Ten best Middleweights of the past 50 Years 1972 – 2022 – Who've You got?

[QueensburyRules]

Is this to ask if "greatness" points should be shaved off for limited time in the division? If so, these things are interpreted by the respondent.

- - Canelo an odd duck bigger than divisional boxing. That's a problem as the Junior divisions weakened the Senior divisions as belts multiplied, and that's the era you chose to ask your middlewt question.

Popkins and most importantly Golovkin were the best in mulitple belt junior division era, but Marv having his best years from 1972 forward probably #1 in my view. Popular with the boxing folk and common fans in a way Leonard could never be.

[The Old LefHook]

Maybe the guy got there the first day of camp.

[P to the J]

Good question. It's a quickly thrown together pick list of some of the top middleweight contenders within that 50 year bracket. Very unscientific but informed. Look closely enough and you will find some omissions that were arguably better than some of the names on the lower part. Welterweight Kell Brook has no business on the list and should have read Curtis Parker! Good eye brother.

Oh, I see. Thanks for that. That’s another name I need to look up, too

[Anthony342]

Oh, I see. Thanks for that. That’s another name I need to look up, too

Cool profile pic. Gotta be the most uploaded movie clip on youtube next to the "Oh my GOOOOOOD" clip from Troll 2.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Carlos Monzon was 13-0, 12 being title fights. I didn't include him because Marv had more fights overall including title fights with the 1972 cutoff, but even so Monzon being so dominant, a good case can be made for his #1 status.

[The Old LefHook]

One thing in Monzon's favor is that he never really did struggle. Everyone he fought was kind of easy for him. In every part of his career we are familiar with, he was never in trouble, he was never really hurt, he was never even behind, probably, at any point in any fight. Monzon did not have to work as hard as other champions. Of course Marvin had far better opposition. If Monzon had been fighting some of those guys instead of diminutive Griffith and little Napoles, he might well have struggled.

[IronDanHamza]

One thing in Monzon's favor is that he never really did struggle. Everyone he fought was kind of easy for him. In every part of his career we are familiar with, he was never in trouble, he was never really hurt, he was never even behind, probably, at any point in any fight. Monzon did not have to work as hard as other champions. Of course Marvin had far better opposition. If Monzon had been fighting some of those guys instead of diminutive Griffith and little Napoles, he might well have struggled.

Benny Briscoe hurt him quite badly in the rematch in the 9th Round.

I wouldn't say Hagler's opposition is all that much better than Monzon's.

[markusmod]

- - Carlos Monzon was 13-0, 12 being title fights. I didn't include him because Marv had more fights overall including title fights with the 1972 cutoff, but even so Monzon being so dominant, a good case can be made for his #1 status.

Queen makes a solid point here.

[The Old LefHook]

Benny Briscoe hurt him quite badly in the rematch in the 9th Round.

I wouldn't say Hagler's opposition is all that much better than Monzon's.

My mistake. I accept the correction on faith.

You do seem to be saying, however, that Hagler's comp was indeed better. It becomes a matter of semantics and deciding precisely what "all that much better" means. Lining up each fighter's best opposition in two side-by-side columns might be revealing. Put their respective ages beside the names as well. That may reveal some more. Put how many fights the opposition had left in him, i.e., how many more times he fought. This could reveal more. List the results of recent fights. Invent any other category that seems useful. None of this can prove anything, but the results may provide strong intuitive evidence and insight. (I am talking to myself again).

[P to the J]

Cool profile pic. Gotta be the most uploaded movie clip on youtube next to the "Oh my GOOOOOOD" clip from Troll 2.

Cheers. Oh, you mean: “they’re eating her….. and now they’re gonna eat me!….”
Hahaha, brilliant stuff.

Anytime I watch a film these days it’s either an absolute stone cold classic, possibly black and white/foreign language such as by Kurosawa, etc., or it’s complete and utter trash. NEVER anything in between.