Beterbiev vs Marciano

[elfag]

- - Gonna let Jabberwokey or Ivichwokey take up that loooser's bet

go look up his record. He fought some steel plant worker with a loosing record in his 35th pro fight. The bum lost 5 fights in a row. Beterbiev would be cruicified if he fought someone like that. Beterbiev was fighting far better competition after 5 fights than Marciano was at almost 40 fights.

[JAB5239]

go look up his record. He fought some steel plant worker with a loosing record in his 35th pro fight. The bum lost 5 fights in a row. Beterbiev would be cruicified if he fought someone like that. Beterbiev was fighting far better competition after 5 fights than Marciano was at almost 40 fights.

Beterbiev had 300 amateur fights to Marciano's 12. Not uncommon for fighters from that era to build there pro careers up and gain that experience. Bill Conn had no amateur fights, started his pro career at 7-6 and still went on to become one of the greatest lightheavyweights and p4p fighters ever. Marciano averaged around 9 professional fights a year for his career. Beterbiev averages 2. Professional experience counts as it is a different game than amateur fighting. And while Beterbiev can bang, he is not as well rounded as Walcott, Charles, Moore or even an old Joe Louis.

[Anthony342]

Beterbiev had 300 amateur fights to Marciano's 12. Not uncommon for fighters from that era to build there pro careers up and gain that experience. Bill Conn had no amateur fights, started his pro career at 7-6 and still went on to become one of the greatest lightheavyweights and p4p fighters ever. Marciano averaged around 9 professional fights a year for his career. Beterbiev averages 2. Professional experience counts as it is a different game than amateur fighting. And while Beterbiev can bang, he is not as well rounded as Walcott, Charles, Moore or even an old Joe Louis.

Exactly. These kids don't understand how these different eras work. They got experience in the pros back then instead of the amateurs. That's why losses didn't matter as much, especially early on, in non title fights and against lesser opponents.

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[them_apples]

Exactly. These kids don't understand how these different eras work. They got experience in the pros back then instead of the amateurs. That's why losses didn't matter as much, especially early on, in non title fights and against lesser opponents.

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And also the structure of boxing was different. Marketing wasn’t in full bloom within the business model. Fighters actually fought with intention of getting title shots. They would hone their skills through fighting. Losses happened because fighters took bigger risks sometimes in order to learn. The 0 was created when they figured out you can sell undefeated records to plebs so easily.

[them_apples]

Beterbiev had 300 amateur fights to Marciano's 12. Not uncommon for fighters from that era to build there pro careers up and gain that experience. Bill Conn had no amateur fights, started his pro career at 7-6 and still went on to become one of the greatest lightheavyweights and p4p fighters ever. Marciano averaged around 9 professional fights a year for his career. Beterbiev averages 2. Professional experience counts as it is a different game than amateur fighting. And while Beterbiev can bang, he is not as well rounded as Walcott, Charles, Moore or even an old Joe Louis.

i couldn’t imagine a world where beterbiev beats a Charles or Moore. With Rocky, due to his appearance, everyone seems to have a chance against him. The amount of times yesterday and today Marciano appears beatable by everyone. Walcott, Moore and Charles all figured him easy work and all ended up the same way: damaged and retired by the same man, a man even smaller and lighter than themselves in some fights.

weight or not, Beterbieve has never taken shots like the ones Marciano can throw. So he would figure out real quick if his 190 lbs is a legitimate 190 lbs.

[CasperUK]

Marciano is vastly over rated and over romanticised as some all-conquering monster. The truth is that he was a chubby 5ft10 guy who fought a load of over the hill, part timer boxers and hopless contenders with some decent boxers in between.

Beterbiev has access to better training, science and nutrition. He also has incredible pedigree; 295-5 as an amateur and a 2 x Olympian in the MODERN era.

In comparison, Marciano didn't even take boxing seriously until the age of 25 when he started feasting on a bunch of palookas.

Beterbiev mauls him to an ugly late TKO. Marciano's toughness keeps him in the game but eventually he would be overwhelmed.

[Willie Pep 229]

Marciano is vastly over rated and over romanticised as some all-conquering monster. The truth is that he was a chubby 5ft10 guy who fought a load of over the hill, part timer boxers and hopless contenders with some decent boxers in between.

Beterbiev has access to better training, science and nutrition. He also has incredible pedigree; 295-5 as an amateur and a 2 x Olympian in the MODERN era.

In comparison, Marciano didn't even take boxing seriously until the age of 25 when he started feasting on a bunch of palookas.

Beterbiev mauls him to an ugly late TKO. Marciano's toughness keeps him in the game but eventually he would be overwhelmed.

Your point would hold so much more credibility if you didn't speak in such silly hyperbole.

[QueensburyRules]

Your point would hold so much more credibility if you didn't speak in such silly hyperbole.

- - Casper probably channeling himself into Rocky...

[them_apples]

Marciano is vastly over rated and over romanticised as some all-conquering monster. The truth is that he was a chubby 5ft10 guy who fought a load of over the hill, part timer boxers and hopless contenders with some decent boxers in between.

Beterbiev has access to better training, science and nutrition. He also has incredible pedigree; 295-5 as an amateur and a 2 x Olympian in the MODERN era.

In comparison, Marciano didn't even take boxing seriously until the age of 25 when he started feasting on a bunch of palookas.

Beterbiev mauls him to an ugly late TKO. Marciano's toughness keeps him in the game but eventually he would be overwhelmed.

Bolded doesn't mean jack ****, we saw Mccallum knock out Donald Curry who was 400-4 in the ams. Marciano stopped Moore who had 200+ pro fights. As usual, Marciano is being written off by a casual. Just like he was back in the 50's!

Access to better training? this doesn't even need a response. As if Marciano needs better conditioning. Or there is some magical method modern boxers use. Ever been to a boxing gym lately? What are they doing there thats so special? shooting TRT into their buttcheeks? please tell me. What modern methods are going to give him such an advantage that it shows up on fight night? what type of diet is going to give him an advantage in a fight? people are deluded it seems, all around the world lol.

I'd pick Marciano by knockout in 5 rounds if the fight was made this year. He'd knock Usyk out as well. Charles, Moorer and Walcott were all better than Usyk, even when he fought them.

[Bundana]

Bolded doesn't mean jack ****, we saw Mccallum knock out Donald Curry who was 400-4 in the ams. Marciano stopped Moore who had 200+ pro fights. As usual, Marciano is being written off by a casual. Just like he was back in the 50's!

Access to better training? this doesn't even need a response. As if Marciano needs better conditioning. Or there is some magical method modern boxers use. Ever been to a boxing gym lately? What are they doing there thats so special? shooting TRT into their buttcheeks? please tell me. What modern methods are going to give him such an advantage that it shows up on fight night? what type of diet is going to give him an advantage in a fight? people are deluded it seems, all around the world lol.

I'd pick Marciano by knockout in 5 rounds if the fight was made this year. He'd knock Usyk out as well. Charles, Moorer and Walcott were all better than Usyk, even when he fought them.

So the versions of Charles, Moore and Walcott that Marciano fought - they would all beat Usyk! Is that what you're saying?