0 unification fight
didn't face lot of top 10 in the divisions where he was world champion
his title fights :
genaro hernandez = was talking retirement a long time before this fight
castillo = barely won , nothing impressive
arturo gatti = enough said
judah / baldomir = the fist coming from a loss , the second had 12 losses in his career
de la hoya = 8 years past his prime
one word = forgettable
It's ridiculous that there isn't any roof in that newly build stadium.
it's a specific soccer stadium
soccer is played in any weather , they don't need a roof
hes just from the streets and favors black people over any other race.
thank you , you just gave the definition of racism
and the president is not black , but let's follow your logic, let's just ignore that he was born from a white uterus , grew up with a non black father figure, raised in hawai where there are very few black people , and then in south east asia where there are even less black people ,and then went on to live in white suburbia and study in harvard ( again , almost no black people )
bi-racial people=/= black people
period
Just curious paypayvay are you black, white, or other?
i'm a white person , who believes that bernard hopkins hates white people
and i guess his appreciation towards andre ward will stop once he learns that he's a result of a white pepe going in a black V
lol yeah mixed people tend to be good looking people (no homo, of course), and are usually very popular.
i don't get the whole mixed race people nuthugging in the uk
That's his girlfriend. The wife is white :P
don't think so ,
he's been married to the same woman for like 20 years, and this photo was taken when he was undisputed champion , so this is his wife
It works like this. if you got 25% or 50% black then you = Black
Nobody says Obama is white, they say he is black, even tho he is 50/50.
I think its because once you ruin the talent pool you can never claim to be white?
Here we call em Mutts or Molato's .
I know someone 25% Native 25% Black 25% White 25% Asian
only in the us
in brazil , for example PRETO ( black ) and pardo ( brown ) are considered two different races
I said i didnt think he was a hardcore racist and admitted he favored black people..and besides what you think the President is black..everyone in America is quick to label him that..his father is Nigerian which is the most widely spread group of Africans ive interacted with in my life within the States. He is heavily supported by the Black community and heckled by alot of white supremecists and good ole boys.
I remember my soph yr in college when the election was coming to an end on campus so many white students would openly talk about how they hated Obama. After he became President I remember alot of those same students talking about how he was half white and saying the same stuff you just said..so its omay for him to get hate for being a black man but can only recieve love as a white president?
Youre not black and youre not mixed..but thanks for sharing your opinion
nigerian ? you're telling me you don't know the nationality of the president's father ? :la:
he was kenyan bro
Then he is wrong, look up the ring magazine belt and you'll see what I mean.
Tonights fight, the ring belt will be on the line because vlad is the ring champ and Haye is 3rd in the rankings(exception clause exploited due to the 2nd ranked fighter being vitali who will never fight vlad because they're bro's)
But say the ring champ, any division would take a relatively easy fight and fight someone outside the top 3 or below then the ring wouldn't recognize the fight as "being up for grabs"
THEREFORE THE RING BELT IS NOT UP FOR GRABS EVERYTIME THE RING CHAMP FIGHTS, ONLY IF THE CHAMP IS FIGHTING THE NUMBER 2 RANKED FIGHTER OR IN SOME CASES(tonight) THE NUMBER 3 RANKED
NO , that's how you win a vacant ring belt , not how you defend it
joe calzaghe was not even a ranked light heavyweight when he took the title from hopkins
Incorrect, the ring magazine belt is only up for grabs when the top 2 fighters in each division square off, sometimes there's an exception if no.1 and no.3 fight. That's why the term "Lineal" is always associated with the ring belt
wTF ?
wlad is already the champion , that's why the title is on the line , and that's what he meant
He said the title is on the line everytime the champion fights, this isn't true. If vlad was fighting audley Harrison then the ring belt wouldn't be up for grabs due to audley being ranked so low, In the unlikely event that the low ranked fighter actually winning then the ring belt would just become vacant.
So........
The belt is NOT up for grabs everytime the champ fights, which is what I was saying in the original post
by " the champ " he meant the ring magazine champ , in this case it's wlad, everytime the ring magazine champion fights, his title is on the line . that's what he said
i don't understand why the ibo is in the mix , who gives a sh*t about that shi**y belt ? why do fighters keep supporting these organizations by paying them their money ? i don't get it
And pac fighting his leftovers is more memorable?............Gotcha!
you got **** ,this is not about pacquiao
this is about mayweather vs old time boxers
Didnt Pacquiao fight Delahoya when he was in his prime????? Oh I forgot Delahoya was 9 to 10 years out of his prime when Pacquiao fought him.
where did you see the name pacquiao in my post ?
we all agree that pacquiao's last fights are rubbish , that's not the point of the thread
Klit fans are not going to like the realization that even Wlads trainer thinks he's fought a bunch of stiff and the divisions sucks. Im not say Wlad is a bad fighter, but Steward speaks the truth.
chagaev > haye , period
He is not first ballot,who did he really beat,a prime judah is his biggest win,and he lost to Hatton who is not top class.
was past his prime when he lost to hatton
beat all the guys in his division
you can say the same thing about tyson , who did he beat ? nobody , and he got KTFO'D by a nobody in his prime
Widely suspected homosexual muhammad ali was a joke. I love Ali fans coming here saying that the Solis win should have been a NC. Have they ever watched their retarded, shaking, cowardly heroes number 1 fight, his joke against Sonny Liston? Vitali hit Solis with a shot 10x harder than the jab that felled the greatest cruiserweight of all time whose fights were probably all rigged. Also, Ali fans and haters in general who say Vitali was losing. So in the first 2 minutes and 45 seconds of a fight, a notorious slow starter who has won a higher percentage of fights by late KO than any champion ever, whose durability and stamina are legendary and who also at 39, like many aged fighters takes a bit of time to get into their groove, had landed more punches, and had controlled the round by chasing Solis, an inexperienced, out of shape fighter around the ring. Solis, who in all of his sparring, all of his training, all of the weeks and months of preparation had no signed of a knee injury, suddenly coincides his knee giving away with Vitali landing his signature "Vitali Mindraper".
Look, I get it, Vitali normally never gets touched in his fights, hes that good. He beats people within an inch of their lives and has retired more black guys than menthol lights. I know there is a tendancy when a fighter is dominating, you know, goes 6 years or so without losing a round, to try to look for reasons to give an opponent a round, but Vitali won that fight with ease.
True boxing fans view Vitali as the only underfeated champion to have never been knocked down. He is probably the GOAT. Unless you cheat like Lewis, or Vitali hurts himself, you have no chance.
a racist south african....this is new
they're either drained or just want the money and leave because floyd took all they had.now .
yeah , because we all know floyd got some bone -crushing , career-ruining , brain damaging power :boxing:
floyd didn't beat anyone worthy in all his title fights , an old genaro henrandez ( not that he was a p4p great before that )
barely beat castillo ( and lost the first fight according to some people )
fought arturo the bum gatti instead of kostya for a meaningless alphabet belt
fought zab coming from loss ( zab rarely performs in big fights ,guy lost to clotey for ****'s sake )
fought baldomir who had like 12 losses or something ?
fought de la hoya who was 8 years past his prime
ducked almost every top 10 , and never had a unification fight , while pacquiao was fighting P4p guys one after another ( barrera ,morales , marquez )
so , lol at duckiao
Ali should have been DQ'd vs Henry Cooper in their first fight as smelling salts were illegal in the British Boxing Ring at the time of the fight.
dude , just shup up , that was no KO
Big fail.
But on the other hand I've seen worse things on here from people who are actually supposed to be boxing fans.
example ? ( i'm kinda new here )
Floyd Mayweather does not need to fight Cotto. The guy is a bum, why does Floyd need to fight him? Hes got a better fight with Victor Ortiz to look forward to.
cotto , a bum ? :peeright:
what's the last time you won 4 belts in 3 weight divisions ?