top Heavy Pro scalps.

[JAB5239]

yeah... There would have been perhaps some effort to create a rule set that cancelled out any advantages for either man. heck I would have been spellbound to watch an exhibition match between these two!!

One thing is absolutely certain to me, keeping in mind that Castro was a boxing fan! Fidel did not think Stevenson would dominate Ali, or he would have gladly let this match happen lol.

Very true. The Kremlin had no problem sending Drago to fight Rocky. Now that is confidence!!

[Rosco3387]

- - Didn't trust dirty American refs, judges, and commishes just like today.

At any rate, Savon was a infinitely better pro prospect than Stevenson with much more power, a who's who collection of Top Heavy Pro scalps.

When Savon was fighting there was more connection between the Cubans and the pro ranks. Some people do think Savon was even better, I am not one of them.

[Ivich]

- - That any fighter can lose a crooked fight is what U are admitting to now.

Two of the filthiest crooks in boxing, Salido and Tex ref Laurence Cole conspired to mug 1 fight novice Loma all through that fight that included the last round when Cole had to pull off Loma to keep him from KOing Salido who missed weight by something like 6 lbs and was a welter fighting a feather in the ring.

All that fine dining in Europe and U still can't keep from swilling swine slop.

What a pathetic little troll you are.

Do try and get yourself a life before it's too late.

Who knows you might even achieve some semblance of credibility if you could only focus on posting content worth reading,instead of these silly little juvenile,and puerile asides?

We live in hope.

NB Salido was 3 lbs over weight. He then rehydrated and was 11lbs the heavier ,man on fight night.

[Haka]

- - That any fighter can lose a crooked fight is what U are admitting to now.

Two of the filthiest crooks in boxing, Salido and Tex ref Laurence Cole conspired to mug 1 fight novice Loma all through that fight that included the last round when Cole had to pull off Loma to keep him from KOing Salido who missed weight by something like 6 lbs and was a welter fighting a feather in the ring.

All that fine dining in Europe and U still can't keep from swilling swine slop.

Yes, this is what actually happened.

[Ivich]

Yes, this is what actually happened.

Salido fought a cynically dirty fight and was allowed to do so by a criminally incompetent referee.

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