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I don't think you can call ducking on two boxers, who already fought. There will always be valid reasons not to fight again.

Dirrell isn't beating Kessler, especially not now (and I don't even think back then). I'm thinking prime Dirrell. Dre isn't beating anyone of note now and the next year. Will he be back on the horse at one point, I think he'll make it very difficult for either Froch or Kessler to win.

I have no problem with that. Do you think we will hear Kessler make a campaign for hometown scoring like Froch did after their first fight? Absolutely not. Kessler applauded as they announced Froch the winner. Not even an ash cloud will Kessler be using as an excuse. That being said I was way to involved in the fight (jumping up and down, boxing and yelling) to score it, but even though Kessler scored the cleaner more crisp points, my general feeling definitely is, that Froch was the better man on the night. He just had those 15 % more to give and take. I'm very happy with the fight, but a bit sad, that I was so wrong in my perception, that Kessler would take Froch out before round 6 with a vicious left hook followed up by a straight right to the mouth. People were right about Froch just wanting it more and having that edge on Kessler, but I'm happy, that Kessler proved all the critics wrong in saying, that he was finished. Only Ward, Froch and Dirrell beats Kessler IMO - the rest of the division do not (Bhop is not in the division).

Why can't Hopkins just f-off into retirement? Really don't understand why so many people care about this guy. I hope Froch doesn't give him a pay day. There are bigger and more interesting fights out there for Carl. I agree actually. It would be Froch-Dirrell all over again.

It's just that he can make more money against Froch so naturally he wants Froch to win because he stands to gain more financially if Froch does emerge victorious. You state it as it's a fact? I'm yet to see Froch making more money than Kessler in any fight.

If the fight is held at 175, I favor Bhop against them both. But what is it in Kessler you see that would trouble Bhop more? If u look at the Ward fights, whos style is somewhat as Bhops, both of them got beaten decisively. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android I'm unsure if Kessler will trouble Bhop at all (mainly as you said because of the Ward fight (although I think Kessler under the right circumstances , e.g. with present knowledge, will perform better against Ward than Froch did)), but I think he'll be more of a threat than Froch, since he in my opinion is a better fighter then Froch. I'm just curious as to why Bhop is only calling Froch out, when he could easily call 'em both out. Mind you Kessler is making the same amount of money as Froch.

I almost feel sorry for the Cobra. A Viking with perfect vision on both eyes! It'll end like this poor bugger!

Well that and because you flash your tits whenever trouble's coming your way. Lol.

You guys know nothing! Just do this and you'll win every time. Real talk! http://i42.tinypic.com/vx17bt.jpg

Here's an idea... Don't get into street fights. I've lived in **** neighborhoods my entire life and haven't been in a single fight. Know why? It's because I'm intelligent. And also incredibly good looking. Well that and also because you flash your tits whenever trouble's coming your way. Lol. :owned:

**** off with these kind of threads you idiots Let it all out, son. Get it off your chest. You need a shoulder to cry on?

Gotta agree. Ward is booo-ring. Great fighter. Boring as hell. I don't like him, but mainly because he beat my man lol, but I think - although he is a bit boring - that it is fascinating to see him because he is so versatile. He'll always find a way to win. His skills are off the chart I think.

I don't know who you are, frankly I don't care. I'll just let the stupidity resonate for a moment here..... you look like a complete fool. Now, would you kindly **** off. I am sorry that I write stuff you do not agree on, oh great internet warrior. Please continue to "let the stupidity resonate" some more and please do tell me to **** off some more too. I think you should keep expressing your anger in words on internet boards, because there is then a slight chance, that you don't abuse your boyfriend when drunk at home. You know you can get help, if you were beaten as a kid, right? There are groups you can attend? You are not alone! Now you're at it, you should red k me, so that your enormous internet power really shows off.

And how the hell is anyone supposed to know that? Did you mention it in your original post? No. Do you have your location marked for everyone to see? No. Not even Einstein could read minds buddy. Which is why you should think twice before making biased posts! And if not sure, don't write it. :duh:

No it wasn't. 1. You're clearly not a Froch fan 2. Ward no, Kessler maybe, Dirrell ran away from 'vicious Froch' Weebler, so I can't be a Froch fan and still be realistic. If you're only a true fan when blinded by reality, then you're not a fan, but a fanatic! I'm a not. My favorite active boxers are Kessler, Froch, Mayweather, Pacman, Mosley and a few others. I dislike Ward, Dirrell and Haye and some more. I hope for a Kessler vs. Froch II, because that was a great fight and they clearly bring out the best in eachother. As I was disappointed about Froch saturday, so was I disappointed in Kessler, when Ward clearly beat him, but I'm still his fan and I'll still defend him and root for him. As I will root for Froch next time he fights (except if it's against Kessler :banana:) All I'm saying is, that Froch is the same fighter as always, but Bute got exposed.

So you write a big long negative post about Froch, claim you only saw one of his biggest and most important fights after hearing others talk about it, trash said performance, then claim you're a Froch fan, and I'm supposed to infer from all that that you're not talking out of your arse? Dude, you're not supposed to infer anything, because that will clearly get you on thin ice (and waste my time). Instead of making conjectures about me or why I saw the fight or not, stick to discussing the matter at hand. Which was Frochs disappointing showing against an even bigger disappointment. And now "shhh"

And yet you weren't planning on seeing one of his biggest fights on home soil against the top ranked SMW and only did so later after peer pressure. Yeah, some fan. What an biased and ignorant post! (take it somewhere else please) It was my youngest daughters birthday as well as my wedding anniversary. Besides - and why don't you tell me, since you're so clever - how could I see it live in Denmark?? Nice try Einstein.

Maybe Ward is beneath Martinez, because he couldn't close the deal against Allan Green (as both Johnson and Kessler could) and because he had big trouble getting the "W" against Bika. Wards greatest victory was against Kessler and although Kessler got clearly beaten, he lost not only because Ward is better, but also 'cuz Kessler was harassed in Cali and because he clearly underestimated Ward, thus he hadn't planned for the adversity that met him. Also have in mind, that Kessler couldn't see due to cuts and eyeproblems. It's not an excuse ('cuz Kessler would probably have lost anyway), but a victory against a blinded boxer is not that impressive. I think Ward needs to beat another proven top boxer (e.g. Dawson), before he can be considered p-4-p top 5!

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Bruce Lee also taught his students: Aim at a target just behind their head. Mike Tyson: Yeah, and I would never disrespect Bruce, but it wasn't his fighting that really got to me. There was too much showmanship there, even in his real fights. It's his philosophy—the best ever, off the hook: "You must be like water. The most insignificant substance but the strongest and most destructive force on the planet." You have to be both weak and strong. Strong alone is not enough. You cannot reign if you have not served. If you have not served a king, how can you ever know what it's like to demand that kind of obeying? That's water-deep. That's the ocean. Everything he did was extreme. He wasn't no nice guy, and people don't like extremists. But he was a perfectionist. Details: And so are you. Mike Tyson: I'm addicted to perfection. Problem with my life is I was always also addicted to chaos. Perfect chaos. Details: What's the story behind your Mao tattoo? 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Haters ... He's been hiding in a fatsuit (to fool his future opponents) all these years and now finally when he rids himself of it, the critics can't stop yelling.

Perez-Mares or Kessler-Froch What he said î I enjoyed Dirrell vs. AA too, but not a candidate though.

The gayest HW that pro boxing ever had in a while ..... :spam:

If a tie, the boxers must face Chuck Norris in a fight for their life. Last man standing advances. Can't wait to see what happens, when Ward headbutts The Chuckman for the first time.

I agree that it's highly unlikely, but think about it. Ward has the power to let Dirrell stay in the Super Six, which could have tremendous significance for Dirrell and it might even be a spot they both feel is rightfully Dirrells. If then Ward feels, that he is so good, that he will get the belts back in the final, why not then let Dirrell win. He’s not losing much, but is helping a dear friend immensely? Make no mistake, I believe Ward will do anything to stay undefeated, but it's food for thought.

I fear Ward will apply the same tactics as used against Green. Hopefully Dirrell will be just a tad more game, but I honestly fear it could be an absolute stinker. One good outcome is that one of them loses - hopefully it's Ward although I would rather have Froch and AA in the tourney. Baaah:puke:

a lot of time when andre is prayin, hes talkin to his dad and i like that some fighters are religious . Didn't know that. Good info.

Joe Calzaghe Chad Dawson

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For many athletes, religion and their god are their sole motivations for them to achieve everything that they'eve done in the sports world. Why not let them thank what has motivated them to come thus far. You wouldn't have a problem with them thanking the dollar bill for motivating them, you shouldn't have a problem with them thanking their god. As I stated, it's not about me. Disliking it isn't the same as having a problem with it, which I don't. But we're discussing it and your post had some valid points :-)

with or with plaster and catchweights? Easy. Mayweather jr.