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Not completely sure about Wladimir not avoiding anybody. What happened to a Corrie Sanders rematch? It doesn't matter if it was for a title or not, he should have rematched him. Klitschko probably does have a better record overall than Calzaghe, but Joe was unfortunate that he couldn't get the fights he wanted years ago. It wasn't his fault.

He sounds like an absolute tosser.

Damn tell me it's photoshopped. :lol1: Looks like a white version of that Gabe Brown guy.

lewis is only 6'5 and i've heard that he's even shorter in real life Vitali is legit 6'7 Lennox is a genuine 6'5''. There are lots of pictures that pretty much prove it.

KEN NORTON IS NOW FIGHTING BACK : Former Champ Is Learning to Talk Again After 1986 Car Accident December 26, 1987|RICH ROBERTS | Times Staff Writer When Jackie Norton met her husband Ken on a blind date several years ago, she was pleasantly surprised. "He was not at all what I expected," she says. "Kenny didn't fit the stereotype I thought of a fighter. There's something about a fighter that looks like a fighter." Or walks like a fighter, or talks like a fighter. Hearing that, Norton would get upset. He would challenge her, "What does a fighter look like?" Whatever it is, Jackie still says, "Kenny doesn't have it. He's very sensitive, very shy--and very funny." She speaks in the present tense. After 50 fights--even after that final, 54-second thrashing at the hands of Gerry Cooney in 1981--Norton was still all of those things. He made a clean getaway from the game, his features and his faculties intact. But wait a minute, a stranger might say, what about the slow gait, the slurred speech? Well, life played a very cruel trick on Norton, a blow well below the belt. On the Sunday night of Feb. 23, 1986, Norton's Clenet sports car crashed off the Vermont on-ramp to the Santa Monica Freeway, leaving him with a fractured skull, jaw and leg, and absolutely no recollection of what happened. Investigators determined that neither drugs nor alcohol were involved. Norton was known as not much of a drinker, anyway. For a time, there was speculation that another car had crowded his off the ramp, but there were no witnesses and no evidence of that was ever found. But in one violent instant, his life was changed. "He was well-blessed, up to the accident," Jackie says. "Ken didn't get into boxing for the traditional reasons. He came from an upper-middle class family. He went to college. He got into boxing when he was in the Marines to stay out of Vietnam. "The ironic part is that the blow to the head affected his speech. People think it's from boxing, but it's not." As Norton says, now he talks "how 98% of people expect an ex-fighter to talk." http://articles.latimes.com/1987-12-26/sports/sp-7367_1_fighter

Bit of an irrelevant question, but does anybody know who the referee is?

Vitali is one of those people who is a lot more dangerous when he's angry because it's controlled aggression. He won't just go out there and explode - he's far too experienced and intelligent to do that. But he could well give Chisora a brutal beating.

Klitschko is going to murder him now. Chisora better fight the absolute fight of his life.

In no way do i think that dereck chisora will beat vitali but the fact he isn't scared of him and is coming to fight who was the last heavy that came to fight against vitali Not all of them were scared, it just seems that way sometimes. When you get into the ring and are being beaten with sledgehammer jabs and crosses it is incredibly tough, especially when you can't even hit him. It a suicide mission unless you have intensity, skill and a chin.

That was the guy Briggs beat years ago.

What video are you talking about? Because the one i watched had none of what you just described? Chisora does back away, although I think he is pulled back.

I don't see what the big deal is. Banning it just makes them look boring.

I couldn't care ales weather he will win or not the fact is other boxers will see this and think where is this raw aggression that made vitali who he is no man stands and takes that kind of slap without retaliating vitali isn't the big bad brute hes made out to be. Did he just stand there though? I haven't seen the rest of it. It doesn't matter anyway, Vitali will either KO him or make him suffer and need a visit to the hospital.

You are right in one sense. But you didn't mention that the media beats the living shi.t out of them once they are down. The hype only puts added pressure on the sportsmen and women.

I have. I watched every Povetkin fight since his first. Same with Helenius, Boytsov, Price, Pulev, Chakhkiev and others (most of them not live though). A few days ago I watched the pro debut of Sergey Rozhnov who fought Owen Beck. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=597851&cat=boxer And not the Klitschkos? I'm surprised.

I don't think a prime Tyson would blow Klitschko out of the water by any means. But Tyson's speed would definitely be a big factor. Herbie Hide was able to get a few quick punches in during the first round of their fight and make Klitschko look somewhat slow. Klitschko is very tough though, and he would need to be put under constant pressure. Very tough fight for both.

Wlad hits hard but it's difficult to tell just how hard as he never really unloads. Lewis threw some absolute peaches in his time, like the combo on Rahman and those uppercuts he used to throw. I doubt Klitschko has more power, although he certainly is powerful. I wish he was meaner.

Damn, it looks like this guy has only really lost a couple of times. But still, he should be clearly winning against an old McCall and Toney, not just narrowly winning and then being robbed. He's an awkward fighter, not exciting to watch.

That was funny.

''Oquendo, under compubox numbers, has out thrown and out landed all his opponents in every fight he has lost, and has never lost on press row, writers or TV analysts scorecards. He has only failed to see the final bell twice, and they were by controversial stoppages where he never hit the canvas. David Tua fight was nearly 10 years ago. It is considered by many to be Oquendo's only true loss''. Maybe he really should fight Klitschko. At least Klitschko would actually beat him convincingly, unlike the rest.

Ibeabuchi, from what I have read, was clinically insane. This chisora fella does seem a bit unstable, but there is difference between being a bit mad and thuggish and hearing voices in your head.

Looks like the vid was made in pieces.

She's not hot to forum members who all have supermodel girlfriends and bench press 600lbs. Those types have high standards.

I've had my doubts about Wladimir being clean. Although to be honest, you have to doubt a lot of people out there at the top of their game in all sports.

It just gets boring reading these debates. I don't see why respect cannot be given to both sports. Thr MMA fans seem to be more mature on this subject. Some of you give boxing fans a bad name.

He looked pissed off there.

Too bad when he steps up against anyone in the top 10 he'll get schooled, Chambers, Povetkin, Thompson... they would all beat his ass (maybe he could beat Dimitrenko, maybe). Yeah, those first three would probably beat him. He is still dangerous though. I doubt he can get into decent fighting shape.

The fans lose out in the end because we'll never see him fight a really good heavyweight. We only have the Lennox Lewis fight to look at. There are no Lennox Lewis', Evander Holyfields, Rididick Bowes, Mike Tysons, Larry Holmes', Ike Ibeabuchis, or even a prime McCall. Klitschko is a very good fighter. But there is no one out there to challenge him.

Possibly. But he was always there, ready to unload a big shot. He was pretty much knockout proof. He would have been tougher than any of Vit's opponents besides Lewis.

I've been talking about that Hide fight for years. That's why I thought Gomez would do well. But he was past it.