if floyd fights cotto again, everything that has been going on in the floyd vs pac negotiations will start to make sense when you start to assume that floyd knew all along that he wasnt going to fight manny. you can expect some serious backlash from fans when they realise that they have been suckered by mayweather again. i guarantee that plenty of voices will be calling for a boycott of the fight and it will seriously affect the ppv sales.
i doubt arum would ever consider sitting down to negotiate with this group ever again... and i would not blame him one bit.
It actually means the scale used by HBO, Showtime, or whatever network that weighs the fighters on the day or night of the fight.
What other lies do you want to mask as facts today?
show me where you got this information and prove it didn't bubble out your arse.
its a real estate investment that he can use for a couple years and then sell at a nice profit. he can put a ring on the lawn and sell it as the mansion that manny trained in to beat floyd, lol i bet sly or arnold would buy it.
boxing is, and has always been, my favorite sport. i like all combat sports, but boxing has the history, level of skill, pageantry and fanatics that you dont find in other disciplines.
i am also a fan of mma because it is the closest thing to actual combat. the most elite fighting forces in the world would train mma instead of boxing because it is much more effective in a real world situation.
Seriously I don't no what to think. Either Shane is having a mild mid life crisis, maybe he always talks like this about his love life, or he doesn't take social media seriously and had his son write out a "stew". Shane's a little old and too respected to be acting like Floyd
i agree. its a bit undignified for a guy like shane, hes always shown more class than that.
If boxing scene can give Golden Boy an idea that Canelo-GGG is a lucrative fight then I'm thinking they might go for it. Certainly wouldn't hurt.
im sure they know this is one of the highest selling fights that can be made today, its just a matter of deciding how much a loss would affect canelos future earnings. i really dont thing it would affect them all that much. ggg is bigger and vastly more experienced and in his prime, he should, by all rights, beat the smaller, less experienced fighter. canelo has years ahead of him to get bigger and better, then make millions in a rematch he can win vs a faded ggg.
i think it gets made if floyd fights cotto. canelo vs ggg would easily outsell floyd vs cotto on may 2nd. he would probably lose, but he would take back cinco de mayo. make it happen.
Canelo isn't in the position to give deadlines. That's just as dumb as Khan giving Mayweather deadlines.
Canelo's acting like a little diva bytch like always.
looks to me like he did, and hes following through with it. we will see who comes out cleaner in the end.
be prepared, that means doing your homework on the person you are interviewing. listen intently to what the person being interviewed is saying and try to correlate what he is saying with the questions you should be prepared to ask, that way the interview flows seamlessly. be professional, slang and profanity will prevent you from being taken seriously by those who can advance your career. these are the things that separate a pro from a scrub with a camera.
Canelo vs Austin trout one of the most recent
ive seen julio cesar chavez, both sr and jr, pernell whitaker, delahoya, paquiao, mayweather, barrera, canelo, maidana, broner, and a lot more world class fighters, all of them at the alamodome in san antonio.
he really isnt. you will hear a bunch of arguments claiming he is, but none of their reasoning makes sense. you can put both of them up against the same fighter, no matter who it is, and the canelo fight will sell more. no one would actually believe that if martinez would have fought canelo instead of cotto, that they would have sold less than 350k.
It's funny because I didnt really give it any thought and just went along with Cotto being the A-side. Then I really thought about it and said...."wait, but why?" He's not a bigger draw than Canelo. I'd say their drawing power is about equal with the edge going to Canelo due to his massive Mexican following.
Canelo/Cotto in Vegas for Cinco de mayo wknd is bigger and generates more money than Cotto/Canelo in NYC for Puerto Rican wknd
yeah, you have to take into account that the large majority of posters are more fan boy than boxing fan. their love, or hate, for a fighter is the most important thing in determining how they feel about any given situation. who they love today, may very well turn into who they hate, depending on how that person relates to their crush. their minds and emotions change with the direction of the wind.
if anyone thinks that a brawler with no skills can become top 10 in the world in his division, then you have to believe that boxing technique just isnt that effective. if all this practicing of technique, day after day, year after year, cant stop a rock em sock em robot from becoming world class, how much of a difference does it really make?
i prefer aggressive fighters, whether they be boxers or brawlers. a self preservation first mentality just doesnt appeal to me in combat sports.
roach obviously sees what many other people with some boxing knowledge see, ggg is a very gifted fighter. i think gg ko's canelo and cotto, cotto within 6 and canelo within 10, i dont think they are big enough or good enough to trouble ggg too much. i see ggg vs ward as pretty even.
Cotto fought the best available in his weight classes, if they were considered c level by your standards that's fine but the truth is that all fighters will face their stiffest apposition as they grow their resume and in between fights face an undefeated bum or two specially after big loses. Heck in the old days champion's use to fight non title fights all the time and in some cases loose and come back defend the title against the best.
ok.
so basically, the only thing you would challenge in my post, is that some of cottos opposition is being labeled as c level, when that was all that was available?
The only two Cotto fights that matter to me as his fan are a rematch with Pac and a rematch with Floyd but not at the cost of not getting Floyd/Pac. I only care about those rematches because he is at the end of his career, I don't buy into the rejuvenated theory my belief is that he is conserving energy by not over training any more and taking long recovery breaks between fights. I believe he looses against GGG but not as easy as many people around here say. I also believe he looses against Canelo in a hard fought fight. I also feel that if he decides to keep the MW belt he needs to face his mandatory who happens to be the man everyone thinks is the best MW GGG. The rematch with Mayweather should be for glory and not the MW belt, but I understand the belt is the only reason Floyd would fight him.
fair enough, this post makes you look like a boxing fan who happens to like cotto, no different from me i guess. sorry if i thought you were just another one of cottos fanboys who just blindly defend everything he does and just overrate the hell out of him. believe it or not, im a big cotto fan too, he has entertained me with many of his fights. i think he would be the 3rd best welter right now, but i understand why he dont want to settle for that, and thats also the reason i think all the top jr middles and middleweights all beat him.
Early on in his career Cotto was a pure boxer but the PR fans did not like that once they got a taste of what he was capable of doing as a seek and destroy fighter. I remember in one fight where he easily won by decision the fans booed through the whole second half of the fight. He was passed and asked his uncle what is it that the fans want from me I'm winning the fights and his uncle told him don't mind them they just want to see knockouts. Cotto ignored his uncles request to ignore the fans and moving forward fought every fight seeking a knockout after that. Later he hired Emanuel Stewart hopping to get back to being a boxer but by then it was too late we the his fans were spoiled. That's why he has been so inconsistent and why he has decided on giving up on the dream of being Sugar Ray Leonard like and who better to team up with if your going to be an offensive fighter. Knowing with this style he would expose himself to more punishment is why the once a year fight.
the other version of what happened, is that cotto looked very good coming up the ranks and impressively beating c level opposition, he started to have much tougher fights against b level opposition, and then got beaten pretty bad by the top fighters.
for your version of events to be true, it would be the first time in the history of boxing that that has happened. for the other version to be true, it would mean that what happened to cotto has happened to hundreds, if not thousands fighters before him, and will keep happening for as long as boxing is around.
now, which version do you think a neutral party would believe to be the truth?
I think everybody wants that though, ring wingers and left wingers men.
The only group of voters that might be against it is women on both sides.
And Im sure some right wing women would support it as well.
marriage is a contract, if the possibility of losing half of what you build while you are together scares you, do not enter into that contract. thats why a woman who cheats gets screwed out of her half, because she broke the contract.