I'm not saying he wasnt still a good fighter, He beat Sasakul for the WBC belt but he was getting outboxed before the KO and then got KO'd by Singsurat. I give him credit for beating Barrera but shortly after that he got outboxed badly by Marquez and then beaten up by Erik Morales. But then all of a sudden he moved up to 135, 140, 147 and just started walking through everyone. Of course the Morales fight would have made him train harder, But I dont buy the fact that you can go from being knocked around by Oscar Larios, Marquez and Morales and then just move up and destroy guys that are much bigger than you.
Pacquiao wasnt even a serious puncher at 130 but now at 147 it's like he has huge power. Iv'e never heard of this happen either, When guys move up in weight they always struggle to maintain their power. Wheras Pacquiao just started killing everyone.
Lol are you a boxing fan? You think it's all about power? Theres a reason why most of his KDs get back up.
I found this site a couple months ago. I thought yes a boxing forum! Started posting vids ect. Then theres stuff like this that have steered me away. I mean how dumb can a topic be?
What happened is that Manny finally sacked up and he got beat from pillar to post.
I fell out of my chair. Can you send me a link to the fight you watched?
Lol c'mon it was coming off a shot and it's not like he was trying to hit him there. If he was aiming there after the shot he took I think GGG needs more respect than he gets lol.
So true, the so called ped experts only comes out when they see false accusations and they come in full force trying so hard to convince everyone that it's true.
They have to have a excuse.
More lying. You have me on ignore because 1bad told you to because you got upset I told you your 2013 article was outdate.
If you have someone on ignore it's gay as f-ck to mention or quote them. At least have a shred of integrity and don’t lie when you mention me.
First of all no one tells me what to do. You're racist chit got you on ignore. If I see your post because someone quoted you I'll respond and tell them to not waste their time.
Looks like I dont need to do that tho as it looks like many others feel the same way about your BS.
BTW did the military discontinue ground troops yet? LOL you and your BS.
yes, he wasnt enrolled in 2018, that's the fight he did against lucas. but in 2019 they signed up. that's why he did vada for the broner fight! then in this fight against thurman, since they were already signed up in the CBP for manny to be tested anytime they want, they figure that vada will be doing the testing for the thurman fight as well.
Sean: The end of last year we signed up for the WBC VADA clean testing. 365 24/7. Manny can be tested anytime. After signing up for that we were doing a fight Jan 19 with Adrien Broner. We signed up for Vada for that fight.
Sean: So leading up to the Thurman fight we thought it's going to basically the same type of drug testing. Whoever administers it we have no problem. We already signed up. We got the papers 45 days out to sign up again what we thought was Vada, but it turned out to be that the Nevada athletic commission using VADA. So either way you look at it. Vada still administered. It's the same.
Its pointless I argue with him all the time. You can provide all the proof in the world and he wont admit he was wrong, trust me.
Pac should retire
Roach said he had double.vision after the fight
But he is surrounded by leeches so i doubt he retires
Floyd is so much smarter
Pac is gonna end up getting knocked out or hurt badly and the former is better for him
How many fighters have double vision after a fight like that? How many do you think?
Straight up, may won that fight. It was a close fight and when people say it wasnt close that's what gets me. Now add that manny was hurt. Yeah I want to see a rematch.
lol they didn't even show the left hand that hurt thurman to the body in the tenth :lol1:
Chit they didnt even show the knockdown. When manny hurt him to the body they said it was a headbutt. Lol what a joke.
Pacquiao frustrates his opponents and forces them to think and change their game plan. How many times have we heard fighters who trash talked ahead of the fight say that they didn’t realize how fast he would be until they got in the ring with him. They underestimate him and are forced to fight a different fight once they are in the ring.
He definitely lost some of his killer instinct when he found religion. The KO loss to Marquez was further motivation for him to make adjustments and not take as many punches or risks on the inside.
Duran, Pacquiao, Loma, are gifted fighters who only come along once in a generation. We are fortunate to have witnessed their careers in our lifetime.
I can agree with that.
To be fair, Mikey was on survival mode half the fight. It's hard to stop a world class fighter when they've made up their mind to survive.
Manny would never fight just to survive which would open him up for the likelihood of getting stopped. Not saying it will happen but the styles and disposition of the fighters matter.
Manny has been defying odds for YEARS. Lets see it.
Of course the old Manny is not back. He is 40 years old. Besides, Keith is a very big welterweight. Pac, would have had to expend a lot of energy getting Thurman out of there.
Also, you underestimating "One Time's" heart. He is a tough cookie and proved he wasn't going down without a fight. He had to fight Pac off of him and he did.
Besides, Manny didn't need the knock out. I thought he done more than enough to win the fight anyhow. All in all it was a very good fight.
Well said.......
Nooo Pac should fight the likes of Mikey/Danny Garcia then hang em up.
Yall act like Manny destroyed Thurman and that he didnt get hit with clean punches.
Now imagine him vs the likes of Spence who is a machine in the late rounds when Pac was gassing after round 5. Then we have Crawford who is the best skilled guy at 147 accompanied with a killer instinct.
As a Spence fan he couldn't stop mikey but he can stop pac? He didnt hurt him either. Why should manny be scared?
Lol u aint answer none of my questions. I dont wanna see Pac get retired like Hopkins. Or take too much damage at 40. Which will happen.
Yes, spence adjusted to each style.
I think Spence is to big for Pac but like I said, hes a big boy. Its up to Manny to decide what he wants to do. These are grown ass men.
I don’t think he was holding back. He fought as hard as he needed to and as hard as his body would allow him to at age 40.
Manny is a speed kills kind of fighter. He might knock you down but does he really hurt you to the point of just one big shot will put you out? It hasn't been that way for a long time. Just like when he fought Chris Algeri and knocked him down all those times.
It's the same with Loma. People are overwhelmed. It not so much the power but the angles and speed that make guys quit.
I think manny knows that hes not some big KO puncher. I think he knows if he catches you then boom 2 points that round. But for the most part he doesnt carry a lot of power. That's why he backs off a lot and resets. He wants to catch guys again like he did chris.
Maybe DAZN is broke and needs the big fights. If they dont get them they dont have to pay anyone so no losses.
He signed a contract for 300mil and he thinks he can just pick and choose? You want that you better go the Mayweather route and it's to late for that.
Yes or no Did Spence fight Mikey the same way he fought Brook?
Does Manny have the same defense as Mikey?
Will Manny go into survival mode like Mikey?
All these will contribute to Manny getting hurt.
Mikey got punched in the face a million times but never got rocked. I dunno but Im good with the fight if thats what Pac wants. Hes a big boy he can take the risk if he wants. Problem is I dunno who I would want to win lol. It would be awesome to see a 41 year old beat a guy like spence. Seal the deal and walk off into the sunset.