6ft9 280lb Fury destroys any old timer boxer

[DeeMoney]

So I have to ask the original poster, at what point in history do we get to a fighter who could actually compete with Fury? Ali? Lewis? Kilts?

[Willie Pep 229]

Carpentier-Dempsey

H.L. Mencken described the "Gallent Frog's" punches as wide swinging and graceful, making a loud slapping sound when they landed, exciting the uneducated crowd. The "brutish" Dempsey's like a ferry boat ****ing against a wooden dock.

I suspect there are not too many around today who have experienced standing on a wooden dock with the tide ****ing a large ship against it. The sensation of the boat's power is telling.

[markusmod]

Me, you, LoadedWraps and Fury4daWin, that was it.

And Anorak, when he wasn't chasing Lady Boys in Thailand

[QueensburyRules]

Fury is a wonderful fighter because he has been trained from an early age, and not in the abysmal amateur style. But these guys are either trolling, or insane. Left Hook was joking by the way but humor went over heads I guess.

Fury does not have any real power, he loops his punches horribly. On his jab he pushes out from the elbow. In an era with great fighters he would have real difficulties. It would be nice to see if his punching is better against wilder this time. But he will never have enough juice punching to be a threat to fighters who were ATG and developed skills in addition to being able to hit with both hands and KO opponent. He also needs to fight AJ and or a few upcommers to be taken seriously like Lewis always did during his reign. I ador the Gypsy King, but level heads have to prevail lol.

- -Be even better if he hadn't melted in advance of the Wlad rematch and every AJ offer, each of were at least the totality of the first two Deyonce fights. The last was even worse when he shaaat hisself backing out of a $75 mil guarantee.

[billeau2]

I'll look in tomorrow to see if you are a man of your word ....

Your not reading what I wrote carefully. Your mistaking the term correlation... look up what a "correlation" is. Then look up the formula for force. It has two elements when it comes to generating force...not one. This means they have a relationship with each other... If I fire a bullet that weighs less than a stone, it can do more damage because of velocity... So at a certain point, either variable can increase decrease in generating force. This means that they correlate to each other, or have a relationship to each other in generating force.

A punch involves another variable as well biomechanical efficiency. At some point in throwing a punch, mass becomes less important in how it determines the force of a punch...not force itself, as in being any different in the formula. This is because of speed, and biomechanical efficiency... So the correlation, relationship changes because speed and biomechanical efficiency become more prominant...speed would have to increase in this case given the formula.

What you fail to read properly is what a "correlation" is. It is a relationship, not an absolute. To say that the speed and mass of an object correlates differently is not saying the formula changes...It is to say one becomes more prominant than another. Again: I have a bullet to fire, you a boulder to throw that is five times as massive as the bullet. It is a true statement that in this instance the correlation changes between speed and mass when we examine who will generate more force, given the equation which remains unchanged.

Here is a very simplified way of understanding the point: the amount of sugar you put in a birthday cake to make it sweeter changes compared to the amount you might put to balance a spaghetti sauce... In either case, the sugar sweetens the same, but given the type of food sweet/savory "sweet" changes dramatically. One uses a lot less sugar to make one dish than another while "sweetness" and the sugar act the same. A punch is an exerscize in generating a type of force... Mass being mass, changes in how prominant it figures in determining the impact of the punch because of speed and body mechanics. we know that when it comes to throwing a punch there are three variables, and that speed figures in and so does mass. None of these are a constant... Its not like saying the speed of light changes...which is wrong.

Now lets see if your a man of your word or not... I doubt it. I did apologize for mistaking the Qarry Brothers... I am a man of my word. You misread my point... And its obvious, otherwise Mass would be a constant, a fixed amount like pie, or the speed of light.

[billeau2]

- -Be even better if he hadn't melted in advance of the Wlad rematch and every AJ offer, each of were at least the totality of the first two Deyonce fights. The last was even worse when he shaaat hisself backing out of a $75 mil guarantee.

Any one of us would probably jump into the ring with almost anyone for that kind of scratch...Kind of like the inverse of fatigue makes cowards of us all.

[billeau2]

Carpentier-Dempsey

H.L. Mencken described the "Gallent Frog's" punches as wide swinging and graceful, making a loud slapping sound when they landed, exciting the uneducated crowd. The "brutish" Dempsey's like a ferry boat ****ing against a wooden dock.

I suspect there are not too many around today who have experienced standing on a wooden dock with the tide ****ing a large ship against it. The sensation of the boat's power is telling.

Lucky for me we had the Staten Island Ferry!

[billeau2]

I watched a test where they took the worlds fastest man, had him use the same type running shoes as Jesse Owens and had him run on the same type track. Result was that Owens times were faster.

Weight differences mean allot more at lower weights. Punchers such as Dempsey, Louis, Marciano had the punching power and more importantly skill to ko any opponent no matter the weight. Watch the final two blows of Louis bout with Galento. Always amazed with these two blows. Thrown with mean intentions look at the torque Louis generates especially with that final left hook. Nearly took Galentos head off. It was as if Louis closed a barn door upon Galentos chin. Just as brutal as it gets.

Wait! Hold on! No no no... Weight is a constant, it never changes! Like the speed of light!!! Kafkod told me! (Being sarcastic).

[The Old LefHook]

It takes an idiot to engage with an idiot.

[HOUDINI563]

Regarding punching power what I don’t believe is being considered is the skill of being able to punch very hard. Technique and timing. It’s a very old phrase but the ability to put ones body behind a punch is a learned skill very few master. Using SIZE to in some way determine punching power is an exercise of a neophyte. Size just like reach (to determine jab effectiveness) is a simplistic data point that the complete amateur boxing fan argues.

Understanding the SKILL of being able to land crushing punches is far more difficult.