Easy UD for Khan.
Styles make fights. Khan all wrong for Maidanna
Doubt it. Maidana not only has Roberto Garcia in his corner but he also has two fights with Mayweather under his belt and one fight with Broner. He'd destroy Khan at this point.
Maidana by mid round KO!
Khan has good speed but his coordination is laughable. Maidana is much more disciplined, committed and focused under Granpa Garcia.
Khan would not go the distance. I hope this fight is made. I'm tired of seeing meaningless fights in the Welterweight Division.
I want to see Swift Garcia vs. Maidana or Thurman. Or Kell Brook against Khan, Maidana or Thurman. How about Tim Bradley vs any of those guys?
As a boxing fan I'm tired of seeing weak fights in the Welterweight Division.
I think another interesting fight would be Swift vs. Broner.
He hasn't proven to be much better than Thurman. Ridiculous comment. He has simply been given opportunities against better opposition.
Lets see how great Thurman looks against the likes of Kell Brook or Swifty Garcia. Hell, at this point I'd like to see Thurman vs. Broner.
Since Zab Judah floyd has not fought a fighter that is considered to be quick and has handspeed. Throughout his career he keeps on picking on the same type of fighters. Fighters who can hit hard and that come forward. Its about time floyd picks a different type of fighter and prove that he can adapt to any style in the ring as he says.
And what did Floyd do to Zab Judah?
Also, give me a non flat footed guy that's better than JMM and Canelo over the last 4 years.
And if you say Pac. All I'll say is JMM. So please list the fighters that are not flat footed that Floyd ducked. Thank you.
That's why Floyd is undefeated and manny has a few L's... Matchmaking...
Both guys have a preferred style to fight... Manny never had an O to product so he could be alittle more risky in matchmaking
Floyd has been one of the fastest boxers in the sport since the 90s. It's not easy to find someone to match his speed. The closest were Mosley and Judah.
You would have to go back to Prime or young Roy Jones to find someone who can match Floyd's prime speed.
Hopefully the Pac fight will be materialized soon. Somehow that fight still has big interest.
When will the REST OF BOXING catch up as far as BOXING SKILLS Go?
You're basically suggesting Amir Khan I am going to assume by your Sig lol, I would be all for Amir Khan getting a shot if he fights and beat at Top 10 Welterweight and beat them impressively so that the buzz for that fight will start here in the US, but he is playing it safe taking winning about fights then him and his fans are acting like ENTITLED B!TCHES
But the reason why he keeps fighting Flat Footed Fighters is because it is really not many Skill Fighters at 140-154
I would love to see Demetrius Andrade get a shot at Mayweather but that is not likely because of Politics and also the fact that fans once against have taking the side of HYPE>SKILLS
You and many others would rather see the HYPED UP FIGHTER you like get a shot a Mayweather instead of the guy who does have the SKILLS TO CHALLENGE MAYWEATHER and to PROVE that is not what most of you want to see, how many people have called for Mayweather to fight someone "SKILLED"
You guys don't want to see Mayweather lose to someone "SKILLED" you want to see him lose to someone you LIKE and most of the fighter you guys like have no fukin chance against Mayweather or is too far out of his division
If the list of the names your suggesting is laughable because none of those fighters are truly "SKILLED" because Lara and Thurman has SOME SKILLS. Pacquiao is not a "SKILLED FIGHTER" and neither is Khan. Both are good athletes and very fast but as far a PURE BOXING SKILLS...NO THEY'RE NOT!
Good post!
Thurman fights very similar to Khan, imo. Both fight pretty well from the outside. They both like to mix it up on the inside but get incredibly wild. Add Pac to the Thurman/Khan list in regards to having loose defense.
That is why Khan and Pacquiao have been STOPPED by more patient and disciplined fighters. Thurman just hasn't been tested yet. But his time is coming. If Thurman fights Brooks, I'm predicting he gets stopped.
Floyd would beat all these guys because they are not technically sound.
Robert Garcia has worked with Maidana a lot and made him a much more technically sound fighter. He rarely smothers his own punches like Khan and Thurman.
I'd love to see this edition of Maidana vs Khan or Thurman. Hell, I'd like to see this version of Maidana square off with Pac.
Thurman is far more selective than Khan when it comes to picking his spots and changing his arsenal of punches, even changing speed, on top of that you will never see Thurman finishing off a combination whilst off balance or squaring up the way Khan does.
I admit though, I do see instances where Thurman looks vulnerable especially to a good counter puncher but his ability to regroup, roll shots and pull out separate him from reckless fighters like Khan.
Agreed on Thurman being a bit more selective than Khan.
I think a fighter like JMM would be a nightmare for Thurman. I just don't know what JMM has left.
I believe Khan and Pacman are skilled fighters , we might have different opinion on what a skilled fighter is.
They do have skills. I think a better description would be technically sound. Thurman nor Khan seem very technically sound. They do things that are not taught and they lack certain fundamentals (in-fighting, defense, etc..).
Floyd struggled against Zab for the first half of the fight and got dropped, then took over when Zab gassed out as usual.
And they don't have to be better fighters than Marquez and Canelo to give Floyd a good fight. Marquez and Canelo are better fighters than Maidana yet Maidana gave Floyd a much tougher fight (twice) than either of those guy.
Pac, Khan, Lara and even Thurman would give Floyd a hard time because they have good footwork and speed.
With the exception of Pac, who would want to see Floyd vs. Lara/Khan? Thurman is the new Lucas Matthyse. Another unproved power puncher that is being overhyped.
And Floyd did not get dropped by Zab. Officially or unofficially. If you look at it in slow motion you'll see that their feet got tangled. The only fighters to wobble or hurt Floyd were DeMarcus Corley, Shane Mosley and Maidana.
Happy because he looks so happy hitting it
Sad because he's in a wheelchair
That smile though
I used to be a big Paul Williams fan. He wasn't a ATG or anything but he brought an exciting style to the sport of boxing.
He was the first to really expose the hype train which was Antonio Magarito.
He also had Miguel Cotto running scared. And Freddie Roach was on record stating that he'd never match Manny up with Paul (even though both were Welterweights).
He was truthfully one of the more avoided fighters of his day.
The Punisher will be missed but never forgotten.
I mean he hasn't even fought a fast fighter in last 10 years.
Just have a look at some of his last opponents, Cotto,Ortiz,Guerrero,Canelo,Maidana,Maidana2 tho all are respectable fighters but 1 thing is common on all of them, they all lack lateral movement and speed and are flat footed.
Last time Mayweather fought a fast fighter was Zab Judah and in that fight he lost first 4 rounds and his 'gloves touched the canvas' after that he's not been in the ring with anyone fast or someone who could move.
''Plodders after Plodders after Plodders'', cmon now?
That makes me wonder if Mayweather is a 'Stylistic' CherryPicker, he only fights guys with 'Styles' that suit him.
Even before Zab Judah I couldn't find anyone fast on his resume. He fought Mosley but he was like 39 wayyy past his prime and wasn't known for anything substantial. Oscar was wayyy past his prime too and Floyd only managed a split decision win.
I just couldn't find any 'Stylistic Variation' on his resume, could you?
Can anyone name just 3 fast fighters with movement from Mayweather's resume? Thanks.!
Why do you and the one other hater keep making these type of threads about topics that have been discussed ad nauseum? You have already been schooled on this topic.
Damn where all these racists coming from? Just like goddamn roaches, lol.
The racist have always been here. Without the racists, the Floyd hate wouldn't be nearly this strong and over the top.
It just sucks for some people to admit that a black athlete like Floyd can fight so intelligently, gross so much money and remain undefeated under enormous pressure from the masses.
They thought Blacks topped out with Sugar Ray Leonard and Mike Tyson.
So, according to you his racist rant was OK because it was "likely" he was being heckled by a few callers?
Has he not ducked Pacquiao, along with many other top fighters at their peaks?
Has he not beaten his wife, and multiple other women? Has he not been imprisoned for battery and domestic violence?
Does he not represent himself in a ghetto clown like manner?
He's most clearly a fraud. Get your priorities straight and stop crying with your waaahhh victim mentality. Get some thicker skin, you're about to start tearing up.
You're a FRAUD and a LOSER! I will not respond to you again until you prove otherwise.
I'm not impressed by your 9000 posts and effeminate defense mechanisms.
I'm sure another Mayweather thread will begin soon. Go get some rest so you can get ready to spend your life in there and create another 9000 posts in a 1 year span.
I think he was really affected by the aftermath of the Abraham fight. His Super 6 experience was so unlucky. He outboxes Froch in enemy territory but doesn't get the decision, he clearly won that fight IMO. Next as he is outboxing the tournament favorite in the 2nd fight (even dropped him), it again ends in a very unsatisfying manner. Then instead of getting credit for the performance, everybody focuses on whether he did or didn't fake the effects of an illegal blow. If you think about it, if he got the decision vs. Froch that he deserved and Abraham didn't hit him after he fell to the canvas, he would have been an undefeated WBC SMW champion with clear decision victories over Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch, and even Curtis Stevens. But we all know what happened instead.
He ducks Andre Ward, exits the Super 6, dumps Al Haymon, and signs with 50 Cent. That would ruin anybody's career.
His last 3 fights after Abraham have been on ShoBox, Unimas, and ESPN Friday Night Fights. His next fight next week is on ESPN again.
Good post! Thanks for the info. I remember the Abraham fight. He put on a dominating performance. I never thought that cheap shot would have such an adverse effect on his career. smh
http://youtu.be/kcI3qmKxnqM
That's the video. I'm not a huge Pacquiao or Mayweather fan: but let's for a second assume Manny said something like "after I woop floyd I'm going to make him make me some fried chicken and watermelon"
We would never hear the end of it. In the link I provided you'll see Mayweather saying "after I woop Pacquiao I'm going to make him make me some sushi and rice"
Ok that was my first time seeing that video. What Floyd said was not cool. If I was Asian I'd probably be pretty pissed. With that said, I'm not defending everything that Floyd says. Sometimes he says stupid things. Period.
However, people have been racist towards Floyd and you could tell from Floyd's response in that video, he was frustrated. Lots of ppl have called this man a COWARD for not fighting Pacquiao. He's been called a wife beater, a ghetto clown, a fraud, etc...
So yea it's not right, but sometimes people will respond back in the same exact manner they're being treated.
Look at how people pelted Adrian Broner with paper cups and threw drinks at him after he lost to Marcos Maidana. How did Broner deserve that DISGUSTING treatment?
Why was there not more outrage from boxing fans? Oh, because Mayweather wasn't involved.
The double standards are beyond GROSS.
No one is furious though...a thread like this getting up to 25+ pages is just a testament to Floyd's greatness.
There could probably be a 50+ page thread on him ordering a Big Mac at at a McDonalds.
That's real talk. The only ppl getting mad are the same old tired Floyd haters. People that are fans of Floyd's skills could care less about TMZ crap like this. It's the jealous haters that care about this petty stuff.
They're looking for any reason to denigrate Floyd, his fans and his accomplishments. That is their ONLY MO. It's what gives them life.
And we all know if Floyd's last name was Mayzalaz, Maygorito, Maylovkin, Mayzaghe, MayFroch, MayAlvaraz, etc... he'd be cherished by most of these same people. LOL!
But it's all good. The truth hurts. He's the best boxer the sport has had probably since Sweetpea or possibly even since Leonard. Again, truth hurts.
Ghetto repugnant Mayweather. How typical of him. You start to wonder, why does he always seem so upset towards women??
Is he insecure about something? This goes a lot deeper than him being an insecure out of place individual.
More racist posts from Mayweather TROLLS!
The proof is in this thread. You guys are exposing yourselves. Thank you!!
The same people who know Floyd know who Manny is, but the difference is in the UK Floyd is more loved than Manny.
Floyd is very insecure so he took offense when this woman had no clue who he was, a sign of his insecurity is he has to make a grand entrance everywhere he goes, he has to have 7 giant bodyguards with TMT shirts and his name on them at all times when he goes out, because he is drawing attention to himself because he needs people to know who he is.
I seen guys like Kean Reeves and Brad Pitt who are international movie stars walk around without a huge entourage,
I seen Kobe Bryant go to a church by himself, but Floyd has to go everywhere with a huge entourage with huge bodyguards wearing shirts with his name on it.
Floyd screams insecurity.
Keanu Reeves is more famous and well known than Floyd Mayweather by miles, Yet this Latino chick has no clue who he is, Keanu is riding the subway nobody is looking at him or askign for his autograph yet it doesn't seem to bother him, he even lets that woman take his seat while he stands up. Floyd is an insecure attention seeker, Keanu is a secure MAN. There is a difference between the two, on is MORE famous movie star who carries himself like a regular guy with no ego, the other is a famous sports star who constantly has to tell people who he is and how much money he makes, and gets offended when someone doesnt knows who he is.
More examples of FLOYD TROLLS doing what they do. They are into things like judging Floyd's masculinity, his women, his family, his thought process, his genitala in comparison to other fighters, his brand, etc...
Floyd Trolls are the worst disease boxing has ever had to suffer.
actually, half of the posts here are from floydiots who got buthurt coz a woman on the other side of the world dont know your BFF! lol :banana:
No, actually the majority of the posts here are from Floyd TROLLS who have nothing better to do than watch and critique everything Floyd does.
Most of the Floyd fans in this thread have basically said it's not a big deal that she doesn't know him.
It's you TROLLS that won't get off his nuts.
His career wasn't exactly going places before 50 Cent, Laz.
There was that whole business after the Abraham fight. Then his unwillingness to fight Ward and the whole "Dr. Shaw Hi" thing....
While that video was kinda funny I don't get it. Did he lie about seeing a doctor after the Abraham fight? It just sounded to me that he couldn't remember the doctor's name.
Most doctors nowadays seem to be Arab or non-American. It's hard pronouncing those last names. Maybe that's why he sounded so unsure of the docs name.
that malcolm guy having a meltdown right now
Im not melting down at all. I'm just addressing the hate. Period.
Even if NSB was my life... I'd still be happy as a Mayweather fan. I can bet money and KNOW I'm going to win with Mayweather.
There shouldn't be too many ANGRY Mayweather fans. For what? LOL!
I ain't worried about nothing...
Styles make fights and Danny would be right there to be hit. Despite his nickname "swift" he's far from.
Thurman, Khan, Pac all give Floyd more problems than Garcia.
You're right about Bradley. He's too sloppy and wide. Floyd would have a field day picking him off.
If Swift is so easy to hit then why didn't the heavily favored Matthyse do any damage to him in 12 rounds of action?
I'm not so sure Khan see 12 rounds with Matthyse. And I understand styles make fights but what's so troublesome about Thurman's style?
He hits hard. Ok. Floyd has fought tons of those guys. Thurman does not dance around the ring all night long. He likes to trade blows and would get picked off by Mayweather, imo...
I don't see how he troubles Mayweather anymore than Canelo. Ppl act like Canelo fights like Baldomir or something. SMH
Watch him completely ignore this post. He went on an actual hate-fueled rant towards Filipinos but calling Floyd a ghetto coward is the real "racism". Idiots.
Provide the quote where Mayweather RANTED about Asians... I'll be waiting. No excuses.
That is just fooking crazy. Its so widely accepted that its just a given that floyd has the most racist fanbase in not just boxing, but all sports. I have certainly never seen anything like it. Its just disgusting and it happens every single day on here. The only people you will find to disagree will be fellow *****'s, thats just a fact.
I rarely see evidence of that. Prove your point.
I've heard Floyd called Ghetto Trash, KFC, Crackhead, etc...
But that's not racist to you?? Stop being a trolling hypocrite.
Thats why I'd like him to fight Bradley,Thurman,Pacquiao or Khan but his next opponent is more likely to be Danny Garica.. I'm not hating, its just facts
SMH
Garcia is better than Thurman and Bradley.
Bradley might have a little speed but he's sloppy as hell and uncoordinated. Mayweather would MURDER a guy like Bradley. As a Mayweather fan, I wish he'd fight Bradley next just to put on a show.
Mayweather has been fighting RUGGED, STEEL CHINNED fighters with decent power for a while now. I'd LOVE to see him scale back and face one of these "faster" guys like Thurman or Bradley.
Mayweather would look as dominant as he did against GATTI.
I'm basically trying to say that, Floyd doesn't like fighting fighters with speed and movement.
He likes fighting slow fighters, who can't cope with his movement so that he could ''dance'' around them all night.
That's where you're mistaken (again). Floyd doesn't DANCE around these guys. He stands right in front of them and uses his superior instincts and acumen to beat them.
Floyd chose to take the 12th round off against Maidana because the fight was in the bag. Surely this is not your first time seeing a boxer do this.
Canelo may not be fast but name a fast fighter that beats him? Boxing is not all about speed. It's about speed, accuracy, IQ and toughness.
Canelo is better than any fighter (not named Pacquiao) that you can claim Floyd hasn't fought.
LOL @ guys like Tim Bradley and Thurman even posing a marginal threat to Floyd. SMH. You guys don't pay attention to detail. Period.
you're so having a meltdown
is there anyone in your office that can give you a hug right now?
If that's what you need to tell yourself buddy. LOL
I have a beautiful wife that will be taking care of that for me in a few minutes.
Until next time...
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:lol1: I can't believe they're this upset over this, 29 pages now.
C'mon Floyd fans, a woman in the UK didn't know who Floyd was, big whoop, get over it already.
Why are you TROLLING?
The only ones that are in an uproar in this thread are the Floyd Trolls. You guys never stop. Do you even take lunch breaks?