Comments Thread For: Hearn: Expect Wilder-Breazeale, His Managers Dislike Each Other

Ok, so directly after the fight he says that "no one" is getting in touch.. And then not even 4 days later he is saying that conversations have been going on for weeks behind the scenes? But you're telling me you think I might have missed the part where he said that Wilder has three different managers that don't work well with each other.... What does that have to do with him saying "NO ONE" is getting in touch one day, and conversations have been going on behind the scenes for weeks days later?? Does the term "no one" suddenly mean, 2 of 3? or maybe 1 of 3 ? Tell me what that term means in Hearn talk, please. I don't know about Hearn talk but I can speak common sense. He is saying that he is the one reaching out to them and that Deontay Wilder is either lying or being misinformed when he says that his people have been trying to contact Hearn to make the fight and that Hearn won't "pick up the phone". Like sands in an hour glass, these are the days of our lives. This whole he said she said soap opera is really trivial and feminine in nature. Boxing gossip is no different than any other kind of gossip. At the end of the day none of us know who is telling the truth. Anything either of us say about who is lying and who is telling the truth is speculation at best. And it looks like the whole war of words is coming to an end. Deontay Wilder has pretty much stopped trashing Joshua and is now just focusing on making the fight.

Alabama fraud run as fast as he can. Grow some balls Deontay and fight AJ already, no more ducking you coward!

I think you might have missed the part where he said that Wilder has three different managers that don't work well with each other. He also said that he has been talking to Al Haymon's people and would rather not deal with Shelly Finkel. I don't see the contradiction. To me it sounds like the fight could get made. Ok, so directly after the fight he says that "no one" is getting in touch.. And then not even 4 days later he is saying that conversations have been going on for weeks behind the scenes? But you're telling me you think I might have missed the part where he said that Wilder has three different managers that don't work well with each other.... What does that have to do with him saying "NO ONE" is getting in touch one day, and conversations have been going on behind the scenes for weeks days later?? Does the term "no one" suddenly mean, 2 of 3? or maybe 1 of 3 ? Tell me what that term means in Hearn talk, please.

Not sure why they don't want this fight? They have just as much a chance with boxing skill, negating Wilder's right as Wilder has with landing the shots. It's 50/50. Just go for it.

Hearn gives no indication that he's actually pushing hard for this fight - at all. Now this time his foolish speculations & mando talk take center stage! Truth is, Hearn can get this done, he's more than capable. If Mayweather can call out an MMA fighter and get a deal done, so can Hearn against Wilder! Hearn has the clout along with that hypnotic effect over Joshua fans! He has the UK on absolute lock with his prized possession....and he knows it. Mandatories always take a back seat to great fights.....all this mando stuff figures itself out after the dust clears from a great fight.....the sanctioning bodies arent some picture of moral perfection making sure rankings are correct. Mayweather eventually didnt give a damn about belts and so should Joshua.... Hearns tactics are just plain pathetic now, he simply doesnt want his fighter to lose. He's buying time to set something up for AJ, while hoping Wilder loses along the way! His greedy control on UK boxing is now 2nd to none and I'm looking forward to his golden goose fall because of that... Its just reminiscent of greed & corruption with no one being able to do anything about it - no repercussions. The luster of AJs champion status is now DULL. He' s no real champion now if he ducks so blatantly following his master - he's a decorated scaredy cat.

But that's my point, he is saying mandatories might stop the fight happening later, which is complete bs as the Alphabets will be flexible, both sooner and later. I'm reading this as him arguing why, when he doesn't make the fight sooner, he can't make it later either because of mandatories. No he said that if they wait til after early next year that it likely won't be for all of the belts meaning that Joshua would probably have to vacate at least one of his titles for skipping a mandatory to promote a fight with Wilder. The conspiracy theories are so eerily similar to the Pacquiao fan conspiracy theories about Mayweather its amazing. This is getting bad. At least the racial tension isn't going to be a part of the build up for this fight. That's the only good thing about this crazy back and forth that is brewing.

After the Joshua v Parker fight, Hearn was interviewed in the following video.. " EDDIE HEARN "TIRED OF" DEONTAY WILDER "BOLLOCKS"; CLAIMS NO ONE IS GETTING IN TOUCH, NO OFFERS" Just google that phrase, you will find the video. In it he flat out says "no one is getting in touch" from Denotay's side. Now in this article he says "Conversations have been going on for the last few weeks behind the scenes,” What am I missing here? I mean, how can nobody be getting in touch, when the sole reason you are calling Shelly Finkel pet names is because he brought to the light that he HAD reached out to you and never heard anything back?? I think you might have missed the part where he said that Wilder has three different managers that don't work well with each other. He also said that he has been talking to Al Haymon's people and would rather not deal with Shelly Finkel. I don't see the contradiction. To me it sounds like the fight could get made.

After the Joshua v Parker fight, Hearn was interviewed in the following video.. " EDDIE HEARN "TIRED OF" DEONTAY WILDER "BOLLOCKS"; CLAIMS NO ONE IS GETTING IN TOUCH, NO OFFERS" Just google that phrase, you will find the video. In it he flat out says "no one is getting in touch" from Denotay's side. Now in this article he says "Conversations have been going on for the last few weeks behind the scenes,” What am I missing here? I mean, how can nobody be getting in touch, when the sole reason you are calling Shelly Finkel pet names is because he brought to the light that he HAD reached out to you and never heard anything back?? “Conversations have been going on for the last few weeks behind the scenes,” he said. “Now we have got Saturday out of the way, they can continue.'' - Eddie Hearns. Hearns has exposed himself AGAIN as a liar, he said that Wilders team have not approached him for months, but now they been in talks? This clearly contradicts what he told the British public last Saturday in the post fight interview : how does he know all these details if hes not in contact? Now, I'm going to acknowledge that its rather suspicious that Breazeale did pull out of the IBF eliminator, so you have to question the motive: a) he probably likes his spot as the WBC contender -- the World Boxing Council could call for Breazeale vs. Whyte in a final eliminator. b) If both sides ( Wilder-Joshua) can not come to an agreement, then as Deontay said Breazeale can get the opportunity. Nice try Eddie. He's a fucking clown, and definitely doesn't want to make the fight yet. Some are too blind to see it though.

Not overly sure why you're arguing with Hearn's viewpoint there? He isn't saying mandatories are stopping the fight from happening; he's saying the fight has to happen sooner rather than later because of mandatories coming up... isn't that what we all want? But that's my point, he is saying mandatories might stop the fight happening later, which is complete bs as the Alphabets will be flexible, both sooner and later. I'm reading this as him arguing why, when he doesn't make the fight sooner, he can't make it later either because of mandatories.

“Really, if we don’t make this fight by the end of 2018, or by January/February 2019 at the very latest, it can’t happen for all of the belts because the mandatories will be due. Hearn knows full well the sanctioning bodies are as flexible as they want to be, and will stick with whatever situation maximises their sanctioning fees, and that's Joshua. Mandatories can be negotiated away or delayed easily if it suits the Alphabets. Hearn will use the mandatories only to claim fights 'must be made for mandatory reasons', aka 'we can't fight Wilder right now because of a mandatory requirement that we can't get out of'. Reality is he could delay any mandatory simply by asking, and he knows this full well. Not overly sure why you're arguing with Hearn's viewpoint there? He isn't saying mandatories are stopping the fight from happening; he's saying the fight has to happen sooner rather than later because of mandatories coming up... isn't that what we all want?

This crossed my mind too. I didn't go back to check something else Hearn said, but it was something along the lines of 'we want to make the fight but no-one has called us yet', and I only remember it as it was the 'boxing phones only work in one direction' issue. Now we hear discussions have been going on behind closed doors - so there is an 'alternative fact' in there somewhere. Promoters are born liars and they are the human equivalent of bloodsuckers.....but we really don't know who is talking to who. For all we know one is playing devils advocate the other is holy as hell and i believe both fighters want it but its all about control. We will see if it gets announced in a month or so......i hope so because its the best fight in boxing at the moment

Do we always believe what promoters say and if thats all you meant then i was wrong fella. Between me and you hearn is one smarmy prick but he has always delivered the big fights and he has done that with a number of his biggest fighters..even did it with brook vs spence and golovkin which was almost certain to end in defeat for brook and he also did it with linares vs crolla and joshua and klitscko when joshua was still gaining his stripes. Don't be surprised in a month or so he announces the joshua wilder fight so i am willing to at least wait a few weeks to see if he delivers. I hope the fight gets made because its a waste if either fighter loses against other opponents. With a rematch between the two we are talking mega bucks for both fighters so hearn is a mug if that slips through his fingers I hope the fight happens as well. I'm not expecting it to get announced in the next couple weeks but i'd like to see that both sides want and are working toward it as opposed to Hearn saying things contrary to it and it not happening because he didn't want it to happen now. If that's the case just come out and say it, he doesn't need to pretend like it't the other side not wanting the fight if he wants to get another fight in before then. I know Joshua will fight Wilder no problem(I also think he beats Deontay), but Hearn on the other hand seems to want to make it look like he wants the fight when he isn't too keen on it happening next and would rather hold it off for another year.

Smh, dude I said his fans want the fight. I said Hearn just exposed himself in the article when he said he has been talking to Wilder's team when just a week or so prior he said they weren't talking at all. That's literally all my original post said, how you got anything outside of that is beyond me as that's all I wrote. The fact this has to be explained is mind boggling Do we always believe what promoters say and if thats all you meant then i was wrong fella. Between me and you hearn is one smarmy prick but he has always delivered the big fights and he has done that with a number of his biggest fighters..even did it with brook vs spence and golovkin which was almost certain to end in defeat for brook and he also did it with linares vs crolla and joshua and klitscko when joshua was still gaining his stripes. Don't be surprised in a month or so he announces the joshua wilder fight so i am willing to at least wait a few weeks to see if he delivers. I hope the fight gets made because its a waste if either fighter loses against other opponents. With a rematch between the two we are talking mega bucks for both fighters so hearn is a mug if that slips through his fingers

Smh, dude I said his fans want the fight. I said Hearn just exposed himself in the article when he said he has been talking to Wilder's team when just a week or so prior he said they weren't talking at all. This crossed my mind too. I didn't go back to check something else Hearn said, but it was something along the lines of 'we want to make the fight but no-one has called us yet', and I only remember it as it was the 'boxing phones only work in one direction' issue. Now we hear discussions have been going on behind closed doors - so there is an 'alternative fact' in there somewhere.

“Really, if we don’t make this fight by the end of 2018, or by January/February 2019 at the very latest, it can’t happen for all of the belts because the mandatories will be due. Hearn knows full well the sanctioning bodies are as flexible as they want to be, and will stick with whatever situation maximises their sanctioning fees, and that's Joshua. Mandatories can be negotiated away or delayed easily if it suits the Alphabets. Hearn will use the mandatories only to claim fights 'must be made for mandatory reasons', aka 'we can't fight Wilder right now because of a mandatory requirement that we can't get out of'. Reality is he could delay any mandatory simply by asking, and he knows this full well.

Fake beef which means its diving time for Dom. Tired tired tired of this sh*t. Why Why Why?

You insuating that wilders fans just want the fight and dont want lies.....how can you possibly be lieing when its so soon after his last defence so i am also responding to you with how you wrote this post. If in a months time hearn creates a roadblock and go's in another direction other than wilder who has accepted his challenge then i along with you will bay for hearns head n a chopping block but after 4 days give me break gumbo Smh, dude I said his fans want the fight. I said Hearn just exposed himself in the article when he said he has been talking to Wilder's team when just a week or so prior he said they weren't talking at all. That's literally all my original post said, how you got anything outside of that is beyond me as that's all I wrote. The fact this has to be explained is mind boggling

God this boxing business/politics crap is getting ridiculous! Don't these guys want to go down as legends!? Remember when the best used to fight the best and boxers weren't greedy f**ks or ducks? Maaaaaaaan

Just make the fight between WILDER and JOSHUA mr. HEARN. don't worry about Breazeale. Stop assuming you know whats going on in Wilders camp and that they are looking to fight Breazeale next. you HOPE they want to fight him next smh. OUt here making my boy AJ look like a punk ducker and his "other" fans are ok with it. Casuals disguised as real fans are trying to kill my sport Nice deflection moron. The cowardly turd wilder set to fight brazil after spouting crap for months now. Thats all wilder is = talk. He wants a body on his resume, he wants to kill a man in the ring, what better way to do that than to get back to fighting your bums after stepping up ONCE and once only in your rotten sham career. BUMSQUAD!!

Please show me where in my post I said anything about the fight being made a few days after the fight, I'll wait. :lol1: and you had the nerve to call somebody stupid:lol1: I told you the reason why Wilder fans were "butthurt" as you put it. Go back and read what I posted, slower this time though so you don't hurt yourself. You insuating that wilders fans just want the fight and dont want lies.....how can you possibly be lieing when its so soon after his last defence so i am also responding to you with how you wrote this post. If in a months time hearn creates a roadblock and go's in another direction other than wilder who has accepted his challenge then i along with you will bay for hearns head n a chopping block but after 4 days give me break gumbo