Nothing happens. Again, my original post about this was simply to refute someone else saying the 50 million offer was phony. I made a single comment that stated Hearn was on record saying he verified the 50 million and still declined, and that set off the sh:t show we have now. Lol
Frank Warren is on record stating that the 50 million would have come from him and BT Sport. And that they would have bought the rights to the fight with that 50 million. Anthony Joshua is tied contractually to Sky Sports and Matchroom. Even if Anthony Joshua would have tried to accept the fake offer/ultimatum the fight would have never happened and they would probably still be in court today. So keep peddling hogwash. You're only trying to convince yourself.
Why did Hearn mention it if it wasn't a serious offer? By mentioning it and comparing it to the $32 mil he's legitimizing the $50 mil offer.
Now thats what I call avoiding the question...
Two pages in and I'm reading a bunch of fans, giddy about how much money AJ is making or going to make. They sound worse than some of the Mayweather fans. The notion that a fan is going to be upset that a man is making money.
At this stage toilet plunger and hickey boy might as well start bragging about how AJ's balls hang 2cm lower than Wilder's because nut hugging appears to be a thing on NSB.
Wilder fans are the same people as the psycho Pacquiao fans. This post is pure evidence.
As it stands, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz are the only heavyweights who are actually trying to fight the best (at this stage of their careers). Like Usyk, Crawford, Mikey Garcia, Teofimo Lopez and Lomachenko in other divisions. It's fun to support these fighters, even if they lose.
The rest are either playing it safe or are solely focused on "appearing" to be the best. Like Joshua, Whyte, Spence, Thurman and Gervonta Davis. The only meaningful fights for these fighters are:
Joshua - Wilder
Joshua - Fury
Joshua - Ortiz
Whyte - Ortiz
Whyte - Braezaele
Spence - Crawford
Spence - Thurman
Spence - Porter
Thurman - Crawford
Thurman - Porter
Gervonta Davis - Lomachenko
Until then, any other matchup is frustrating and disappointing. I used to believe that Joshua was the real deal until he pulled that stunt against Wilder. Then I took a deeper look into how he maneuvered around Wilder to pick up Fury's belts. Everybody boasts about how he's only had 22 fights but nobody forced him to become a champion before he was ready. HE chose to do that. The Klitschko fight seemed to take him to another level but maybe Klitschko wasn't really all that good, because since that fight he only seems to be interested in fighting faded and second-tier fighters. I would heavily favor Wilder and Fury over Joshua at this point. Even Whyte was lowballed to cover a Joshua loss, and Whyte had a bad shoulder when he lost their first fight. Miller may actually have a shot, but I believe he was picked because, again, perception is everything.
Now you're adding excuses to conspiracy theories and false narratives. Let it go bro. You're going to waste all of your spare time trying dig up every detail, nuance and innuendo to try to make Deontay Wilder look like some kind of noble hero/victim. The dude is a straight up liar and its completely obvious.
Right. Klitschko offering Wilder step aside money to fight for the WBC title, Joshua choosing to overpay Martin for a shot at the IBF title instead of fighting Povetkin in 2016 to become WBC mandatory, Klitschko choosing Joshua over Wilder to fight for the WBA title, Parker choosing Joshua over Wilder to unify the WBO title for a 30% split, Joshua all of a sudden NOT offering Wilder a split, then rejecting a Showtime offer (he asked for) of $50 million against 50% guarantee and choosing to fight Povetkin instead...
These are all false narratives. Wilder has been ducking the whole time. The truth has been staring me in the face. Don't know how I didn't see it...
Exactly. All attempts at sarcasm not withstanding, you contunue to prove the point. False narratives and conspiracy theories abound.
Once you get past the I rate Joshua so everybody else knows AND rates him too mindset you will get what I'm saying. Only hardcores and people who make a living off boxing know and rate AJ in America. As such, those who don't know and don't rate Joshua won't value a Miller win like they should. They won't know any better.
There is no deflection and you are starting to come off as intentionally daft. Multiple people have commented that a contract was not sent and gave you what any reasonable person would deem as a logical explanation as to why it wasn't.
Are you contending that all real offers in boxing must come accompanied with a contract? If so, please say that so that we all can just disagree and move on.
All offers come with terms. It doesnt have to be a finalized contract. But you know that already like every other Wilder fan that tries to use this completely bogus "50 million dollar offer" as Wilder's get out of jail free pass. But of course you will contunue to be in full denial mode and lie and whine and camp out in boxingscene defending this dude who is obviously a straight up liar. But thats what being a Deontay Wilder fan is all about. ...the love of lies and false narratives
If you do your own research, you'll come a very different conclusion: that the reason why Joshua lowballed Wilder and refused to fight him for $50+ million was that he wasn't ready. He strategically retrieved all the other belts for leverage. And after the Wilder-Fury fight, he now believes he can win. But Wilder and Fury have unfinished business to attend to, so the fight should happen next.
Lol. Y'all Wilder fans can't see the truth even when its staring you in the face. But boxing fans and Americans especially seem to love a false narrative. Fast food mentality...
When you do your own research, when you listen to sources directly to get the full context of what is actually said, when you formulate your own opinions BEFORE listening to other people's views, you realize that Klitschko, Martin, Parker and Joshua have all avoided Wilder for far less dangerous opponents. Joshua has nobody else to blame but himself for not fighting Wilder in September, losing the Wembley date in April and having to wait for the Wilder-Fury rematch. He didn't expect Fury to step in and steal his limelight.
OMG. Its amazing that you cant see that you're proving my point for me.
The "the $50M offer wasn't real" comments are like the squeaky crazy noises coming from the closet in a horror film. Its bait. They know the truth, but it does well to distract from other discussions. Like why Hearn feels the need to comment on how much he projects AJ will make before the fight is even signed.
http://https://youtu.be/ufAsrTZCUwk
My man, what is your problem? I am just in here to talk boxing. No clue why you are coming at me with insults, because I did not insult you. But whatever..
What Hearn initially said was, he was not going to go further until he knew the money was real.
He then found out the money was real. but his reason for backing out was not a lack of a contract (you idiot) but because the 50 mil guarantee would give complete control of the show (venue, tv rights, etc) to Team Wilder.
Basically Hearn wanted someone else to put up 50 million dollars for his fighter, but to still allow Hearn to run the promotion, which is of course stupid. Much like yourself.
http://https://youtu.be/ufAsrTZCUwk
Bruce effin Vane!
http://Wrong. Stephen Espinoza on twisted BT conspiracy logic (after 10:00): Bruce Vane on Deontay Wilder and his fans constant lies. (the video in its entirety). Lets see who is the most believable.
Why do I have a feeling AJ will do a stint in prison over a rape charge because his promoter fails miserably to provide an adequate legal defense team
Wilder fights his leftovers
AJ gets out after 4 years to finally fight Fury only to lose back to back
Wilder out points and beats Fury
And then years will roll by where they will finally stop avoiding each other as an ageing Wilder reaching his peak batters and stops a washed up AJ
Wilder fans have a strange imagination and obviously a lot of extra time on their hands.
Now that this fight is a go(so far), I think they shouldn't even mention Hearn or Joshua. Show it's all about them and give Joshua no attention at all.
How do you expect them to promote the fight or themselves, for that matter, without mentioning Hearn or Joshua? This is all about one upping Hearn and Joshua. Without that aspect there is no way to sell this fight. Facts!
Ok, so directly after the fight he says that "no one" is getting in touch..
And then not even 4 days later he is saying that conversations have been going on for weeks behind the scenes?
But you're telling me you think I might have missed the part where he said that Wilder has three different managers that don't work well with each other....
What does that have to do with him saying "NO ONE" is getting in touch one day, and conversations have been going on behind the scenes for weeks days later??
Does the term "no one" suddenly mean, 2 of 3? or maybe 1 of 3 ? Tell me what that term means in Hearn talk, please.
I don't know about Hearn talk but I can speak common sense. He is saying that he is the one reaching out to them and that Deontay Wilder is either lying or being misinformed when he says that his people have been trying to contact Hearn to make the fight and that Hearn won't "pick up the phone". Like sands in an hour glass, these are the days of our lives. This whole he said she said soap opera is really trivial and feminine in nature. Boxing gossip is no different than any other kind of gossip. At the end of the day none of us know who is telling the truth. Anything either of us say about who is lying and who is telling the truth is speculation at best. And it looks like the whole war of words is coming to an end. Deontay Wilder has pretty much stopped trashing Joshua and is now just focusing on making the fight.
After the Joshua v Parker fight, Hearn was interviewed in the following video..
" EDDIE HEARN "TIRED OF" DEONTAY WILDER "BOLLOCKS"; CLAIMS NO ONE IS GETTING IN TOUCH, NO OFFERS" Just google that phrase, you will find the video.
In it he flat out says "no one is getting in touch" from Denotay's side.
Now in this article he says "Conversations have been going on for the last few weeks behind the scenes,”
What am I missing here?
I mean, how can nobody be getting in touch, when the sole reason you are calling Shelly Finkel pet names is because he brought to the light that he HAD reached out to you and never heard anything back??
I think you might have missed the part where he said that Wilder has three different managers that don't work well with each other. He also said that he has been talking to Al Haymon's people and would rather not deal with Shelly Finkel. I don't see the contradiction. To me it sounds like the fight could get made.
But that's my point, he is saying mandatories might stop the fight happening later, which is complete bs as the Alphabets will be flexible, both sooner and later.
I'm reading this as him arguing why, when he doesn't make the fight sooner, he can't make it later either because of mandatories.
No he said that if they wait til after early next year that it likely won't be for all of the belts meaning that Joshua would probably have to vacate at least one of his titles for skipping a mandatory to promote a fight with Wilder. The conspiracy theories are so eerily similar to the Pacquiao fan conspiracy theories about Mayweather its amazing. This is getting bad. At least the racial tension isn't going to be a part of the build up for this fight. That's the only good thing about this crazy back and forth that is brewing.
I can't believe that this is still going on. Lies and the media go hand in hand. Why is boxingscene publishing articles written by a promoter in the first place? It kind of gives you an idea of why this 50 million dollar hoax "offer"/ultimatum gets so much airtime around here.
Wilder gave Fury a shot at the title. so now we should see the rematch in the UK! Joshua gave Wilder a flat-fee offer and swerves the fight, even turned down a $50 million dollar offer! He didn't even think Fury was a worthy opponent even though Fury was the lineal champion! Joshua didn't fight Ortiz, even when he was at MatchRoom! I bet he regrets not facing the best of the best, now let him prove himself by fighting Ortiz! Wilder and Fury have unfinished business!
There was a never a 50 million dollar offer. There was just a 50 million dollar publicity stunt.
It's so strange how the media loves false narratives so much. There's not a single sensible person who pays attention that doesn't see that neither one of these guys wants to fight Joshua
Well if that's what makes you sleep better, have at it. I heard it and so did all the journalist that publicized it. Nobody will be quoting what you think you heard but cheers...
:Flush::beerchug::loser:
We all heard the same thing. Its just that I am telling the truth while you and the dishonest journalists are lying.
Is a racist accusation coming from the hypocrite who echoed these words to Manny Pacquiao? "As soon as we come off vacation, we’re going to cook that little yellow chump … Once I kick the midget ass, I don’t want you all to jump on my d---. So you all better get on the bandwagon now ... Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice … we’re going to cook him with some cats and dogs.”
Yeah Floyd, dance for McGregor boy.
He said little young chump not little yellow chump...
Andre Ward uses MMA tactics illegal in boxing and other dirty stuff.
Why doesn't Teddy complain about that?
Because Teddy Atlas isn't interested in parroting the sentiments of biased fans.
Same pac fans who hyped up Algieri prior to facing Manny are now sh-tting on him.
He tall doe
He a slick boxer doe
He beat Provodnikov doe
But now khan fights him and Algieri is the biggest bum on earth. Smh, pitiful fans.
After Pacquiao, Khan is the most worthy and accomplished fighter left for Floyd to face. And stylistically he will present problems. Why do people refuse to acknowledge Khan is skilled.
Khan style will present more problems for Floyd than Thurman, Brook or Porter. Those guys will look like robots in quicksand against Floyd.
People say he's picking on junior welters. Isn't that what Mannys been doing with Rios and Algieri.
The only other fighter that would be a style nightmare for Floyd is GGG at 160. But we know that's not happening.
We all know what "style nightmare" means when people start talking about Mayweather fighting Golovkin. Humongous size advantage...
Floyd's motivated by money more than anything else. There's (most likely) more cash in a rematch with Manny than any other fight.
I think he really wants to finish out his career strong. And unifying the division for the first time in forever would give him the strong finish he talks about. IMO.
How is that guaranteed? I've heard no such talk from the mayweather camp.
That's my opinion. And it makes sense. It has absolutely nothing to do with talk from the Mayweather camp. They're not talking about any opponent other than Pacquiao.
If Khan is a nobody hype job, what does that Make Maidana, Ortiz and Guerrero? All Chino did to earn a shot was beat the bum Broner, and Ortiz/ Guerrero both beat Berto to get Floyd..
Khan beats Collazo, who's arguably better than Broner. Then destroys Alexander, a guy that schooled Maidana. And you telling me he doesn't deserve the Floyd fight based on that alone?
And oh yeah, Khan beat Maidana way more convincing than Floyd did, only losing three of the late rounds. And everybody knows he was robbed against Peterson.
How is he not worthy, but Maidana, Ortiz, Guerrero are?
Yea he got KOd by Garcia, but KOs happen (ask Manny who's been knocked out three times) and Manny fans always say well prior to the KO Pac was dominating. Same with Khan, before the KO he was whipping Garcia like a step child.
Dude. Broner was the legitimate WBA welter weight champion. Maidana is a two division former world champion. Ortiz was the WBC welter weight champion. Guerrero was Mayweather's mandatory and also a multi division world champion. Collazo was coming off of a long hiatus. And Alexander was coming off of a loss. There is no comparison.
Pacquiao was not dominating Marquez before he got knocked out. He had already been dropped clean in the third round of that fight. And Khan was definitely not dominating Garcia before he got knocked out. Explain all of the counter right hooks that he had already caught Khan with before he eventually knocked him out with the same punch. And Garcia had excellent defense that night also. Khan may have been ahead in the fight but he was far from whipping anyone. That's just an excuse to make his fans feel better. Same with Pacquiao. The proof is in the pudding.