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  • #41
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    Hard to take these lists seriously; one guy says you can't use the 'see method' (whatever that means) you have to go with resume - go with resume and the next guy screams 'weakest era ever'- but that's OK because another guy says the 'triangular method' is flawed.

    Then they use all three when it fits their agenda.

    Hard to take these lists seriously can't figure why posters bother to create them except to strut their susposed superior opinion and disrespect others. Whole thing comes across quite silly.
    Its a skill... I can tell you that sincerely as one who does not have the moxie to create a decent list... Never could lol. It is a way of expressing knowledge and understanding, its hard to imagine why you have such a negative view of it.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      You know how ****** you sound when you post something like that? Seriously?
      No. Tell me why its ******.


      Edit: I think you of course are aware that Fury was positive for nandrolone for the Hammer fight? Since nothing happened with that wouldn't it then be a reasonable assumption that since Fury felt juicing was necessary to beat Hammer, then it surely would be needed against Klitschko? But you think i sound ******?
      Last edited by BattlingNelson; 04-28-2022, 04:28 AM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - To be fair, the Ks were effectively blacklisted as far as most of American heavyweight boxing media was then.

        Jennings was his return to America now without Manny. Jennings undefeated and very quick and spoiling in his style, and the ref wouldn't allow holding that Wlad had become dependent on. I thought it a serviceable win at a floydy level that fans always complained about, but, yeah, easy to see how a young Fury equally disparaged by establishment boxing was in the perfect moment in time as happens in most overthrows of great champions.

        Fury's Fig Leaf melted, and so here we are today with two champs not even in the same orbit with one of them fighting a real war, a sad statement of boxing and world affairs.
        Let's be perfectly clear on something we don't have two champs, we have one champ and a belt holder holding some of Fury's belts

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        • #44
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

          No. Tell me why its ******.


          Edit: I think you of course are aware that Fury was positive for nandrolone for the Hammer fight? Since nothing happened with that wouldn't it then be a reasonable assumption that since Fury felt juicing was necessary to beat Hammer, then it surely would be needed against Klitschko? But you think i sound ******?
          In all seriousness there's no way fury could have got away with juicing for a Wlad fight in Germany, Wlad is notorious for forcing extremely stringent drug testing on his challengers, more stringent than he himself undertook.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post

            Let's be perfectly clear on something we don't have two champs, we have one champ and a belt holder holding some of Fury's belts
            - - Lettuce be more Godly in our perfection to admit U have enshrined the Perfect Trinity of Blubber AJ duckers with Deyonce and the Shyte of Whyte.
            ,
            On a scale of 1-10, where what would be U collective Light in the Loafers rating?

            10 being Perfection Personified, VOILA, & so 10 it shall be Forevermore, Forevermore. th?id=OIP.YPpncW1g8nzowtUnc7UctwHaFj&pid=Api&P=0&w=231&h=173.jpg
            Last edited by QueensburyRules; 04-28-2022, 05:20 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

              Sorry wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Really!

              But I do think the arguments that these lists cause to break out are silly. There is this bizarre temperament where some posters think their opinion (and lists) are somehow 'right' and other opinions 'wrong.'

              It come across silly to me. But it was not directed at your post in particular, I could have replied to a half dozen different posts (everyday.) This just happen to be the moment I decided to b itch. Sorry.
              No worries my cyber friend! I'm aware too of what lists (or any show of subject matter bravado) can evoke. I even eluded to this very thing when in the preface portion of my 2nd rant on this thread, I wrote "of course, when one expresses an opinion and it is phrased like an inarguable fact, this is ample provocation. If he adds a list; it's hunting season". Ah, but what a fine list it is!! Still, even writers who find a book publisher and fill the shelves at Barnes and Noble are immediately going to get shi-T for a list! This we know. I enjoy your posts.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                Its a skill... I can tell you that sincerely as one who does not have the moxie to create a decent list... Never could lol. It is a way of expressing knowledge and understanding, its hard to imagine why you have such a negative view of it.
                Thank you. Of course people do these things "for their own amazement", but when someone salutes, that feels great! I appreciate you.

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                • #48
                  Why the phuck would a non-entity like Furry get a bump from KOing a fellow non-entity? Garbage that beat other garbage is still garbage.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View Post
                    Why the phuck would a non-entity like Furry get a bump from KOing a fellow non-entity? Garbage that beat other garbage is still garbage.
                    Starship Trooper, I am sure Old lefhook assigned a mentor to you. Reach out to you're mentor, please! Nash gets the feeling that they may have to take you under their wing as well. Nash out.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                      Its a skill... I can tell you that sincerely as one who does not have the moxie to create a decent list... Never could lol. It is a way of expressing knowledge and understanding, its hard to imagine why you have such a negative view of it.
                      I don't believe it a skill - I do believe lists gain credibility with knowledge.

                      My negativity come from two complaints:

                      . . . Posters who ridiculously believe their list (READ opinion) somehow has more value than the other guy's list, and then become rude about it.

                      . . . As I mentioned in my original complaint, the manner in which they attack one another's criteria, e.g. see method v resume ETC. As if one actually has more value than the other.

                      In short, list making can be an exploration but seems more often to become a road to hubris.

                      Maybe it belongs more in Fantasy Fights than history.

                      I don't understand your use of the word 'skill' here - as I said above, I realize greater knowledge will affect the value of a list but it's still just conjecture.

                      What skill?

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