I am no Leonard fan, but I don't see GGG beating Leonard at all. He wouldn't know where Leonard was half the time. If the speed disparity between opponents is great enough, I have noticed the slow guy seldom wins. GGG would always find himself a step behind, unable to land much of anything, Leonard is one of the greatest ring generals. A great ring general knows at all times how much he has to do to win on the scorecards. GGG does not have that talent, as is apparent by close fights he did not even know were that close when the time came to step it up. I thought he won both fights with Canelo. But it is on GGG if he doesn't have instincts to know when has to do a little more. I see it as a one way punching bee.
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Originally posted by The Old LefHook View PostAntefuermo and Fullmer would have been quite a brawl between two maulers without a great punch.The Old LefHook likes this.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
Would have snagged a world title if Marvelous Marvin had never been born. Tough fighter!
I wish I could remember who else he thought would have risen to the top of the MWs. It was 30 years ago. Lol
That might be an interesting historical what if trivia game to play - What if Monzon never existed?
Who unseats Benvenuti first? (I think he was ready to go by 1971, although he gave Monzon a run for his money in fight one.) How would the 70s have looked?
Same with Joe Louis. His extraordinary long tenure likely squeezed out several possible champions.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
AGREED! Sometime back in the early 90s one of the boxing wags for one of the boxing rags wrote an article "What if Hagler never existed?" - his conclusion was that Hamsho would probably have held the title for three or four years before being unseated.
I wish I could remember who else he thought would have risen to the top of the MWs. It was 30 years ago. Lol
That might be an interesting historical what if trivia game to play - What if Monzon never existed?
Who unseats Benvenuti first? (I think he was ready to go by 1971, although he gave Monzon a run for his money in fight one.) How would the 70s have looked?
Same with Joe Louis. His extraordinary long tenure likely squeezed out several possible champions.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View PostMy quick picks:- Carlos Monzon
- Marvelous Marvin Hagler
- Bernard Hopkins
- Gennadiy Golovkin
- Sergio Martinez
- Rodrigo Valdez
- Saul Canelo Alvarez
- Thomas Hearns*
- Sugar Ray Leonard*
- Roy Jones Jr.*
Honorable Mention selections:
Bad Bennie Briscoe
James Toney*
Mike McCallum*
Chris Eubank*
Gerald McClellan
Steve Collins
Michael Nunn
Kelly Pavlik
Julian Jackson*
Hugo Corro
Arthur Abraham
Vito Antuofermo
Roberto Duran*
Iran Barkley*
Jermain Taylor
Ronald Winky Wright*
Herol Graham
Jean Claude Bouttier
Alan Minter
Mustafa Hamsho
Bobby Boogaloo Watts
John Mugabi
Nigel Benn*
Sumbu Kalambay
Billy Joe Saunders
Jermall Charlo
Kell Brook
Gratien Tonna
Daniel Geale
Felix Sturm
Miguel Cotto*
Felix Trinidad*
Juan Domingo Roldan
Michael Watson
William Joppy
Dwight Davison
Reggie Johnson
Demetrius Andrade
Frank Fletcher
Keith Holmes
Ronnie Harris
Tony Mundine
Tom Bogs
Thomas Tate*
Jaime Munguia
Kevin Finnegan
Emile Griffith
Daniel Jacobs*
Tony Sibson
Sam Soliman
Willie The Worm Monroe
Marco Antonio Rubio
Sugar Ray Seales
Bobby Czyz*
Paul Williams*
David Lemieux
Tony Licata
Eugene Cyclone Hart
Fulgencio Obelmejias
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
Howard Eastman
Nessim Max Cohen- * = Much of their career work done outside of the Middleweight division.
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I'm all for projecting, I really am, but I would say there has to be some sort of minimum amount of sample size to be out there actually at middleweight for someone to be considered. Otherwise, why not argue that Mayweather should be on the list? He never actually fought at middleweight, but he probably would be really good at it.
Canelo, and SRL both only have two wins at MW- against some big names for sure, but not really prime. Coincidentally, thats two more than other names I've read mentioned.Anthony342 likes this.
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