Fury is a Fighting Man, as it turns out.

[Anthony342]

AJ s team have signed twice.Fury moves the gaol posts every day.

Why? What is Fury so afraid of?

[QueensburyRules]

Like I said, no one has beaten him for those belts inside a ring.

He beat Klitschko to take the straps and has remained undefeated since.

- - Drunktard too scared to appear inside a public ring for 3 years.

[ShoulderRoll]

Fury is champion. Wish he wasn't. Not professional enough for my liking.

He really needs to beat someone other than Wilder. I agree with Queenie, Usyk is the un crowned champion in most people's mind. Fury's credibility slips further away with each passing day.

Fury beat Wilder and ended the Wladimir Klitschko era. He is really the lineal champion as far as the Klitschko lineage is concerned.

And I think most people view him as such.

[Ivich]

Why? What is Fury so afraid of?

Search me ,but why is he mentioning alternative fights with either Charr or Chisora.
Each day he contradicts himself and heaps insults on AJ.
Joshua has now walked away, can you blame him?

[ShoulderRoll]

George Warren Faults Hearn, Matchroom For Fury-Joshua Talks Fizzling


"We made quite extensive requests over to their side, verbally, over email, over text messages, chasing them down, to try and engage with us in quicker fashion last week. And it fell down because quite frankly we got to a point with them where communication coming back from them and the substance of that communication was lacking.

“I would say there was no ambition on their side to help me try and keep the thing goin. That’s what it felt like by the end of it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-w...zzling--169506

[Ivich]

George Warren Faults Hearn, Matchroom For Fury-Joshua Talks Fizzling


"We made quite extensive requests over to their side, verbally, over email, over text messages, chasing them down, to try and engage with us in quicker fashion last week. And it fell down because quite frankly we got to a point with them where communication coming back from them and the substance of that communication was lacking.

“I would say there was no ambition on their side to help me try and keep the thing goin. That’s what it felt like by the end of it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-w...zzling--169506

George Warren is a puppet,Frank makes the decisions for that company and Fury is ,and always has been , a loose cannon.

[ShoulderRoll]

George Warren is a puppet,Frank makes the decisions for that company and Fury is ,and always has been , a loose cannon.

I'm just reporting the latest update.

Seems obvious to me that the Joshua side didn't really want it, though.


“Quite quickly after that, Eddie and I spoke in the night. It was left that he was gonna email me something over to the extent of dealing with what they declared as their final issue related to the way that we drafted the contracts, which was related to our position of having final say. On that call I suggested we insert some type of language dealing with having an arbitrator, a mediator, in the place to settle disputes. We followed that up on Thursday, inviting them to engage with us on that last, I think, real remaining outstanding point at the top line. And that email didn’t get responded to.

“I tried to call Eddie a couple of times on Thursday, he didn’t answer my calls, didn’t get back to me. I briefly spoke to [Joshua manager] Freddie Cunningham about half past eight on Thursday. It was left that he was gonna come back to me and let me know their position on how quickly they wanted to move on this thing. I chased them up with a phone call, didn’t get a return, didn’t hear back from them on the text that I sent them.

“And the last bit of communication was myself and [CEO] Frank Smith. We spoke on Friday relating to a different fight that we’re looking to try and finish and finalize with Matchroom. On that call we briefly touched on it. He said he had been out of the loop, he had been travelling with work, and that he would catch up with his side and see if there was anything they could do in the short term to keep the conversations going. I didn’t hear back. So my assumption is they, as a group, decided for whatever reason that they didn’t want to engage last week to try and get this thing over the line, which is disappointing.”

[Willow The Wisp]

Search me ,but why is he mentioning alternative fights with either Charr or Chisora.
Each day he contradicts himself and heaps insults on AJ.
Joshua has now walked away, can you blame him?

I can. If he had a contract that paid him more than the next one someone shoves under his nose, he should've signed it. Anyway, the media filtered ramblings of fighters doesn't reflect the actual negotiations, which we all know. The once heir to the throne is in tatters. He needs to do something. Accepting that contract would have shown the kind of balls that fans see him now as lacking.

[Willow The Wisp]

Fury beat Wilder and ended the Wladimir Klitschko era. He is really the lineal champion as far as the Klitschko lineage is concerned.

And I think most people view him as such.

That's the story. You got it. Let me restate it with you, so that all are clear about this.

Tyson Fury is the Heavyweight Champion of the World. There aren't two of those. Only one.
There are men in other combat sports, good fighter-athletes too, who call themselves that; but theirs is a meaningless title. No history behind it. Just a promoter's whim. A made up thing. Nothing.
There are "Title Claimants" who hold belts that are essentially sold to boxing promotional companies for something called a "sanctioning fee". There are more than half a dozen out there that are widely known about, and another half a dozen that aren't. Sadly, in the other weight classes the world title lineage is so confused that it's breadcrumbs are long ago lost. Some of the newer "in-between" weight divisions where actually born split up.

None of this applies to the Heavyweights, the "Open Class" of fighting. The alpha class.

The lineage of the alpha class in Boxing is as crystal clear as anything in world history is. Completely above reproach and beyond debate. It is one of the most significant things that separates boxing from the playground and country club sports, and makes it so much more historically significant. A singular title drawn at the ideal place between a children's game and a battlefield murder, established as the perfect place by the unimpeachable voice of recorded global history, dating back more than 5,000 years.
What boxing "is" has a clear definition across all cultues, timeframes and rules revisions as well; from the ancient world to the modern. A thumbnail sketch of boxing history 101 informs that the very first recognized world heavyweight boxing champion was named Forvanta.
The first "Undisputed" world's Heavyweight boxing champion, however, was Onomastos of Smyrma, who won undisputed recognition of the world championship at the 23rd Olympiad, 688 BC, and held the title 688-676 BC.
Centuries later, following hundreds of years of boxing existing throughout most of the world in some iteration falling within the definable range of "boxing", boxing became increasingly and eventually fashionable in England, by now the defacto leader of the world; and beginning in 1719, James Figg defeated the primary championship claimants across the country in Timothy Buck, Tom Stokes, Bill Flanders, Christopher Clarkson and Ned Sutton, establishing an undisputed title. Later, in 1733 when traditional Venetian boxing's chosen representative lost to Figg student Bob Whitaker, and in 1751 when French champion Jean Petit was defeated by Jack Slack, Figg's championship had truly become a World's Championship.
This is the Title held today by Mr. Tyson Fury, the self proclaimed "Gypsy King", who is the one and only holder of this very same title.
Due to retirements, there have been a modest number of breaks in the title lineage; but all have been mended to the satisfaction of the experts in real time, and all reconnections are unassailable by today's hobbyists, revisionists and malcontents spoiling for a chance to feel important.
Fury stands above the military commanders who rely on others to do the difficult bits for them. He is above the "heroes" of field games designed for children before they come of age, ready for real labor, and above the stars of new combat sports, where often times it seems the contests are won by meeting the objective of placing both the right and the left testicle into the corresponding eye sockets of the hapless opponents, to the thrill and excitement of the fans who go in for this kind of thing.

You don't have to like it; but Tyson Fury is the only Heavyweight Champion of the World, and you have to accept that reality, because you (meaning us) do not get to decide.

[Willie Pep 229]

George Warren Faults Hearn, Matchroom For Fury-Joshua Talks Fizzling


"We made quite extensive requests over to their side, verbally, over email, over text messages, chasing them down, to try and engage with us in quicker fashion last week. And it fell down because quite frankly we got to a point with them where communication coming back from them and the substance of that communication was lacking.

“I would say there was no ambition on their side to help me try and keep the thing goin. That’s what it felt like by the end of it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-w...zzling--169506

How many times have you guys said it was Dempsey's responsibility to make the Wills fight happen regardless of what Kearns and Rickard were up to?

Why don't you hold Fury to the same standard you set for Dempsey?