Is Vitali Klitschko an all-time top-ten heavyweight?

[Rosco3387]

Wut? Srsly? You don’t understand?

let me try again then: All things equal. Is the best fighter out of 10 better than the best fighter out of 1000? Very simple question.

Context being? Just random? As a random statement it means nothing.

[Rosco3387]

He wasn’t out of shape, so he wasn’t crazy. He had a full camp!

You have eyes right? LOOK at Lewis for that fight. Lol. Look at who he was preparing to fight...

[QueensburyRules]

- - Nice to see the Vit emasculates forming a soprano chorus. Any CDs or youtube links?

[BattlingNelson]

Roscoe's failure to answer a simple question tells us all we need to know.

[Dr. Z]

Roscoe's failure to answer a simple question tells us all we need to know.

I agree and don't pay much attention to him. For all the readers out there I can do a similar thread on another heavyweight form 1920-2022 see if he belongs as a top ten all time great.

[Willow The Wisp]

Yeah I'm a newbie I boxed off and on for only 20 years and have followed the sport for only 64 years since I saw my first bout at the age of 9.
If there's anything I need to know ,I'll be sure to come to you ,our resident troll.
I'm sure you will give me the real insider info.

Opponents added weight to fight Vitali? Did they?

Sanders was heavier in all his subsequent fights.

Adamek was heavier in all his next 14 bouts.

Charr added 14lbs for his next fight AFTER Vitali and was only lighter in 3 of his previous 21 fights.

Chisora was17 lbs lighter for Vitali than he had been.

Do you know what is really astonishing?
That a complete ignoramus as far as boxing is concerned like yourself, actually thinks he has some knowledge and is impressing the forum with this pidgin, baby talk nonsense.It's mind blowing!

Lol!.....Brutal. and, ya, kinda true. But if he gets under your skin, then he wins (sort of).

[Willow The Wisp]

So many of these contested opionion threads shave down to the question of just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and that's OK because posters of merit dig in for the research in defense of their convictions, and through this we all get to read some cool stuff. I read here way more than I post. Here's hoping the select bunch reads when I do. It's fair to say that a fight between Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitschko in either of their respective primes is going to be a real fight. Two big, powerful icons of the modern era. If one were slightly under prepared, pre prime or past prime; we could still expect a heck of a fight, yes????

So here's where I drop the peacemaker crap....

To shoehorn Vitali Klitschko into a top 10 spot, either All-Time modern era or just Half the Modern era to 1960 as per my prior post, you've gotta remember that it's a TWO FOR ONE SPECIAL..........Because: WLADAMIR > VITALI!!!!!

Because Vitali may be greater in our collective OPINION but Wladamir has simply accomplished two or three times more IN THE BOOKS!

Therefore, Know that for Vitali to park his ass in anyone's top 10 you need two parking spots.

[BattlingNelson]

So many of these contested opionion threads shave down to the question of just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and that's OK because posters of merit dig in for the research in defense of their convictions, and through this we all get to read some cool stuff. I read here way more than I post. Here's hoping the select bunch reads when I do. It's fair to say that a fight between Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitschko in either of their respective primes is going to be a real fight. Two big, powerful icons of the modern era. If one were slightly under prepared, pre prime or past prime; we could still expect a heck of a fight, yes????

So here's where I drop the peacemaker crap....

To shoehorn Vitali Klitschko into a top 10 spot, either All-Time modern era or just Half the Modern era to 1960 as per my prior post, you've gotta remember that it's a TWO FOR ONE SPECIAL..........Because: WLADAMIR > VITALI!!!!!

Because Vitali may be greater in our collective OPINION but Wladamir has simply accomplished two or three times more IN THE BOOKS!

Therefore, Know that for Vitali to park his ass in anyone's top 10 you need two parking spots.

Fwiw I think Wlad is top 10 all-time. Vitali is not. That's based on resume which to me is how you judge all-time status. If you happen to be one who judges all-time status by how a fighter fares in fantasy fights, then I have no problem with people ranking Vitali very high and also higher then Wlad. That's just not how I normally measure it.

[Willow The Wisp]

Fwiw I think Wlad is top 10 all-time. Vitali is not. That's based on resume which to me is how you judge all-time status. If you happen to be one who judges all-time status by how a fighter fares in fantasy fights, then I have no problem with people ranking Vitali very high and also higher then Wlad. That's just not how I normally measure it.

I agree. Fun to judge untapped potential like Viktor Mikhailov, Ike Ibeabuchi, Ed Sanders, Lute McCarty, Felix Savon, ....Teófilo Stevenson.....

[QueensburyRules]

I agree. Fun to judge untapped potential like Viktor Mikhailov, Ike Ibeabuchi, Ed Sanders, Lute McCarty, Felix Savon, ....Teófilo Stevenson.....

- - Castro denied Teo an easy win over Ali, ie the Ali that Leon ended up beating up. Ali should've been retired after his Wepner disaster where he took 2 straight fights of unparalleled punishment.