I mean he hasn't even fought a fast fighter in last 10 years.
Just have a look at some of his last opponents, Cotto,Ortiz,Guerrero,Canelo,Maidana,Maidana2 tho all are respectable fighters but 1 thing is common on all of them, they all lack lateral movement and speed and are flat footed.
Last time Mayweather fought a fast fighter was Zab Judah and in that fight he lost first 4 rounds and his 'gloves touched the canvas' after that he's not been in the ring with anyone fast or someone who could move.
''Plodders after Plodders after Plodders'', cmon now?
That makes me wonder if Mayweather is a 'Stylistic' CherryPicker, he only fights guys with 'Styles' that suit him.
Even before Zab Judah I couldn't find anyone fast on his resume. He fought Mosley but he was like 39 wayyy past his prime and wasn't known for anything substantial. Oscar was wayyy past his prime too and Floyd only managed a split decision win.
I just couldn't find any 'Stylistic Variation' on his resume, could you?
Can anyone name just 3 fast fighters with movement from Mayweather's resume? Thanks.!
How to snag a Mayweather fight.
1. Beat Berto or Broner
2. Be mediocre as **** coming off of a unexpected and/or decent win
3. Don't have any hand speed and move like your stuck in quicksand
Wallah, there's your laughable 1.5 million and no PPV shares.
Great thread, Mayweather is a ducker, he'll never grow the balls to fight Amir Khan or Manny.
''Health comes first, mate''.
I could picture Mayweather saying that.
"My health comes 1st, mate."
I agree, to an extent.
We haven't seen him fight an elite level athlete.
The guys he has been fighting have, typically, not been stylistically versatile.
Even the game developer knew it was cheesy....i mean there was even a different icon awarded for wins with a throw.
Every time I win with a throw, there is never a cheesy icon. It's always just been a "V" for victory.
The only cheap move is SF2 is when you have one ounce of life left and you are blocking and your opponent throws a fireball and kills you. That's pretty much when you get awarded the brick of cheese.
The reason why throws are fair game is because they can be avoided simply by crouching. There is defense against throws.
I'm nerdy enough that I sometimes watch the professional guys who get paid to play SF in tournaments. These are the king nerds of SF2 and they're always using throws when the opportunity is there.
I mean he hasn't even fought a fast fighter in last 10 years.
Just have a look at some of his last opponents, Cotto,Ortiz,Guerrero,Canelo,Maidana,Maidana2 tho all are respectable fighters but 1 thing is common on all of them, they all lack lateral movement and speed and are flat footed.
Last time Mayweather fought a fast fighter was Zab Judah and in that fight he lost first 4 rounds and his 'gloves touched the canvas' after that he's not been in the ring with anyone fast or someone who could move.
''Plodders after Plodders after Plodders'', cmon now?
That makes me wonder if Mayweather is a 'Stylistic' CherryPicker, he only fights guys with 'Styles' that suit him.
Even before Zab Judah I couldn't find anyone fast on his resume. He fought Mosley but he was like 39 wayyy past his prime and wasn't known for anything substantial. Oscar was wayyy past his prime too and Floyd only managed a split decision win.
I just couldn't find any 'Stylistic Variation' on his resume, could you?
Can anyone name just 3 fast fighters with movement from Mayweather's resume? Thanks.!
And Zabs gas tank usually lasted max 6 rounds :lol1:
Pac agreed to testing? Was it agreed upon because Pac said so? Pac doesn't even have anything to do with the negotiations to be honest. All he has to do is sign.
Did he sign a contract that agreed to it? If so, was that when 50/50 was taken off of the table because of the DUCKING HE DID and wasted time that took place during the first negotiation? If he agreed and was magically cured of his fear of needles, why couldn't he do it the first time?
Do you agree that Pac DUCKED Floyd during the first negotiation? Why can't you answer the question?
Did you ever think that just maybe after agreeing to 50/50 (when honestly it should have never been agreed to in the first place), after dealing with the snake, Arum, whom he never wanted to work with again after leaving him, after having wasted time and effort during initial negotiations, sitting through a staged negotiation by Arum, bs demands of a new stadium being built, being told a cut needed an outrageous amount of time to heal....did you ever think that maybe Mayweather decided enough was enough and he was done with these clowns? Open your eyes.
By the way...still waiting for an answer to that question, pac boys. If Marquez and Pac agreed to everything down to the ring size, gloves to be worn, money, who walks out first, whose name goes on the posters first, etc etc, and Pacquaio signs the contract but Marquez refuses to because he doesn't want drug testing, would you ever argue that Pacuaio ducked Marquez or the other way around?
I don't expect an answer, by the way. Seems like an appropriate time to say:
/thread
to answer your question, everybody would say marquez is ducking and is on steroids.
Pac agreed to testing? Was it agreed upon because Pac said so? Pac doesn't even have anything to do with the negotiations to be honest. All he has to do is sign.
Did he sign a contract that agreed to it? If so, was that when 50/50 was taken off of the table because of the DUCKING HE DID and wasted time that took place during the first negotiation? If he agreed and was magically cured of his fear of needles, why couldn't he do it the first time?
Do you agree that Pac DUCKED Floyd during the first negotiation? Why can't you answer the question?
Did you ever think that just maybe after agreeing to 50/50 (when honestly it should have never been agreed to in the first place), after dealing with the snake, Arum, whom he never wanted to work with again after leaving him, after having wasted time and effort during initial negotiations, sitting through a staged negotiation by Arum, bs demands of a new stadium being built, being told a cut needed an outrageous amount of time to heal....did you ever think that maybe Mayweather decided enough was enough and he was done with these clowns? Open your eyes.
By the way...still waiting for an answer to that question, pac boys. If Marquez and Pac agreed to everything down to the ring size, gloves to be worn, money, who walks out first, whose name goes on the posters first, etc etc, and Pacquaio signs the contract but Marquez refuses to because he doesn't want drug testing, would you ever argue that Pacuaio ducked Marquez or the other way around?
I don't expect an answer, by the way. Seems like an appropriate time to say:
/thread
No time to waste with your hypotheticals to argue your point. A signed contract from 1 person doesnt mean a thing. Fact is there have been already 4 fights with Pac and JMM.
Boxing acumen and superior instincts? You mean clinch clinch and more clinching and pay Bayless off so that he can hold and hold and break Maidana off when he has a free hand? You gotta be kidding....only Floyd fans can turn a blind eye to those shenanigans. Those are not the tactics of an ATG.
If any of you have played Street Fighter...it's like being thrown every time you get close to your opponent. Super cheesy.
so the clinch master Hopkins isn't an atg?
We already know he refused the fight because of drug testing. There is no link needed.
The bottom line is all the evidence points to Mayweather signing a contract for this fight. All the evidence points to Pac never signing the contract.
Just answer my question. If Marquez and Pac agreed to a fight, but Marquez pulled out because he didn't want to do drug testing, who would you say was ducking? That's really all I need to know.
It's part of negotiations...just because May is the A side doesn't mean a fight will be made just on his demands...they have to be agreed and negotiated upon. Like I said before a a signed contract doesn't mean a thing. I can send you a signed contract to fight you if you agree that I get 99% of the revenue. If you decline to sign does that mean you're ducking? No.
And the drug testing part is already agreed upon so stop repeating a broken record. It appears that new conditions have now been added by May now that existing demands are agreed upon. Then he brings up lame excuses that this fighter had Joe schmoe problems or has tax problems....like who gives a F. He has fought boxers before with unavenged losses so why the hold up with Pacman. Just inconsistent and lame excuses.
We already know he refused the fight because of drug testing. There is no link needed.
The bottom line is all the evidence points to Mayweather signing a contract for this fight. All the evidence points to Pac never signing the contract.
Just answer my question. If Marquez and Pac agreed to a fight, but Marquez pulled out because he didn't want to do drug testing, who would you say was ducking? That's really all I need to know.
don't know why floyidiots keep spouting this crap Pac has at numerous points said he agrees to all floyd's testing demands.
How history will remember this.
Floyd mayweather:
"Health comes first
he got marquez problems
he gotta knock out bradley
he gotta take 0% of PPV
he gotta dump Arum
He gotta join TMT and give me a few fights..."
Manny Pacquiao
"I'll fight him for free"
/end thread.
There should be a video of Pac saying he won't risk being busted for PED's to make this fight. How's that?
Where's the link? And Mayweather has been working with Heredia and Ariza lately....so why you reaching for that angle?
BWAHAHAHAHA..."A video of floyd SAYING he signed the contract?" LOL.
The same Floyd who said "And yes Pacquiao, you're next" only to turn around and say ..."I never said that. Dont put words in my mouth" :nonono:
Or this...
Floyd Mayweather COWARD won't risk health to figh…: http://youtu.be/rEOMruj71gk
"A source with knowledge" claims he signed. I have a video of Mayweather saying he signed that contract. I've also got links that say not only that he signed the contract, but that the contract was retrieved by Yahoo sports. If Pac signed that contract, there would have been a fight.
http://www.examiner.com/article/mayweather-shown-the-money-and-signs-to-fight-pacquiao
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--floyd-mayweather-and-manny-pacquiao-nearly-agreed-to-a-2010-fight.html
The video is of Mayweather saying not only that he has a copy of the signed contract, but also showing off the gear that he had made ready for the Pac fight. It's common knowlege that Pac backed out because of drug testing, so I don't know how this "source" claims he signed that contract.
BWAHAHAHAHA..."A video of floyd SAYING he signed the contract?" LOL.
The same Floyd who said "And yes Pacquiao, you're next" only to turn around and say ..."I never said that. Dont put words in my mouth" :nonono:
Courtesy of Wikipedia
"On December 5, 2009, ESPN reported that Pacquiao signed a contract to fight Mayweather on March 13, 2010. Shortly afterward, Pacquiao denied ever signing a contract to fight Mayweather, telling FanHouse, "There are still some things that need to be negotiated."
Shortly after, he agreed to fight Clottey. Guess that "source" was full of ****e.
He disagreed in the window for drug testing I believe. However he has since agreed to Olympic drug testing
Of course once that is agreed upon, May come up with fight must be signed thru TMT, no Bob Arum, feather gloves, in MGm grand, Kenny Bayless officiates, yadda yadda yadda. It never ends.
There is nothing cheesy about throwing in Street Fighter. I never understood why people get whiny when I throw them.
Even the game developer knew it was cheesy....i mean there was even a different icon awarded for wins with a throw.
Boxing acumen and superior instincts? You mean clinch clinch and more clinching and pay Bayless off so that he can hold and hold and break Maidana off when he has a free hand? You gotta be kidding....only Floyd fans can turn a blind eye to those shenanigans. Those are not the tactics of an ATG.
If any of you have played Street Fighter...it's like being thrown every time you get close to your opponent. Super cheesy.
There is nothing cheesy about throwing in Street Fighter. I never understood why people get whiny when I throw them.
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