ANTHONY JOSHUA made a massive mistake when he turned down more than 60m for two fights with Deontay Wilder last year. Now, the WBA, IBF, IBO and WBO champion will be looking on enviously as he sits in Tyson Fury's slipstream. Talks are continuing for Fury to face WBC champion Deontay Wilder in a rematch later this year, while Joshua's promoter Eddie Hearn is busy making what I would call derisory offers to both men. Click Here To Read More]
Do you think he is far off then?
It's not for me to speculate. I don't care what grown men make, but I'm not going to just take a guess with absolutely no proof like he did and call it factual.
Oh for the love of god shut up Frank
He made more for Povetkin than Fury and Wilder made combined fighting each other and he'll probably make more again fighting whyte
Then the winner of Fury and Wilder will have only one place to go and thats to AJ, and the loser will go to the back of the queue
Warren once again more interested in **** talking a rival fighter who never feels the need to tear down warren or his fighters, than promoting his own fighters.
just shut the **** up
I agree!!! After all we all know it's only about money if it was who was the better fighter we can all agree that Joshua is the best fighter in England and will continue to be so as long as opponents are carefully screened and venue, ring size and officials are all controlled by Joshua's team! Speaking of Joshua's taem they are amazing!! Look how they've carefully avoided and real threats and I love how they fill the press with baloney as to how they want this fighter or that fighter while making sure any offer made publicly is low enough to ensure it's rejected. What's next for Joshua? Maybe a rematch with an even older Klitchko, should be safe and OH! how he can brag after the win unless Klitchko hits him early this time before the old man gases out. Yup! Joshua is a media sensation!
IT'S ALL ABOUT POWER
Warren uses Tyson Fury (it's all he has) like a club to beat on Hearn. Al Haymon doesn't want to let go of Wilder and Hearn intends to force others to acknowledge AJ as the A side.
Oh for the love of god shut up Frank
He made more for Povetkin than Fury and Wilder made combined fighting each other and he'll probably make more again fighting whyte
Then the winner of Fury and Wilder will have only one place to go and thats to AJ, and the loser will go to the back of the queue
Warren once again more interested in **** talking a rival fighter who never feels the need to tear down warren or his fighters, than promoting his own fighters.
just shut the **** up
Excellent, very honest post.
I will say that it was a good job by Fury. I still support my fighters after losses. I know that the fight will happen, but it won't be next. I'm happy that Wilder will get what he deserves in the fight rather than to take the relative crumbs that Hearn has previously offered.
I will award you green k for your response but when we beat you and I hear you start whinging you will get some red Fury..... you have been warned:439:
Ok and collectively fury and wilder managed to draw aj’s purse against povetkin. It’s funny how American posters are trying to paint a picture that aj is irrelevant but he can single handidly outdraw those who think they deserve a 50/50 split
AJ as a boxing talent is certainly relevant and to Fury and Wilder a threat as well. He though is currently not relevant to their ability to make decent money fighting other fighters rather than Joshua. What is going on is a power struggle on the business end of things and has nothing to do with who actually should be fighting who.
As an American I do not want to see Joshua frozen out of a truly meaningful fight with both Fury and Wilder. However I can understand those who feel that way because of the Way Hearn treated Wilder in his dealings with him. Hopefully all of the hurt feelings and spiteful actions and reactions can be set aside for what is the best for all concerned.
Well said pal. To be frank Wilder and Fury will have a rematch it’s a great fight so I have no complaints but I’m just questioning why Wilder is so insistent on the rematch. If it was really about running it back to make a wrong , right I can respect that but it’s not that.
AJ will fight whoever and earn 20 million. As a fan I want to see him in the big fights but even when Wilder and Fury fight fans will demand that the winner takes on Joshua so it’s not really a big deal.
Not to mention if Joshua is really scared it has worked out perfectly then.
The only person that is suffering is me . I don’t want to see him fight Whyte ,it’s a formality fight. I would rather see him fight Ortiz. Make an example out of him. Maybe have Whyte vs Breazeale as a co main event. That will get 100,000 into Wembley.
Or the unthinkable Wilder vs Fury at Wembley, whytevs Brezeale co main event April 13th
First of all, the main issue here is Wilder
Fury, he's a different case and I suspect that would be a LOT easier of a fight to make than the one with Wilder
but they are focused on Wilder because he's got a belt and has the history
Well, Wilder already LOST to Fury and if he loses again his "legacy" will be a guy who beat 39 bums and one 40 year old cuban and got schooled twice by Fury
So Wilder can crow all he wants but lets face facts he's on VERY thin ice right now in terms of his career.
If Fury schools wilder again, then everyone forgets about him, and I think AJ vs Fury WILL happen in the second half of the year for undisputed.
That's why i'm saying wilder needs to stop talking trash and consider his options right now, because he showed very little in the first fight to convince me he can do any better let alone actually BEAT a fury who will be a lot closer to his best shape in the rematch
You make some great points especially how Wilder's star would be dimmed by a loss to Joshua, especially if it was a bad loss. The truth though is in the world of boxing and the way promotions are presented Wilder can make a lot of money without ever facing Joshua. It wouldn't be the kind of money per fight as a Joshua fight would be but it would be the less risky route to take, similar to the path Hearn has had Joshua on.
yes because he doesn't NEED them
More money + 75% of the belts = why should he bend over and take it up the ass from them?
It makes NO sense to do that, that's why he isn't even talking about it yet they are both on a relentless PR campaign against him
As a FAN I want him to offer wilder 50/50 and go to alabama and knock the absoloute **** out of him in front of his hometown fans, then get on the mic and call them a bunch of hilbily trash, and that america sucks dick at heavyweight boxing.
As a LOGICAL person i fully understand why he doesn't do that when life changing sums of money are on the line.
Also I'm sure that as a logical person you wouldn't want to start something that might come back to bite you in the ass.
American Fans would rather see AJ frozen out than their champion challenge for the undisputed..... Firstly Wilderlites complained about the derisory offer( which in fairness was) However, now that there is a good offer on the table even though Wilder fans know Wilder lost his last fight they would rather set their sights on becoming the Lineal.
I understand Winkle not responding to Hearn butAj has Deontay’s personal number and has reached out and Wilder is not responding. That female s#hit. Wilder is right Americans are sensitive I just didn’t want to believe him
As an American I do not want to see Joshua frozen out of a truly meaningful fight with both Fury and Wilder. However I can understand those who feel that way because of the Way Hearn treated Wilder in his dealings with him. Hopefully all of the hurt feelings and spiteful actions and reactions can be set aside for what is the best for all concerned.
So if Fury beats him in the rematch what will you have to say for yourself?
As a Wilder fan you are happier him snubbing AJ instead of him being potentially undisputed? Each to their own I hope everything works out for you but I don’t want to hear you crying on the forum because I will tell you I told you so
I will say that it was a good job by Fury. I still support my fighters after losses. I know that the fight will happen, but it won't be next. I'm happy that Wilder will get what he deserves in the fight rather than to take the relative crumbs that Hearn has previously offered.
I don't know that Haymon is paying more than Hearn, and I don't know that Whyte could make more than what Hearn is offering, because I don't know what Hearn or Haymon is paying their fighters! Even Whyte wouldn't reveal what he was actually offered, and he said "he can't reveal" what Hearn has offered! He did say the offer was less than what he was paid for Chisora! Hearn said he offered Khan "double" the Arum offer! Khan says the offers were the same! Someone is lying! BTW, according to Jacobs, Haymon is still his adviser!
He also says he's earning more and feeling happier with Matchroom than ever before in his career.
Why does it matter that PBC fighters have turned down Hearn? Just because Haymon pays some of his guys more than Hearn offered them means nothing. They aren't Dillian Whyte.
Danny Jacobs says he's earning more with Matchroom than he was earning with PBC, but that doesn't matter either, because Jacobs isn't Dillian Whyte.
I'm sure Haymon isn't going to pay Dillian more for Breazeale or Ortiz than he would get for fighting AJ, and he can't offer him a shot at 3 world title belts either.
Whyte said, out of his own mouth, in an interview 2 days ago, that he blames AJ for what he thinks is a lowball offer and there is no problem between him and Eddie.I don't know that Haymon is paying more than Hearn, and I don't know that Whyte could make more than what Hearn is offering, because I don't know what Hearn or Haymon is paying their fighters! Even Whyte wouldn't reveal what he was actually offered, and he said "he can't reveal" what Hearn has offered! He did say the offer was less than what he was paid for Chisora! Hearn said he offered Khan "double" the Arum offer! Khan says the offers were the same! Someone is lying! BTW, according to Jacobs, Haymon is still his adviser!
Wilder has been addressed that the offer was terrible and that it was a slave contract. If matchroom was serious they would've had a date and venue like they did on Povetkin's contract. And when millions of dollars are involved it's not JUST a fight, and AJ is being humbled and disciplined outside the ring right now. After he waits his turn, and the Fury saga is complete, he will be humbled inside the ring as well.
So if Fury beats him in the rematch what will you have to say for yourself?
As a Wilder fan you are happier him snubbing AJ instead of him being potentially undisputed? Each to their own I hope everything works out for you but I don’t want to hear you crying on the forum because I will tell you I told you so
Everyone keeps saying that! Yet, I read Khan shoot that down this morning, Whyte is making visits to PBC functions, and Ortiz already left! Plenty of PBC fighters have turned down Hearn too! Somebody is lying! I don't know who, but somebody has to be lying!
Why does it matter that PBC fighters have turned down Hearn? Just because Haymon pays some of his guys more than Hearn offered them means nothing. They aren't Dillian Whyte.
Danny Jacobs says he's earning more with Matchroom than he was earning with PBC, but that doesn't matter either, because Jacobs isn't Dillian Whyte.
I'm sure Haymon isn't going to pay Dillian more for Breazeale or Ortiz than he would get for fighting AJ, and he can't offer him a shot at 3 world title belts either.
Whyte said, out of his own mouth, in an interview 2 days ago, that he blames AJ for what he thinks is a lowball offer and there is no problem between him and Eddie.
Quick question, the offer was so bad he agreed to it on social media? This is why I was convinced Team Wilder had no intentions in signing the fight that is why they were procrastinating. Now it was a derisory offer there is no denying that and his team would have been doing him a huge disservice if they followed through which actually signing the fight. Yet all Wilder fans believe he wanted to sign and AJ ran off to fight Povetkin? If you do cool there is no changing your mind at this late stage.
I thought unifications trump mandatory that’s what most of you were saying about Povetkin yet Wilder will be stripped..lol( he shouldn’t have the belt in the first place)
Do you think if Tyson beats Wilder again in the rematch Wilder will rue this opportunity? I’ve got nothing against Wilder if he beats AJ I will take all your taunts happily congratulate you and admit I couldn’t see Wilder doing it. It’s just a bloody fight ,what’s all this a southerner never forgets. He will receive double than he has ever made in his life and potentially to be undisputed. Humble and discipline him in the ring if you are really offended.
Wilder has been addressed that the offer was terrible and that it was a slave contract. If matchroom was serious they would've had a date and venue like they did on Povetkin's contract. And when millions of dollars are involved it's not JUST a fight, and AJ is being humbled and disciplined outside the ring right now. After he waits his turn, and the Fury saga is complete, he will be humbled inside the ring as well.
Lol no hostility I just think if he goes what’s bad about that? I don’t think there is a single promoter that I have not enjoyed the fights that they have put out.Well, let's just say, it's not a good look! Ortiz and Whyte? And Fury turned him down too? I don't think Hearn wants that! He might want to talk the Diva! You know, sweeten the deal just a little!