nice...... he seems like a really cool guy he was taking pics with virtually any one that asked him for one im sure i would like him personally but porfessionally i hate him
joe calzaghe hes been rated so high up from fighting bums in europe for 99% of his career only big wins are lacy(ridiculously over hyped) bhop(44 and didnt have the legs to keep up that pace no more) kessler (good win) roy jones jr (over the hill)
i saw him at cotto-clottey fight he was 10 ft away from me made eye contact and i yelled calslappy at the top of my lungs it was awesome even if he would have kicked my ass
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if it was literally any one else you dummies wouldn't be scoring it for algieri, but since its amir khan you have to discredit all the work he did. I couldn't see any way in hell that algieri won more than 4 rounds. Good fighter though and I'm curious to see who he fights next.
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Floyd barely beats Maidana "he TBE doe"
lol 9-3 or 8-4 at best and almost shutting him out in the rematch isn't barely.
you are high if you think otherwise
maidana has fought mayweather, khan, kotelnik, alexander, ortiz
thurman has fought bundu, a couple washed ex titlists and a couple cab drivers.
and maidana is 1-5 in those fights. thus showing he isn't at that level
Because he hasn't fought at Welterweight until this year so nobody can give a definitive example with proof.
But the fact is he has been knocked out at lower weights and i suspect there are a few Welterweights who can and probably will knock him out should they fight. If you're getting knocked out then the reality is that you have been outboxed.
If Garcia moves up to 147, then we have a definite example of a WW who can outbox him...because he did already.
danny garcia did not outbox khan. He was getting washed by khan and then he hit the lotto when he threw that left hook....with his eyes closed. theres a reason angel wanted nothing to do with a rematch. the punch was a fluke. stop with the khan hate damn. I bet most of you picked devon to win and now are backtracking and trying to discredit khan now like always. its almost pathetic the hate for this guy
maidana knows thurman wrecks him because maidana is a b level fighter at best. He was handed 2 big fights that he didn't earn and now believes that hes a great fighter. He kept fighting 140 lbers at 147 and thought he was the man. Any top welterweight outclasses him
I am amazed with your short term memories. This maidana who supposedly beats hype jobs also got outclassed by devon alexander, went life and death with an old, fat and shot to dog **** erik morales. He was also getting hit with everything josesito lopez (a natural 140 lber) threw and was hurt by him. He finally beats a good fighter in broner (another guy who's not a real welterweight) .The only true welter weight he ever beat was jesus soto karass. fmj proved to the world the world that maidana didn't belong in the ring with the elite even though real fans already knew that. Why are you dummies thinking that maidana can beat any one near the top of the division? He's slow, he can't box for ****, he gets hurt by much smaller men, his punches are wide as hell and his defense sucks. Stop with the nonsense already
im excited as hell...and i hold cottos fate.......theres only 2 fights i havent gone to in the last few years and thats his fights with margarito and pacquiao so im 100% sure that as long as im there hes winning
Baldomir earned his sot without having to cheat, im going to leave that one right there. Your crazyif you think margarito has alot more skill than baldo lol skill and margarito dont belong in same category. Your also using double standars saying martinez was better than oscar when oscar was ranked higher, better he probably was so thats what i was pointing ut to in hatton and bradley.Do you really think ouma spinks and roman were better than Oscar?
**** shane had to rob oscar at that weight to get a win over it. The same shane Pac ducked, which floyd ended up fighting.
You can make a case for each fighter. I just happen to favor floyd
name me 1 top welter that baldomir beat to earn his shot at judah....if you see him fight and analyze margarito is a very skilled fighter hes slow and likes to brawl so it doesnt look pretty but with that style you have to be incredibly skilled to be at the elite level of any division for that long....bradley to this day hasnt beaten any one at the level of hattons wins..his best win was holt and holt looks like **** now....the shane pac ducked and floyd fought is the same shane that had to fihgt tooth and nail with the same mayorga that was destroyed by old tito and old oscar..and thats the same shane that had alot of trouble against a fat vargas who didnt want to train and the same vargas who got his ass kicked by that mayorga...im sure your a little confused right now the point is that every one is assuming these fighters are still great based on past accomplishments and reputation as much as i love oscar there was a reason why he fought mayorga and its cuz he didnt have it no more which was obvious by the pounding light hitting forbes gave him...there is a weak ass case for floyd if your neautral only flomo ie yourself seem to overrate is accomplishments above 135 and repeat the same dumbass **** he says...im starting to get tired of making you mere mortals look like *******s
Floyd beat the number 1 130lber in corrales. The #1 lightweight in castillo number#1 WW in baldomir/shane mosley #1 JWW in ricky hatton(granted at ww) and beat the #1 JMW in Oscar. Manny beat david diaz, a faded cotto(at catchweight), and is fighting a ****ty marg in a made up division thats closer to WW than JWW.
Floyd>Manny and i have a case for it, not just talkin out my ass
corrales was killing himself to make weight..castillo beat floyd..baldomir lol mosely is just as faded as roy and didnt deserve to be labeled as number 1 welter at the time..ricky hatton who was beat by collazo and knocked silly by pacs roided ass..literally ran from oscar for 9 rounds before he decided to start fighting who was a part time fighter at that point and didnt beat any one at the elite level in yrs flomo
david diaz was a fight to get an east belt..cotto isnt faded just cuz he lost a fight to margs...but he also beat marquez in his natural weight and hatton who was bigger in his natural weight clottey whos a lhw on fight night at his natural weight..he was calling out cheato after he beat oscar and this was when the master of plaster was riding hight off beating cotto...as much as you love floyd besides beating old oscar and shane from 140+ he didnt do much...me>manny>floyd
Yeah now you go with Deal with it. Pac-Man has been beating on fighters who are already coming off huge losses.
-DLH = L to Floyd
-Hatton= L to Floyd
-Cotto= L to Marg (1 year before fighting Pac)
-Clottey=L to Cotto (then fought Pac)
-Barrera= Coming off a L
Get the picture?
sharmba mitchell-destructive L to tszyu
judah-embarrassing L to baldomir
baldomir-never beat any one good except zab
oscar-coming off 2 beatings by bhop and sturm
hatton-coming off beating by collazo
marquez- fighting 3 division above natural weight
shane-coming off embarrassing fight against mayorga and last fight 1yr 1/2 earlier
your reaching dude....thanks for playing and failing...im simply better than you
LMFAO at the Loser breaking out his Mayweather spreadsheet, I never brought Floyd up you ****ing groupie.
if you mean me than no im not a groupie im possibly the greatest man that ever lived....and yes i pulled it out cuz while manny needed certain stipulations and peds to win floyd needed to fight guys at certain times in their career to win and calling me a groupie is hilarious when you got pics of another man all over your ****...you cant make me look stupid bro im just better than you
Your just looking dumb bro, why bring Floyd up? I never mentioned him. This isn't relevant with the thread.
ok ok fair enough you didnt bring him up and hes not relevant to this thread...so ima stop
but i cannot look dumb its impossible im too amazing and superior to every one else on this site to look dumb in any way
Revisionist bull**** history at it's finest. Corrales was so weight drained against Floyd, yet he beat Casamayor at 130 some 5 or 6 fights after that??
Also he had the master himself as his conditioning coach in ALEX ARIZA!!! Guess Alex hadn't figured out the optimum mix for his special blend a that particular time?.....eh ****** :wave::wave:
i dont even know what revisionist means but ok ima take it as a compliment....corrales was drained as hell because he didnt fight at 130 until he fought casamayor for the 1st time and another fight he lost....granted he won the rematch at 130 but then went right up again which shows he was having much trouble making weight...and obviously ariza didnt perfect his "ariza shakes"
yet because then corrales would have become lhw champion...your not gona make me look dumb im just better than you
i prove his post wrong & the ignorant zero home training miscreant tries to weasel his way out of his post.
hahaha did he delete his post? i didnt even know you can do that..too funny
I remember that john starks dunk in your avy. Made jordan say, " I don't know when starks join the NBA, but right now, he's in the NBA" or something like that.
lol yea i wish i was there bro he said something like "i didnt know who he was before today..but i know who he is now" great memories
Nah... Floyd resume at 130-135 and with his win over Mosley(which kills me that he really doesn't get credit for) is much better than Hopkins whole career. However, if B-hop beats Pascal then a case can seriously be made IMO.
I can't see how anybody can have B-Hop over Roy Jones. I just don't see it.
same here bro...i know roy didnt always fight the best of the best but he did fight a ****load of talented fighters....since bhop moved up in weight hes been beating a bunch of mw at lhw
Bit lame ass buddy , you even gunna count who you think wins to bolster your argument lol ,,
How about remove the coming of loses fighters from the resumes totally , what are we left with then we both are compared ?
ass buddy? ok i guess were ass buddies now :wave: im not really a fan of manny or floyd i just like to argue with flomos and pactards from time to time...and if we remove the coming off losses fighters then we might not have a great comparison at all....and btw does any one think that oscar beat sturm and that hatton beat collazo..im a big fan of both of them and i say they took beatings
Thing is , if you wanna argue resumes . you got to stand by whats on them ,,,, yeah I like to get into the Pactards for fun so I guess we are a little alike , but ass buddys , not that close :) , next time I,ll put the ,, in between ,.
that makes sense i guess technically they were wins...and yes mak sure you put the , cuz i was confused
i dont eve think hes that. Floyd is the best of his rea. Floyd has been champ while Manny was getting koed in the phillipines. Im not even a floyd fan
****ing liar...biggest flomo alive...hes all you talk about
Why dont you name the fights they lost dumbass? Sure they beat on punching bags and nobodies before fighting Pacquaio but you know what I'm saying most of them were coming off huge losses.
Thanks for playing & failing.
your reaching dude lol flomo