Aside from having longevity in the sport, what has he done that's so greater than Canelo that warrants him being the A-side that calls all the shots?
-Both fought Trout. Cotto got completely outboxed while Canelo won a close decision.
-Both fought Floyd and lost albeit Cotto put up a better fight. Nonetheless a loss is a loss.
-Both fought and beat Mosley.
-Canelo's biggest win....Erislandy Lara
-Cotto's biggest win......I'd say Mosley as Margarito came into that fight with 1 good eye and Martinez had a leg like baby bambi.
Floyd/Alvarez did almost a mil more buys than Floyd/Cotto.
So I ask again.....What makes Cotto feel that he can call all the shots here? As I see it, both are about equal as far as draw and star appeal for their own reasons.
A-Side= Drawing Power
Cotto can sell out MSG fighting anybody, also although not Mayweather or Pacquiao PPV Numbers, he does Solid PPV Numbers
I don't know WTF some of you are talking about point out who he lost to and all this other BS!
You wanna know what makes him the A-SIDE? Is the fact that he don't need Canelo!
I'd say as far as drawing power is concerned, both are about even with Canelo getting the edge. His Mexican fanbase is larger than Cotto's PR fanbase.
Floyd Canelo did almost a million more buys than Floyd/Cotto.
A and B sides have NEVER been resume-based. It's ALWAYS been based on which fighter is the the one that brings in the most revenue (popularity-based in a sense although popularity doesn't necessarily = revenue). This, of course, can change depending on the negotiating position of the sides (including how much the B-side and his team will accept and how much the A-side and his team is willing to concede for the ranking, title(s), etc.)
Now... Considering Canelo's fight against Mayweather (just a year after Cotto's) sold about a Million more PPVs than Cotto's, I definitely wouldn't accept less than 50-50 if I were on Canelo's team, but I would also play hardball for 50-50 if I were on Cotto's team due to his track record and titles.
I can see why negotiations were stagnant; I'm surprised that the negotiations got as far as they did.
Canelo no longer wants the cotto fight. If cotto's reps reach out to canelos people to re-negotiate does that makes canelo the a-side?
Yes. That`s what Oscar meant when he said "If we're going to make a future deal down the line, in the future this year or next year - I guarantee that its going to be on Canelo's term".
Canelo wants Cotto fight, thus Cotto is A-side.
Froch wants Chavez Jr., Chavez Jr. is A-side.
GGG wants anyone of the above, and GGG will be B-side.
If Ward wants GGG, Ward has to be B-side.
Same is true for Pac-Floyd.
Canelo no longer wants the cotto fight. If cotto's reps reach out to canelos people to re-negotiate does that makes canelo the a-side?
Canelo wants Cotto fight, thus Cotto is A-side.
Froch wants Chavez Jr., Chavez Jr. is A-side.
GGG wants anyone of the above, and GGG will be B-side.
If Ward wants GGG, Ward has to be B-side.
Same is true for Pac-Floyd.
He isn't the A-side. Alvarez is the bigger draw. Cotto has just become a massive diva. There are a good many ignorant posters who don't understand the concept of a revenue draw.
A-Side= Drawing Power
Cotto can sell out MSG fighting anybody, also although not Mayweather or Pacquiao PPV Numbers, he does Solid PPV Numbers
I don't know WTF some of you are talking about point out who he lost to and all this other BS!
You wanna know what makes him the A-SIDE? Is the fact that he don't need Canelo!
LOL quite a few rounds. Cotto won 3 rounds. Nice one. Canelo could have easily been given 3 rounds. Majority of the fight early Floyd was edging out rounds by a small margin. Could have swung either way, Early.
dude it's useless with these Cotto fans and Canelo haters.
Here are the facts:
Canelo has a history of taking on tough challenges. Dude wanted to fight Williams, Kirkland, Ortiz but for one reason or another those fights didn't fall through. Fought Trout, Mayweather and Lara, and the only reason he fought Angulo was because Cotto turned down 10 million dollars.
Cotto on the other hand is notorious for being a diva and difficult to negotiate with. Dude almost killed the Margarito 2 fight with ridiculous demands. Sergio Martinez said Cotto would cry like a little girl a threaten to not fight if every little demand wasn't meet. He did the same thing here to Canelo.
Cotto and his diva ways killed this fight. It's that simple.
I've never seen someone seem so proud of their stupidity. holy ****. how you can operate any kind of modern technology is beyond me. when you grow up, consider becoming a human shield in a place rife with war, child.
LMAO, this is a classic post. If these words weren't a Mack 10 with a silencer than they sure were words that would cremate a hell placed pitch fork.
love how the bold is contradictory,you mention Cotto got completely outboxed by Trout and say Canelo got a close decision which should have been a draw btw
Then just mention they both lost to Floyd,but Cotto won quite a few round and put some hurt on Floyd... Canelo got completely outboxed every single second of the fight,you forgot that huh
LOL quite a few rounds. Cotto won 3 rounds. Nice one. Canelo could have easily been given 3 rounds. Majority of the fight early Floyd was edging out rounds by a small margin. Could have swung either way, Early.
I've never seen someone seem so proud of their stupidity. holy ****. how you can operate any kind of modern technology is beyond me. when you grow up, consider becoming a human shield in a place rife with war, child.
Thats what I thought b1tch. carry on
you're the real fckng idiot. Read the comments dipsh1t!! its cotto fans that are saying "how is he ducking when hes negotiation with may?!" "oh so wanting to fight the best P4P fighter is ducking now?" "I wouldn't mind seeing cotto cash out" "fighthype is reporting cotto vs may" now STFU and get off my nuts b1tch. :lol1:
Then wtf is cotto doing? what the fck is the posturing for? explain all mighty great poster? what the fck is the difference if may vs pac gets made? There have thousands of fights with rescheduled dates. Now carry on fck boy. your boyfriend Jotto didnt want to get beat down in front of his family and bro, who also got beat down. :loser:
I've never seen someone seem so proud of their stupidity. holy ****. how you can operate any kind of modern technology is beyond me. when you grow up, consider becoming a human shield in a place rife with war, child.
Cantnelo needs to focus on GGG. Stop using little Miguel as a cover for ducking GGG. Canelo fans are quiet when it comes to GGG. :dance:
Haha this is hilarious
The fact he is the MW champ is really the only thing he has on Canelo.
They both had huge numbers against Floyd with Nelo edging him. Both of their last PPV were about the same. 300K.
It was a good even fight and should have been made. Cotto and his diva ways killed this fight.
Cantnelo needs to focus on GGG. Stop using little Miguel as a cover for ducking GGG. Canelo fans are quiet when it comes to GGG. :dance:
I want him to face GGG.
where are you geniuses getting this information? he's trying to cut a deal with floyd? how much of a f*cktard do you have to be to make **** up in order for it to align with your agenda?
floyd's boss, les moonves, the president of CBS, the guy who cuts floyd his god damn checks has had a hand in making manny v. floyd happen.
there is no other fight that has gotten that kind of attention from the ****ING CEO Of the media company that's trying to secure the fight.
i can't wait to hear the excuse you cretins will come up with after floyd and manny gets made.
you're the real fckng idiot. Read the comments dipsh1t!! its cotto fans that are saying "how is he ducking when hes negotiation with may?!" "oh so wanting to fight the best P4P fighter is ducking now?" "I wouldn't mind seeing cotto cash out" "fighthype is reporting cotto vs may" now STFU and get off my nuts b1tch. :lol1:
Then wtf is cotto doing? what the fck is the posturing for? explain all mighty great poster? what the fck is the difference if may vs pac gets made? There have thousands of fights with rescheduled dates. Now carry on fck boy. your boyfriend Jotto didnt want to get beat down in front of his family and bro, who also got beat down. :loser:
"Sergio Martinez’s middleweight title defense against Miguel Cotto at Madison Square Garden generated between 300,000 and 315,000 pay-per-view buys"(http://www.si.com/boxing/2014/06/25/miguel-cotto-sergio-martinez-pay-per-view).
Those numbers suck, plain and simple.
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