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John deserved the victory but juarez had him on queer street. Had the fight lasted another minute it would have been over imo. I don't know why juarez took it easy in the middle round tho.

Yeah,I heard that too,but I also read that they wont publicly reveal the results Damn, then what's the whole point on revealing anything on march 10? I'm sure the results are already in and people on the inside know what's up. The public has a right to know since there was a public hearing. Otherwise why would they announce march 10?

No idea.maybe some deal has been done,could be just a rumour,it was posted up here last week. I'm pretty sure it will be publicly announced since there was cameras at the hearing and it was public. It has to be announced to the public.

Didn't they say they will reveal what kind of substance was used on march 10? I thought i heard this.

the ref reached the count of 10 so it should have been over, he was counted out. when cintron started complaining he didn't wave the fight off and told cintron to go to his corner. not to mention he got extra rest during their debate.

There was very little action in the first so that round could have gone either way. Even if I gave pac the first round I had it 114-113 marquez. 115-112 for marquez if I give him the first.

Damn it! I was looking forward to watching this fight and I missed it.

I'll watch it later since it's tape delayed here in the west coast. yea at 10 on ch.54

Is that cable or Direct TV? Directv. If you live in the l.a. area its part of the local channels.

wasnt he talking shit about GBP few months back? fukin kiss ass I was just about to say that. He would say don king is the only true promoter in boxing or some thing and that dlh and arum were bad for the sport.

I'm in northern cali and got Direct TV, but they wanna make me pay more for that sh*t. I'm so f*ckin pissed they took Solo Boxeo off of Univision. That sucks. We got the spanish pack from directv but azteca america is part of the local channels anyway.

Thanks! I've been looking for that channel. No prob. Enjoy the fight.

Sometimes, if there was nothing to watch on tv, i flipped on the Spanish channels(even if i don't understand the languange), i know of channel 22 and 46 but never knew of 54. yea that's azteca america, this is where bob arum said they're gonna have more boxing cards this year replacing telefutura. ch 34, 52, 62, and 64 are mexican channels as well.

Who are their opponents????????// I know Montiel is fighting Morel, but what about the rest????????? I think segura will be rematching cesar canchilla. Don't know who soto or castillo will be fighting.

Damn, that sucks. Segura-Canchila II was gonna be free tv. I thought so too. On Azteca America.

You're reading way too much into this. Believe me when I tell you, Hatton is a Diaz level fighter. And Pacquiao will walk through his ass with ease. Hatton has no chance. I agree with this. Pacquiao should have no prob with hatton.

I had the fight a draw. Plus we get a new ring champ.

And if Diaz wasnt with GBP, "next week" wouldnt be happening. And why should someone who deserves to be #1 have to sit around and wait for the champ to "get around" to fighting him? Look at middleweight for example. Does Arthur Abraham's #1 ranking get him any closer to a shot at the "champ" Pavlik? Nope. Or look at Jr. Welter. Bradley is at #1. He'll probably be on social security before he gets a shot at Hatton. Mandatories are not always a bad thing....... So what if JMM is fighting diaz. These are the two best lightweights in the world. There is no gbp bias as the rankings have not been corrupted since dlh bought the magazine. Abraham will fight pavlik in the near future (I predict this year as bob arum said pavlik will fight 3 times this year with abraham coming in december). Bradley probably won't fight hatton cause hatton will retire in the next two fights thus vacating the belt and making bradley next in line against the number 2. Sure mandatories aren't bad, for a tune up fight. Would u really consider cotto the welterweight champion after beating jennings? The market always dictates the good fights and the best for the most part always end up fighting the best, except for floyd mayweather but you can't blame him for fighting oscar at 154 or hatton at 147.

Th problem with Ring is that is does not require mandatory defenses. How can something be considered a legitimate championship when the "champ" can fight whomever he chooses? Ring rankings are NOT a path to the title. You could be ranked #1 for 10 years and never get a shot at the "champ". Since GBP signed Casamayor, every Ring title fight at 135 has been between 2 GBP fighters. The Ring champ usually always or eventually fights all the other ranked contenders so it works itself out. The ring does not dictate nor manipulate a fighters career. I almost always see the best fighters fighting for the ring belt. Seldomly do I ever see a ring fighter fighting irrelevants and if they do next time around they fight the other ranked contenders. Next week is a perfect example.

I don't know about you guys but I actually had marquez winning the third fight with vazquez. That may be another reason why he's not as famous although still admired and respected by all mexicans.

maybe boxing fans but not mexican fans. What makes you say that mexicans don't respect vazquez? That's bs.

That could be true. If Vazquez beats Lopez (which will be a tough task), I'm sure his fanbase on here will skyrocket. Spot on. I was just gonna say that.

Vazquez - Mexican American. There's your answer. No he isn't. He can barely speak english.

Cotto's english is getting better as well. Yeah, you think that would be a strike against Tony, but he did move back to Mexico. Where Vazquez left Mexico for California. But hell, Morales left Mexico for California as well, last I heard he's still living there. I have no idea why the Mexican fans on here don't support Izzy that much. Though it's much different in real life, the Mexican people always come to watch Izzy scrap. :boxing: I think i has to do with the fact that margarito beat cotto who is a good fighter. You also have to throw in the whole rivalry with puerto rico.

I don't like Kellerman, but I would have literally paid to have seen Kellerman interview Cintron after the fight and be like "Well Kermit, let's see the replay so you can see that there was clearly no headbutt", and than proceed to tell Kermit there was no way in hell he won. Kellerman annoys me, but he's got balls when interviewing fighters during the post fight. Lol! Man I was hoping for a post fight interview like that. Does anyone know if there's video of a post fight press conference?

Don't know about robbery although I did think funeka won. Martinez was robbed though.

I wouldn't call the funeka/campbell fight a robbery although I clearly thought funeka won. Martinez was just robbed period.

Cintron is a whiny piece of shit indeed. This fool had the nerve to say he actually won this fight.

See above. He speaks English quite regularly. It's not as good as Barrera's english, but it's not bad either. I understand him perfectly. Other than speaking little english he's on the same boat as margarito. Both train, live, and fight out of california. Except margarito was actually born in torrance.

So after all this hype JMM has just got about beating Juan Diaz it seemed like he was eligible to be very close to #1 p4p or #1 p4p on my list. So I went back and I watched Pacquiao vs. Marquez 2 And despite everyone telling me that Marquez won the fight, and the fact that most magazines and boxing analysts had marquez winning the fight. I saw Pacquiao winning the fight 115 - 112 I just want to know what objections you guys have for my scorecard. R1 - Pacquiao R2 - Marquez...Punch landed at the end of the round R3 - Pacquiao easy to score due to the KD R4 - Pacquiao...Marquez seemed to be a little dazed in this round R5 - Marquez...landed better shots R6 - Marquez...easy round to score...no doubt about who won this round. R7 - Pacquiao...was more active and made it HIS round and HIS type of fight R8 - Marquez...Made a cut on Pacquiao R9 - Pacquiao...Made a cut NEW cut on Marquez R10 - Pacquiao, Almost KD'd Marquez R11 - Pacquiao Landed more R12 - Marquez...Clearly won the round. Any objections to my scorecard? I order for Marquez to win on my scorecard you'd have to give 2 of the rounds I gave to Manny to Marquez. I want to know what you think about my scoring :) I had it 115-112 marquez. I believe I gave pac the 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 10th. I felt marquez won the rest.