Fury is a Fighting Man, as it turns out.

[Ivich]

Joshua's team is scared. They don't want another loss.



Arum on Fury-Joshua: Hearn is Stalling Everything, He Doesn't Want Fight To Happen
https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-...happen--169448

AJ s team have signed twice.Fury moves the gaol posts every day.

[Willie Pep 229]

I would say anyone who signs a contract to fight Fury needs to insert a serious penalty clause in case he backs out. Too unstable a history to risk tying up four to eight months of one's career hoping Fury will follow through.

[QueensburyRules]

I would say anyone who signs a contract to fight Fury needs to insert a serious penalty clause in case he backs out. Too unstable a history to risk tying up four to eight months of one's career hoping Fury will follow through.

- - Make Fury MTK team put up a surety bond of $10 mil once the fight is on. He forfeits 10 mil if he can't make scratch.

And if he cain't make scratch, gonna be a lotta lopped horse heads in his bed as a preview.

[Willow The Wisp]

Problem for Joshua looks about like this, as 2022 draws to an end..........

World Champion – Tyson Fury, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom

1. Oleksandr Usyk, Shypyntsi, Ukraine
2. Deontay Wilder, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA
3. Joe Joyce, Putney, London, United Kingdom
4. Andy Ruiz Jr., Imperial, California, USA
5. Anthony Joshua, Watford, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
6. Luis Ortiz, Camaguey, Cuba
7. Dillian Whyte, Brixton, London, United Kingdom
8. Derrick Chisora, Finchley, London, United Kingdom
9. Joseph Parker, South Auckland, New Zealand
10. Robert Helenius, Mariehamn, Finland
11. Michael Hunter, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
12. Martin Bakole, Kananga, ********ic Republic Of The Congo
13. Otto Wallin, Sundsvall, Sweden
14. Frank Sanchez, Guantanamo, Cuba
15. Kubrat Pulev, Sofia, Bulgaria
16. Daniel Dubois, Greenwich, London, United Kingdom
17. Filip Hrgovic, Zagreb, Croatia
18. Zhilei Zhang, Zhoukou, China
19. Arslanbek Makhmudov, Mozdok, Russia
20. Tony Yoka, Paris, France

[QueensburyRules]

Problem for Joshua looks about like this, as 2022 draws to an end..........

World Champion – Tyson Fury, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom

1. Oleksandr Usyk, Shypyntsi, Ukraine
2. Deontay Wilder, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA
3. Joe Joyce, Putney, London, United Kingdom
4. Andy Ruiz Jr., Imperial, California, USA
5. Anthony Joshua, Watford, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
6. Luis Ortiz, Camaguey, Cuba
7. Dillian Whyte, Brixton, London, United Kingdom
8. Derrick Chisora, Finchley, London, United Kingdom
9. Joseph Parker, South Auckland, New Zealand
10. Robert Helenius, Mariehamn, Finland
11. Michael Hunter, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
12. Martin Bakole, Kananga, ********ic Republic Of The Congo
13. Otto Wallin, Sundsvall, Sweden
14. Frank Sanchez, Guantanamo, Cuba
15. Kubrat Pulev, Sofia, Bulgaria
16. Daniel Dubois, Greenwich, London, United Kingdom
17. Filip Hrgovic, Zagreb, Croatia
18. Zhilei Zhang, Zhoukou, China
19. Arslanbek Makhmudov, Mozdok, Russia
20. Tony Yoka, Paris, France

- - Boxrec owned by a Brit don't even rank SissyBoyBlubber.

We got some real faery tales goin' in this thread. AJ need a ranked fighter.

[QueensburyRules]

I have it stuck in my brain that Tyson Fury is a great champion, the only REAL heavyweight champion, but has done comparatively little during his interrupted reign beating back the roster of revolving ranked challengers. But.....Current WBC top 15. Fury is 6-0-1, career wide.
Maybe he's not as "contender work lazy" as folks think.

Usyk, Ruiz and Joshua have been passing the WBA, IBF and WBO....IBO...Whatever belts around for a few years. Against the Current top 15 from each of those en******, how have those "Champions" been keeping up with their own title defending obligations?

..................WBA........IBF........WBO....... .IBO
Usyk........3-0-0.........2-0-0.....3-0-0.......4-0-0
Ruiz.........1-1-0.........2-2-0.....2-2-0.......2-2-0
Joshua....0-2-0.........3-2-0.....1-2-0.......2-2-0


Man Oh' man.....facts can really do a number on your perspective.

.....Once they are spelled out.

- - Stats ain't spelling that explains your massive FAIL.

AJ fought for 37 total titles. I didn't include the ****** Ring Belt because ever since Oscar went fishnet they been circling the drain. Only reason he ain't sold it off for peanuts that he bought it for is because Canelo kept him propped up until he ditched Fishnets, but by then MTK money had been been propping him for several years starting with Blubber Boy.

AJ net title record is 25-12,

IBF 9-3
WBA 6-3
IBO 6-2
WBO 4-3

It was AJ who unified and it was AJ who kept the titles unified which is purt impossible these days with all the strippages. Lewie never defended his unified title stripped of all save the WBC and he retired the day before they were gonna strip him, is distinctly down in title totals compared to to AJ, nor did Blubber Boy defend a single unified title that he inherited from Wlad. In fact, he stripped of ever title he ever owned save the low hanging fruit of Mauricio who was last seen cozying up to to MTK just before they was busted bigtime. Now Fwankie and Blubber Boy banned from the US and other countries, stuck in the UK.

Boxrec is Brit owned and don't even rank him, and how many x he retire this year of his single fight where he had to eat the Shyte of Whyte whom Povetkin had KOed for a 50 count?

His boxing fans are circling the drain with him endlessly because they all been clogging up the works that was never built to flush such a sheer mass as that.

[ShoulderRoll]

Fury took the belts off Klitschko and to this day still hasn't been beaten for them inside a ring.

[QueensburyRules]

Fury took the belts off Klitschko and to this day still hasn't been beaten for them inside a ring.

- - Blubber was stripped of all his unified belts and served a suspension for steroid use. Ducked the Wlad rematch and went on a 3 year coke and pie binge, so nobody save fellow druntards in a bar can fight him.

[ShoulderRoll]

- - Blubber was stripped of all his unified belts and served a suspension for steroid use. Ducked the Wlad rematch and went on a 3 year coke and pie binge, so nobody save fellow druntards in a bar can fight him.

Like I said, no one has beaten him for those belts inside a ring.

He beat Klitschko to take the straps and has remained undefeated since.

[Willie Pep 229]

IMHO talking belts gives the scantioning bodies credibility and that's bad for boxing.

Even demeaning the scantioning body belts gives them credibility by keeping them in the conversation.

It's like Ancient Aliens. Disproving them only plays into their hands. It keeps the conversation alive.

I don't like using the term 'undisputed' because it indirectly gives them credibility by acknowledging their existence.

I say don't mention the belts either way; the greatest form of disrespect is indifference.

I say never talk belts.

Fury is champion. Wish he wasn't. Not professional enough for my liking.

He really needs to beat someone other than Wilder. I agree with Queenie, Usyk is the un crowned champion in most people's mind. Fury's credibility slips further away with each passing day.