6ft9 280lb Fury destroys any old timer boxer

[Nash out]

- -Never heared of U dummyness and I been here since 2005 but skipped out a decade while BS got their sheesh sorta together. Still too many loose bowels staining the landscape. AJ gave the great Ring Champ a chance to win his unified belts back in a tremendous fight.

Sorta like Manny gave Oscar a chance for another great promotion after Sissyboy Son of Senior ducked out of their rematch in the middle of promo, bursting into tears and crying in Ellerbee's loving arms. Fury ran crying fer his own daddy to skip out on Wlad rematch promos. Had U not been such a pillock about claiming Fury beats everyone in history, U might have some decent respect and conversations. As it stands, he's in a deadman walking phase of his career. Wheels already came off once and seriously wobbly again.

Just accept that Fury is the GOAT and make peace with it. I don't get why so many are jealous of Kronk just because he is p4p number 1, but then again, it was the same with Mayweather, people hate greatness unless it was some guy from 20-100 years ago with 20 losses to his name, then those guys are awesome and so much better than the guys now. Clueless fools.

[QueensburyRules]

Could you repeat that post in English please?

- -I use Dumberish for U louts.

Deadman walking by mental characteristics both he and Deyonce...

[QueensburyRules]

Just accept that Fury is the GOAT and make peace with it. I don't get why so many are jealous of Kronk just because he is p4p number 1, but then again, it was the same with Mayweather, people hate greatness unless it was some guy from 20-100 years ago with 20 losses to his name, then those guys are awesome and so much better than the guys now. Clueless fools.

- -U can gum Fury all U want. He does like low hanging fruit after all...

[Nash out]

- -U can gum Fury all U want. He does like low hanging fruit after all...

He'll never be beaten, boy. I hope you aren't putting any hopes into Joshua beating him? Sure Joshua could wipe the floor with the likes of prime Mike Tyson and Chicken Bowe, but this is a whole other level of quality.

[QueensburyRules]

He'll never be beaten, boy. I hope you aren't putting any hopes into Joshua beating him? Sure Joshua could wipe the floor with the likes of prime Mike Tyson and Chicken Bowe, but this is a whole other level of quality.

- -Cain't be beat when he ran from AJ beatings into the loving arms of Deyonce at least twice now and probably more.

[billeau2]

If track times hadn't been recorded with stopwatches since I don't know when, you would have athletics fans swearing that Jessie Owens would leave any present day sprinter for dead.

Some of these old timers are still clinging on to ideas that have their origins in pre WW2 "gym wisdom"

In another thread, Billeau2 is trying to tell me that, when it comes to punching power, the equation - "speed x mass = force" only works up to 175lbs. Above that, the laws of physics don't apply.

If people want to drink the koolade about any fighter, so be it... But putting words in my mouth because you are too ****** to comprehend what is said is in poor taste. Let me explain it again since you didn't get it apparently... Or, if I said this? Please provide such a post and I will admit ineptitude, will admit your reading comprehension is poor if you cannot provide such a post?

I punch has three variables from a basic formula: mass x acceleration equals force. F=ma. neuton's law for a force. Idiots like you only consider Mass... a punch has three variables: mass, acceleration (speed) and bio mechanical efficiency. I explained to you that given evidence of great punchers that there is a threshold where more mass does not affect a punch when it comes to the weight of the person throwing the punch. I put that threshold at anywhere from 170 to 190 pounds. I never claimed to know this... But somewhere is a number where weight becomes irrelevant to the power of a punch because the other factors become more prominant. Then I gave you plenty of examples... i demonstrated that great punchers typically are on the small to average size for the heavyweights, I spoke of great punchers in the other divisions etc. I even gave an xample where a female boxer dianyelle wolf, at around 150 registered a harder punch than an MMA fighter considered a premier striker.

Now idiot... if the danyelle wolf fought the make striker who would win? Let me guess... to you because the male fighter punches harder would explain it, when he clearly does not. Does his weight figure into why he would win? Naturally, and it has NOTHING to do with the power of his punch. Hence, yes we have weight divisions, yes Julian Jackson couldnot fight Rid**** Bowe, because of weight, size and strength... but not necessarily because of punch strength. Prove otherwise and stop putting words in my mouth.

[billeau2]

. . . and if Jesse Owens was a product of 21st Century track and field he just might leave everyone behind him, and then again maybe not.

Never judge a man's greatness outside his own time.

First you guys tell us these past fighters are too small to compete against Fury because they are so small; you then tell us he's the greatest fighter of all time because he could beat all these ATGs.

????????? - You don't see the bad logic in your statements?

Isn't it like telling us your friend is the toughest guy in the senior class becuse he could go down to the Middle School and beat up 8th graders?

Judge a man against his contemporaries.

Not only is Fury not the GOAT, he is, as of now resume wise, not even an ATG.

Still has much to prove. Wald and Wilder ? That's not much accomplishment, thus far.

In fact if it all ends after this next fight, and you three guys die off as all humans do, history wise Fury will be remembered as another Carnera nothing more.

Still has much to prove.

He won a decision over a ring worn stick and grab Eastern Block fighter and drew and stopped a guy with (only) a good right hand punch. That's not the stuff GOATS are made of.

Still has much to prove.

Stating at this point that Fury is the GOAT is the ******est thing I have read on this forum. *

* Of course it's not - I have read some very ****** things on this forum I just wanted to throw your own word back at you.

P.S. I still say he is too soft in the middle - looks to be a lazy fighter, my guess, that will catch up to him.

Fury is a wonderful fighter because he has been trained from an early age, and not in the abysmal amateur style. But these guys are either trolling, or insane. Left Hook was joking by the way but humor went over heads I guess.

Fury does not have any real power, he loops his punches horribly. On his jab he pushes out from the elbow. In an era with great fighters he would have real difficulties. It would be nice to see if his punching is better against wilder this time. But he will never have enough juice punching to be a threat to fighters who were ATG and developed skills in addition to being able to hit with both hands and KO opponent. He also needs to fight AJ and or a few upcommers to be taken seriously like Lewis always did during his reign. I ador the Gypsy King, but level heads have to prevail lol.

[ShoulderRoll]

If track times hadn't been recorded with stopwatches since I don't know when, you would have athletics fans swearing that Jessie Owens would leave any present day sprinter for dead.

Some of these old timers are still clinging on to ideas that have their origins in pre WW2 "gym wisdom"

In another thread, Billeau2 is trying to tell me that, when it comes to punching power, the equation - "speed x mass = force" only works up to 175lbs. Above that, the laws of physics don't apply.

Jesse Owens could leave a lot of present day sprinters for dead, actually.


"Consider that Usain Bolt started by propelling himself out of blocks down a specially fabricated carpet designed to allow him to travel as fast as humanly possible. Jesse Owens, on the other hand, ran on cinders, the ash from burnt wood, and that soft surface stole far more energy from his legs as he ran."

"Biomechanical analysis of the speed of Owens' joints shows that had he been running on the same surface as Bolt, he wouldn't have been 14 feet behind, he would have been within one stride," said Epstein.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...wens/80523426/

[kafkod]

If people want to drink the koolade about any fighter, so be it... But putting words in my mouth because you are too ****** to comprehend what is said is in poor taste. Let me explain it again since you didn't get it apparently... Or, if I said this? Please provide such a post and I will admit ineptitude, will admit your reading comprehension is poor if you cannot provide such a post?

Your confused... Im not talking about the advantages of weight, I am talking about the ability to punch as hard as humanely possible. It is a tremendous advantage to have weight over someone. You can use strength and leverage to a greater degree, etc. But the limit to actual punching strength, considering the combination of speed, weight, etc happens at a weight below heavyweight... probably around 170. Speed x mass are the two factors at play here... Body density is only a contributing factor towards mass at a certain point.

I don't even pretend to know precisely at what weight it becomes immaterial to punch power. I do know that punching power loses its correlation to mass at some point,probably before 190 or so.

I'll look in tomorrow to see if you are a man of your word ....

[HOUDINI563]

I watched a test where they took the worlds fastest man, had him use the same type running shoes as Jesse Owens and had him run on the same type track. Result was that Owens times were faster.

Weight differences mean allot more at lower weights. Punchers such as Dempsey, Louis, Marciano had the punching power and more importantly skill to ko any opponent no matter the weight. Watch the final two blows of Louis bout with Galento. Always amazed with these two blows. Thrown with mean intentions look at the torque Louis generates especially with that final left hook. Nearly took Galentos head off. It was as if Louis closed a barn door upon Galentos chin. Just as brutal as it gets.