WTF is cotto doing trying to win by decision??? cotto has a huge size advantage... anything less than a KO is a disappointment and shameful.
fighters dont choose to win by decision. it just happens. there is no disappointment in beating pacman
I would probably pick everyone in the 6 over him, but he'd have a shot. I like the guy, but I hate that after EVERY single ****ING goddamn FIGHT he says "If I had been 100%..." Just shut up! He even said it after this one!
HAHAHAH your right bro every damn fight. i heard him during rounds look over to someone and say FLAT!! and shake his head. come on bro just stop making excuses and fight
None, maybe Chambers but I doubt it. Dimitrenko made Chambers look insanely great, I don't think Dimintrenko was all that good. I believe Chambers exposed Dimitrenko in that fight, I mean who the f did Dimitrenko even fight before Chambers?
he hasnt fought anyone. they padded his record over there. eddie speed and movement will give anyone problems i think
I think Sylvester Stallone didn't really belong either.
HAHAH sylvester stallone is a fool. i remember when my boy sergio mora was beating manfredos ass on the finale. this foo said "wow this is the fight of the year!!" HAHAH the contender could have done a lot of things. 1) show more training footage 2) show the entire round
I agree, I was never high on him even after the Codrington victory.
exactly. he caught jaidon with a good shot and put him to sleep. what has he done after that to make him a serious contender to the other 6
You forgot Sanchez who Pac drew with, there are alot of good fighters that Marquez beat other than those guys.
the sanchez fight was a tech draw due to clash of heads. good resume but pac is a lil more impressive
# Hatton beat an old Tszyu who quit on the stool and Hatton had the advantage of a ref that was more than favorable to his style.
# Stepped up in weight to Welterweight to almost lose to Luis Collazo.
# Beating an old, bad Castillo
# Losing to Mayweather.
# Getting rocked by Lazcano and arguably having the ref save you.
# Beating the lightest puncher of all time.
# Embarrassed by Pacquiao.
THANK YOU!!!!! ENOUGH SAID. finally someone see's the same points i pointed out in previous hatton chats. hahah
ricky hatton was exposed in the collazo fight. he cant take a punch and isnt comfortable getting hit so thats why he smothers on the inside. he is not a HOF. he came to america and fought the 2 best P4P in the world and lost. just beacause he fought them makes him a HOF. NO!!!! he aint even the best fighter in england. fight junior witter in england for your farewell fight and call it a day. then maybe he will be a HOF IN ENGLAND BUT NEVER A HOF IN AMERICA
So being popular is simply the key to the HoF. Shit, somebody get Tye Fields' ticket ready since he'll be a shoe in from our comments alone.
If it's purely based on things like that are we throwing in Gatti, Ward, or Augustus? Shit, they're entertaining and fans love 'em.
exactly. from a boxing stand point he does not deserve to be in the HOF. popularity votes shouldnt count. yea he was a champ for yrs but from a boxing stand point who has he fought and beaten. and look at the fighters he did beat and where they were at at that point of there careers. i been telling people for almost 9 yrs that this guy is overratted
I am not a Huge Hatton fan...but call him just an "OK fighter" is dubious IMO ! And "ok fighters" Dont reach his level and do as well IMO !
Nore financially for that matter:boxing:
what exactly is his level. 2 titles in 2 divisions? which was a close fight with louie but a lot of people including myself believe he lost. back then the UK had very little to brag about as far as boxing. so they saw ricky as a guy to follow. so they padded his record. he got a huge fan base and made a lot of money TRUE but skill wise he is very limited and very average
i wouldnt call him a bum. i would say he's average. he was hyped up by people and feed average fighters. he has a huge fan base. so they set him up for stardom. as soon as he stepped up to elite comp he was exposed. he's an ok fighter. ok fighters do win championships by the way so dont use that he won world titles crap.
A prime tua? A prime tua got worked and fought like a bitch against lewis!!! Im so disappointed in tua for that. I thought he was the next tyson. Wow i was wrong. Hahha wlad mops the floor with him
he just got exposed. people where affraid to fight him. once a guy stepped up and said forget that and fight him. he got beat up. to answer the question he was a good fighter that was hyped up
prime tua didn't weigh 255 lbs.
but prime tua when he fought lewis fought like a bitch is what im saying. so he's older now and he's skills are very limited. ala jeff lacy. he gets his socks boxed off by wlad all day. first and foremost he has to deal with shane cameron
What you read on boxrec doesn't tell the story. KO'ing the likes of Rahman and Ruiz does not make you an elite fighter. Hanging around the top 10 for 8 years only tells you that he was a good fighter who never made it to the top.
Tua could ONLY fight if a guy stood in front of him. That is fact.
love the points you make bro. one of the few cats on here who actually know boxing
a 9-0 record is not padded. he was a prospect who fought a very experienced veteran. he needs to fight guys with similar records to him and build him up that way. a guy with almost 50 more professional fights than you is a tough fight regardless.
I agree, yet the other guy had 6 consecutive losses- not the pattern of a true challenge for a prospect who is supposed to be a champ in the future IMO.
yea i understand your point but sometimes experience beats talent. experienced fighters know how to deal with up and comers. look at what emanuel augustus does to up and comers. also 1 loss doesnt say he cant be a champ in the future. he just has to make adjustments and his team has to put the right fighters infront of him leading up to him getting a shot at a title.
i think the word overated is overated on here..hattons been the man at 140 for 4 years..he's a champ...
hatton has been the man at 40 you say? what top guys in that division at that time did he beat?
You asked for rankings, I gave you rankings and now you say "oh well now that I've been shown to be wrong i'll discount them..."
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Junior_Welterweight--2000s .
top quality fighters is what i meant. i never specified RANKINGS!! you as a boxing fan should know those are not top fighters. castillo yes. but at that time no. maussa never. lazcano was good at lightweight yrs ago. paulie solid. urango solid as well. in my opinion there were more credible fighters at that time for ricky to face.
Tzsyu - Ring belt holder
Castillio - Ring ranked no1
Malinaggi - Ring ranked no2
Maussa - Ring ranked no6
Lazcano - ring ranked No7
Urango wasn't ranked when hatton fought him but has since risen to 5th dispite the loss.
how can castillo be ranked 1 at JWW with only fighting at 40 once before.
malinaggi has fought who to get that title. ndou!!!
maussa gets in a big shot on vivian harris. but other than that hasnt did shit in his career.
lazcano hasnt fought in 2 yrs before he fought ricky.
rankings are not always good sources to go by. look at the resume and really judge from there
the competition between 2 men who train hard. the sweet science. not just throwing punches. there is a art in boxing and i love to see people show it. as i do myself. the mutual respect for one another after a match. the passion and rejoice after a victory knowing all the hard work paid off. i can go on forever
Like Who?
Tzsyu was the best in the division in 05, hell he beat the 2nd best in teh division 6 months before he fought Hatton.
Castillio is better than anything else in 06/07, who you going to put above him? Harris? don't make me laugh.
malinaggi was better than anothing in the Division in 08, who else is above malinaggi? Holt or Torres maybe, Rees? I mean seriously who is he avoiding?
if you bring up Junior "shitter" Witter i'll laugh in your face, the guys a Joke battered by the first talented boxer he stepped up against, hatton would have him out of there inside 4 rounds, Witter is on the Stewart/Oilivera level of fighters, look at his resume, the one good performance in his entire career was against Harris and he got KTFO by Maussa!
tzsyu fought twice in a yr and a half span. let alone fought ricky at 1 in the morning.
castillo bro are you serious. he was a seriously shot fighter just fighting for the money.
malinaggi who has he fought? ndou!! the same ndou who got his ass kicked by witter
just so you can laugh in my face i will bring up witter. hahha if you put him in the same sentence with stewart and olivera your crazy. ive noticed a lot of people in the UK have a lot of harse words to say about witter. can i ask why
Fighters are suppose to fight fighters and the best at that...tell me this, why is it that floyd fought baldomir and won,t fight margarito???
because floyd wanted to unify the titles. and picked a low risk opponent to capture that extra title
No way Pac should get 50. Hatton has been a much bigger draw in boxing then Pac has. Yeah Hatton has an L but it was against the best fighter in the game. Pac has more losses then Hatton. You said that Hatton wouldnt beat Oscar the same way but Hatton could say that Pac would also have another L if he wouldve fought Floyd at WW. It might not be true but you could easily argue that. The bottom line is that if there is any fight in history that was made for a 50/50 split, its this one. Pac is super exciting but it wasnt long ago that people were saying that Hatton was the most exciting guy in boxing. It should be 50/50,
hatton has been a bigger draw in the UK not in the US. i dont think hatton should get a 50/50 split. hatton hasnt dont much as of late. honestly he resume isnt too impressive. he beat an old ring rusty kosta. was in deep water against collazo. and should of lost that fight. got stopped by mayweather and almost got stopped by lazcano. and they were not saying hatton was the most exciting guy in boxing. he has a hold and hit style which is not exciting
I agree in your statement except for that they are almost perfect matched. Look at pacmans resume and look at Hattons for the exception of Tzyu Hatton hasn't done anything.
the kosta win still doesnt impress me. kosta was inactive for a very long time. and he was fighting at 1 in the morning. come on man.