I see it like this...If Toney goes in there and competes, whether he wins or loses, it's a good look for boxing because he took that risk at going at one of the greatest UFC Fighters ever. Couture is probably Toney's safest fight for his intro but let's be real. You will never see the best or even a mid-level UFC Fighter go to boxing and fight someone like Roy Jones Jr, Antonio Tarver, Jermaine Taylor or even Jeff Lacy in their first ever boxing match. There's no way Dana White will let that happen to any of his fighters. If(that's a big IF) Toney can keep the fight on their feet he has a great chance, but this doesn't look bad for boxing at all. Just my thoughts.
Thts UFC's MO. This time he trained well last time he didn't blah blah blah. There is a video of Chuck Lidells entrances and everytime they say "wow look at Chuck Liddell's stare hes back or some shit"
I see it like this...If Toney goes in there and competes, whether he wins or loses, it's a good look for boxing because he took that risk at going at one of the greatest UFC Fighters ever. Couture is probably Toney's safest fight for his intro but let's be real. You will never see the best or even a mid-level UFC Fighter go to boxing and fight someone like Roy Jones Jr, Antonio Tarver, Jermaine Taylor or even Jeff Lacy in their first ever boxing match. There's no way Dana White will let that happen to any of his fighters. If(that's a big IF) Toney can keep the fight on their feet he has a great chance, but this doesn't look bad for boxing at all. Just my thoughts.
Exactly. No shame in losing as long as you tried.
This fight is complete garbage.
the UFC can produce some really interesting and exciting match ups, but it also has a tendency to recycle its fighters for as long as it can.
Did anyone see when Couture fought Coleman? Coleman is a ****en dinasour and Rogan had the audacity to say that he had never trained correct his entire career and finally did for this fight!!!!
Another example is when Hughes fought one of the Gracie brothers and Hughes carried him the entire fight.
This is just an excuse for White to have another PPV, the UFC seems to have one every other week.
1st mma fight is against coture doesnt make sense at all they are trying to make toney and boxing look less a sport a dont like toney but a do hope he shocks the world when they fight but the reality is he gets took down and pounded out same goes for mayorga
I see it like this...If Toney goes in there and competes, whether he wins or loses, it's a good look for boxing because he took that risk at going at one of the greatest UFC Fighters ever. Couture is probably Toney's safest fight for his intro but let's be real. You will never see the best or even a mid-level UFC Fighter go to boxing and fight someone like Roy Jones Jr, Antonio Tarver, Jermaine Taylor or even Jeff Lacy in their first ever boxing match. There's no way Dana White will let that happen to any of his fighters. If(that's a big IF) Toney can keep the fight on their feet he has a great chance, but this doesn't look bad for boxing at all. Just my thoughts.
have any of you guys even watched couture in his last performances?
-brock excluded ( where for the record he tried to box against )
-he tried to box big nog and was rocked ,
-he was a bit more wrestly against vera, tho more just pushing him up to the cage and dirty boxing.
-and again he stood with coleman and boxed.
I dont think he will outright stand with Toney for the fight, but i doubt itll start and he'll just shoot in for a double leg takedown. He'll most likely stand and try land a jab or two, then try get toney up to the cage and try dirty box.
In summary, I think Randy's punch resistence has deminished in the last few years and if he gets caught at all, Toney is gonna finish him. But if he can nuetralise Toney's hands then he'll win.I'll be tuning in regardless.
Some of you need to a take a step backand look at whats happening.
Randy = 47
Tony = 41
There both washed up. No one is in there prime.
Can Toney win ? Defiantely, randy hasn't got the strongest chin if he gets hit flush he will go down.
Is toney likely to win ? Probabaly not and the odds will reflect that. Once he is taken down the fight will more than likely be over. Randy just better be careful trying to dirty box from the clinch.
Boxing fans need to realise mma isn't boxing. Of courese they arn't going to have amazing boxing skills. They wrestle, grapple, kick box is completly different.
Kimbo beat Mercer, Mercer Beat Sylvia proves nothing. They are just one off fights.
You don't have to like both sports but should at least understand whats happening before you pass judgement.
You've never seen him fight.
Unfortunately i have seen Randy fight. He is boring as hell. Ive seen Arturo Gatti fight so don't try telling me Couture is entertaining.
this is just stupid..counture is damn near 50..and toney is punch drunk
James is nowhere near punchdrunk...I know him well enough to know that...I dont know much about MMA though...not enough to say what type of chance either guy has....
James Toney is getting walked right into this. He talked his shit and now he's going to pay for it. He's my favorite boxer of all time and now I get to hear all of my friends talk about him getting embarrassed.
He's not even that effective as a boxer anymore. of course he could roll out of bed and beat any of these guys in a boxing match, but he's not going to be that sharp, and his chin may not be as good as it was either. After Couture eats a couple of right hands, he's going to easily take Toney down, and ground and pound him until the ref stops it.
They have here they are in alphabetical order, oh and you can exclude ray mercer and Mayorga from this list.
Vitor Belfort 1-0-0
Mikey Burnett 1-0-0
C
Jason Chambers 0-1-0
Rich Clementi 0-1-0
Kit Cope 1-1-0
Patrick Cote 0-1-0
Jeff Curran 2-2-1
D
Mac Danzig 0-1-0
Marcus Davis 17-1-2
Nick Diaz 1-0-0
E
Marvin Eastman 1-0-0
Yves Edwards 2-0-0
Aleksander Emelianenko 0-0-1
Eric "Butterbean" Esch 77-7-4
F
Don Frye 1-1-0
G
Leonard Garcia 0-1-0
Melvin Guillard 0-1-1
H
Chevelle Hallback 27-5-2
Marcus Hicks 5-4-1
Mark Hunt 0-1-1
I
J
Keith Jardine 3-0-1
Art Jimmerson 33-18-0
K
Mindaugas Kulikauskas 14-9-2
L
Jerome Le Banner 5-0-0
Chris Lytle 13-1-1
M
Terry Martin 1-0-0
Jorge Masvidal 1-0-0
Ricardo Mayorga 29-7-1
Ray Mercer 36-7-1
Guy Mezger 1-0-0
Mighty Mo 2-1-0
Jeff Monson 2-0-1
N
Josh Neer 1-0-0
Yosuke Nishijima 24-2-1
KJ Noons 10-2-0
Jan Nortje 10-0-0
O
Evgeny Orlov 10-5-1
P
Jens Pulver 4-0-0
Q
R
Elena Reid 19-5-6
Nick Ring 4-1-0
Ricco Rodriguez 1-1-0
S
Alessio Sakara 8-1-0
Darrill Schoonover 1-0-0
Anderson Silva 1-1-0
Matt Skelton 22-3-0
Patrick Smith 5-10-2
T
Din Thomas 1-0-1
Erin Toughill 7-3-1
U
Alexander Ustinov 17-0-0
V
Steve Vigneault 0-1-0
W
Carter Williams 2-0-0
Rubin Williams 29-8-1
X
Y
Z
Yaroslav Zavorotny 11-3-0
im not anti-mma by any means...matter of fact, i like it! BUT, wtf are you proving with this list? all those dudes suck azz and who are they? aside from mayorga/mercer/toney they'd all get demolished against real boxing comp.
that's not the point. mma fans considered sylvia to have an iron chin before mercer's old ass put him down for a 30 count
if mercer can do it at heavy, toney can do it at light heavy
Get the **** out of here. Randy fukking Couture, a wrestler dropped Tim with one punch.
His chin sucks, his stand up sucks, his ground game sucks.
In short, Tim Sylvia sucks
unless toney has world class american wrestling in his tool box, he's going to lose, it's too easy for a wrestler to take a boxer down, and once that happens, it's a no go for toney............ couture will always be a beast on the ground, especially against someone who doesn't have anywhere near the experience has him.
if couture is nice, he will try and keep it up on his feet until he's not feeling that he's winning standing up, then it goes to the ground and he pounds out a win.
not a good fight for toney.
Couture isn't Sylvia.
Couture outboxed Sylvia.
that's not the point. mma fans considered sylvia to have an iron chin before mercer's old ass put him down for a 30 count
if mercer can do it at heavy, toney can do it at light heavy
how great would it be if toney ended up as lhw champ. if a completely shot mercer put tim sylvia to sleep with one punch, i'd say it's possible. all he needs is a few big punches.
Couture isn't Sylvia.
Couture outboxed Sylvia.
how great would it be if toney ended up as lhw champ. if a completely shot mercer put tim sylvia to sleep with one punch, i'd say it's possible. all he needs is a few big punches.