Is Vitali Klitschko an all-time top-ten heavyweight?

[Rosco3387]

Roscoe's failure to answer a simple question tells us all we need to know.

its amusing how upset you are. I tried to answer your question but it makes no sense, its like you get butthurt when someone has an adverse opinion about either Klitsko brother. You also have no sense of humor... Ultimately you are an ahole.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - Castro denied Teo an easy win over Ali, ie the Ali that Leon ended up beating up. Ali should've been retired after his Wepner disaster where he took 2 straight fights of unparalleled punishment.

Before you get jumped on (or your bait gets a nibble) for Ali sacrilege- I agree. In the span between 72' and 75' that would have been a 'worlds collide' epic. Mammoth. By the time they got talking seriously about making it happen (Fidel was a crazy boxing fan), it was too late. Don't know of any 'Wepner disaster', but Muhammad Ali sure could have done without anything after Manila- For Certain.

[JAB5239]

- - Castro denied Teo an easy win over Ali, ie the Ali that Leon ended up beating up. Ali should've been retired after his Wepner disaster where he took 2 straight fights of unparalleled punishment.

There are no easy wins transitioning from an amateur style against an all time great. You have no idea if Stevenson could go ten rounds let alone fifteen. Cuban heavyweights don't really have a proven track record as professionals, do they? So claiming he was denied an "easy" win over Ali really holds no weight. It's just an unfounded opinion.

[Rosco3387]

I agree and don't pay much attention to him. For all the readers out there I can do a similar thread on another heavyweight form 1920-2022 see if he belongs as a top ten all time great.

You basically respond to virtually all my posts and don't pay much attention to me? Lol. Ok. Sure thing captain. I don't care either way... It is fine by me if you did ignore me... Feel free to do so.

[Rosco3387]

- - Castro denied Teo an easy win over Ali, ie the Ali that Leon ended up beating up. Ali should've been retired after his Wepner disaster where he took 2 straight fights of unparalleled punishment.

Teo was phenominal and had enough natural talent to be a threat to any fighter given some time to train/ prepare.

[Willow The Wisp]

You basically respond to virtually all my posts and don't pay much attention to me? Lol. Ok. Sure thing captain. I don't care either way... It is fine by me if you did ignore me... Feel free to do so.

Well I enjoy your posting. Dr. Z as well. Just too much fist clinching In here I recon. That's how it is.

[JAB5239]

Well I enjoy your posting. Dr. Z as well. Just too much fist clinching In here I recon. That's how it is.

We all want to be right. Sometimes it gets a little more tense than it should though. Both those guys have plenty to offer, even if they don't agree. None of us are going to agree on everything.

[Ivich]

Before you get jumped on (or your bait gets a nibble) for Ali sacrilege- I agree. In the span between 72' and 75' that would have been a 'worlds collide' epic. Mammoth. By the time they got talking seriously about making it happen (Fidel was a crazy boxing fan), it was too late. Don't know of any 'Wepner disaster', but Muhammad Ali sure could have done without anything after Manila- For Certain.

Stevenson wasnt unbeatable even in his prime years.We saw Lomachenko get," old manned" ,out of a decision when he turned pro,who is to say that would not have happened to the Cuban?

[JAB5239]

Stevenson wasnt unbeatable even in his prime years.We saw Lomachenko get," old manned" ,out of a decision when he turned pro,who is to say that would not have happened to the Cuban?

That's the thing, there are no gimmes going from the amateurs to fighting a top level fighter if not still elite anymore. Stevenson was a great amateur. Probably would have made an excellent pro. But there are no guarantees.

[Willow The Wisp]

Rosco3387 vs. BattlingNelson is epic. You gotta go back to the Ivich vs. Dr. Z wars to find something this epic. Do you all think Boxing message boards are more combative than, say, model rocketry or metal detecting or baseball boards are? Something in our nature maybe? Are we just ****ty people?