Remember this is Chavez Sr. your talking about. If you ask him he will tell you he never lost a fight he had so many excuses it was ridiculous. And judging from Margarito's pathetic excuses looks like he took some post fight interview classes from Chavez. Plus Chavez hates puertoricans with a passion.
Barrera is nothing but class a great fighter inside the ring and unlike Chavez a great gentlemen outside of it. One of my favorite fighters of all time. Same goes for Marquez two great mexican warriors that have earned the respect of all boxing fans for their class inside the ring and outside.
Cotto's downfall was Joe FKN Santiago.
I wouldn't say he'd certainly beat Pacquiao but he would make it a close fight with Diaz in his corner and has a good chance of beating Pacquiao @ 147-150.
I somewhat agree but ultimately it was Cotto's own fault for giving Santiago that role. He wasn't even close to being a suitable man for the task and probably let Cotto do as he pleased during training.
Cotto and his team thought that they could steamroll Pac and that was their ultimate undoing. He fought to Pac's strenghts and wasn't conditioned for a fight of this caliber. I think with Diaz in his corner he would fair a hell of a lot better and it will be a much closer fight than many think it will be.
He won a couple with Pac and whats interesting here, is that on all three judges card for the cotto rematch.
Each judge gave Margarito 1 round but they were all different.
Round 4 round 7 and round 9 with three rounds left in the fight so if someone saw the fight that way, which mine was close to that I only had given him round 4 and 9 but lets say someone had that score the fight is still on the table at the time they stopped it there was three rounds left
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He hasn't they might have given him a round or two because he looked better not because he won them.
Chavez is bias but what was worse was the whole HBO team and their proven bias against a certain fighter, in this case Margarito, the last time was marquez.
No one expected Margarito to outbox Cotto, we all expected him if anything to stop him the championship rounds. Honestly, the fight was a carbon copy of the first fight, so when people say ya cotto was winning, well no sh!t he was winning, we expected that.
But honestly, Cotto really wasnt dominating as badly as people were saying, and Cotto was on the move the whole fight, but if Margaritos punching didnt affect him why would he move so much? I also saw Margarito land a lot more than people give him credit for, people are so bias its ridiculous.
I would not say Cotto clearly won because the same thing happened in the first fight, except they didnt stop it in the 9th.
Delusion at it's finest. If you say that enough you might actually start to believe it.
I would only entertain this just for the perverse thoughts of seeing Bradley taken out on a stretcher. I hate that dude
+1
I would love to see Cotto beat the shyt out of Timmy.
Yeah cus Judges are required to feel sorry for a fighter and give him rounds he didnt win right?
Shut the **** up
Butthurt? puta.
What round for certain did he win against Pac, Mosley or Cotto. Some Judges like giving fighters on the bad side of one sided beatdowns a round or two for looking better than they did before.
I really wish the fight would've gone on. That way, Cotto could've legitimately STOPPED Margarito, and I could've had SEVERAL laughs by reading comments by people like Dirk Diggler and Maniac as they spun it.
If Cotto had knocked down Margarito with a left hook he didn't see coming (because of the eye), and he was unable to get up at the count of 10, they would've said: "If Margarito's eye was good, that wouldn't have happened! Stupid ref! Margarito was up at the count of 9.75 seconds! FIX!"
If Cotto had stopped Margarito with a left hook to the body, they would've said: "Whoop dee doo! Tony could've gotten up! He just refused to do so. Also, I think the punch was low."
If Cotto had trapped Margarito against the ropes and unleashed a barrage on him prompting Smoger to get in there, they would've said: "WTF?! That was a quick stoppage! Smoger's the worst ref in the business! Margarito was playing possum! Haven't you guys ever seen the rope-a-dope?! Go read on your history, newbs!"
If Cotto had hit Margarito with a left hook and knocked him out Pacquiao/Hatton style, they would've said: "Well see, now that's just fake! Margarito was just taking a nap from all the hard work he's put in his career! He's a warrior! Ref should've called time in and let Tony earn his rest! Stupid Smoger!"
VOTE NOW FOR WHICH ONE YOU THINK IS THE BEST!!! :rofl:
LOL, I'll go with this one.
Maniac is playing, retarded Stones and Dirk Diggler are dead serious.
Cotto wanted to knock him the fuk out. He was pushing him back and throwing bombs not only that he was starting to go to the body again. If the fight would've gone on Cheato was going to get ktfo by a viscous left hook to the body. The doctor saved Cheato.
Wow and you call yourself a fan of the sport, I would respect it more had you wished that on me, but on my son, where you at in seattle? PM me where I can find you
LOL, someone ban this fool for excesive nuthugging and e thugging.
First off, I gave Cotto nothing but props after the Marg fight. You must be mistaken me with the stupid little kids here, I'm not the one so relax with that bull.sh1t.
Second, you contradict yourself. You say he will quit, then say he went life and death with Berto...which is it?
Let's cut the bullsh1t out, Ortiz isn't some pu$$y you are making him out to be, he's a professional fighter who is very skillful and has youth on his side.
I don't think he will quit vs Cotto, that was one loss against Maidana and I think he learned his lessons from the things he said, He has that right since he's still a young guy.
Cotto isn't shot but he's not the same monster we saw at 140lbs walking through people and breaking them down with body shots. I think in order for Cotto to survive into his later years in the boxing game, he needs to reinvent himself as a boxer and mover.
If he stands in a fire fight with Ortiz, I truly believe Ortiz will get the better of him and possibly KO him.
He could out box Ortiz, I will definitely give him that advantage but you still think it's 2007. I know the Marg victory feels good but calm yourself.
I read your post you did give Cotto props but as usual say something extra to diminish him. After giving Cotto props you go on to say that Margo is beyond shot thus taking away credit from Cotto's win. You also said the same thing about Mayorga and in both cases this is simply not true. Both Cheato and Mayorga could still give lots of trouble to most fighters out there and would beat a lot of them.
I'm not going to keep arguing about a fight that will likely never happen but I think you are dead wrong. You think to little of Cotto and too much of Ortiz.
no need to act tough, it is what it is
Cotto is a mental midget, and he folds under pressure, and yes, he was showing signs of slowing down, no need to be in his head, it could be seen
he was almost running away (he was in fact) near the end, he wasn't throwing much and Margarito was starting to connect quite a bit, particularly on the inside
who knows what would have happened in those last 3 rounds, it's clear they would have been the best rounds for Margarito, and Cotto was stopped in the 11th of their first fight
you are the typical fan who hates on Margarito so much that you don't want to assess the rematch fairly
believe me, I don't idolize people who fight with bricks in their hands, but I try to remain objective, and last night, Cotto was saved, perhaps, by boxing politics
in any case, Margarito should have been allowed to finish the fight
What fight was this idiot watching?
Cotto's face looked unusually battered for not having **** done to it. Emannuel Steward and the whole HBO crew were watching some fantasy playing out in their own heads, part and parcel of that tiresome revenge kabuki they'd written for the evening - Margarito won the 9th (a great round - don't even Cotto fans want to see great boxing continued into the next round? No, because they're just relieved that the doc stopped it for them). In particular, Kellerman's comments to Margarito post-fight have to go down in the Most Humorous And Bald-Faced Biased Hall Of Shame.
Idiot, Cotto's face looked exactly the same after the Foreman fight. Cotto fans are more pissed off than anyone about the fight being stopped. Because unlike your delusional views of the fight the 9th round Cheato was getting hammered with much harder punches. Cotto was changing his strategygoing after Cheato sitting on his puncheas and trying to knock him the fuk out.
BTW although I'm a fan of Diaz and think he did a great job conditioning Cotto and making him hold and also push off Margarito, hearing Steward during the replay constantly saying Cotto should've stand his ground more and throw power shots on the inside in close range, made me kind of wished he was in Cotto's corner becuase I agree with him that Cotto should have stand there more and exchange with Margarito on the inside.
He was waiting for the right time to do that and just when he started implementing it. Out came that dumbfuk doctor to **** it all up. In univision they interviewed Diaz and he said he wished the fight wouldn't have been stopped to give the fan what they really wanted to see.
The Dr stopped it just before it was getting to that point but I can point to you several body shots that hurt Miguel I wouldnt expect someone from Seattle to know this as you guys get little exposure to the sport
http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/27/fortune_teller_gypsy_psychic_crysta.jpg
LOL, what a tard.
I am sorry, I disagree Cotto was slowing down, at the end of that round Margarito made a gesture to his corner on his way back with his gloves, basically saying Miguel was done he had nothing, and suddenly the Dr stops the fight.
I do not believe if the fight continued that Miguel would have made it through rounds 10, 11 and 12 there were three rounds left not two as people have been saying. and Cotto never once hurt Margarito he got at that eye but thats it.
Sure he did land nice shots and boxed beautifully the first half of the fight but it started looking like a repeat of the first fight even HBO stated this in the middle rounds.
However this is no way revenge, you dont claim victory and say you got revenge when your opponent leaves the ring in your back yard smack talking the **** out of you in front of your people, revenge is where you shut his ****ing mouth and that didnt happen.
I am going to be real the way Miguel beat Tony on saturday is the only way he can beat Tony, is to have bigger gloves, the fight in the garden, Nazim Richardson and a catch weight agreement only to win like that all that work for that type of win how pathetic.... whats worse is those who are actually happy that it ended that way...
:bottle::bottle::bottle:Typical butthurt nuthugger filled his mouth talking a lot of **** before the fight now he has to swallow it back. Grow up excuses are for f@gs.
Is there one Puerto Rican who thinks Cotto would lose to Ortiz?
I mean, I just hope this fight happens. But it won't. Ortiz would jump at the chance at fighting Cotto, but Cotto would say something like, well can Ortiz get $5million dollars? Like he did to Martinez. Cotto doesn't want to fight none of the top 10 guys. He wants Chavez Jr who is ranked #6 at MW, I am very surprised somewhat, but then again it's Chavez Jr, easy fight. If this fight gets made, and Ortiz crushes Cotto, people will just say Cotto is past it. All of that "refreshed", "renewed" crap will turn in to "he's shot", "he's past prime". Cotto hasn't beaten a good top 10 ranked fighter in years but he wins all of these fantasy match ups. He couldn't even beat Clottey and he barely got passed Mosley so I don't know why any one would bring up the Mosley fight to compare how Ortiz-Cotto would look like, like if that fight was something good. He barely got by that fight, it was a draw, even numbers and everything. Just that it was at MSG.
What an idiot. This idiot is a Mayweather nuthugger to the fullest and since he hardly fights he descredits all the fighters out there to make his hero look better. If Cotto faces Ortiz it will be like the Quintana fight with Cotto knocking him the fuk out in 6 but unlike Mayweather he won't need to sucker punch him.
I think the pro Cotto fans don't want to admit that this isn't the same guy we saw in 2007, 2008.
Cotto is the better fighter than Ortiz when it comes to resume, there's no doubt about that.
I personally think this is a tough fight for Cotto because Ortiz is younger, stronger and faster. Not saying Cotto's boxing would be a great help to him but this wouldn't be a slow margarito standing there to get hit.
Ortiz can move and his left hand comes fast, real fast. He's also a very good inside fighter and his right hook is deadly.
I wouldn't be surprised if Cotto won but I also think most Cotto fans don't want to admit that Ortiz could hurt Cotto and possibly put him away if he did.
And you want to make it seem like he's shot. Face it you find it hard to give Cotto credit and always use something to diminish his wins and abilities.
You forget that Ortiz is easily broken, he went life and death with Berto and was beyond frustrated against Mayweather in only four rounds. If Berto was able to last the full 12 against Ortiz I have absolutely no doubt that at lthe very least Cotto can do the same. If this fight ever happens as soon as Cotto starts to pound him I have absolutely no doubt he'll cave in.
Really, "idiot"? That's how it works here when disagreeing? LOL, noted. Anyway, the Cotto fans sitting all around me at MSG seemed relieved (not pissed) when the fight was called. A few even started to roar with delight when Cotto's glove needed attending earlier, thinking that the fight had been called. To me, Cotto was "changing his strategy" towards holding and running because he had nothing left.
To me, like Cheato you're in desperate need of an eye doctor.
the fuck you talking about? You need proof of me being from chicago?
Do you know how many fighters are dumb as bricks? I wouldn't give a flying fuck if you were 90-0 as a pro, I've seen enough posts of yours to know your IQ is that of a borderline retard. Good luck to your kid though, hope he gets a brain hemorrhage.
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picture of Margarito making fun of Cotto quitting like a b1tch on his knees:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/chris_mannix/07/26/cotto.fight.blog/T1_0726_margarito_miller.jpg
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/10551/capt.86be19964ed546dbbb4332e5f5710ed0.cotto_margarito_boxing_nvrc101.jpg
:haha:Still butthurt