I think possibly the majority of boxing fans (other than unyielding Klitschko fans) would agree that Vitali is afraid of Haye after Haye has been calling him out since September 2011, as seen in this story> and many other articles and video interviews which followed..
The question is, for how long would you say Vitali has been afraid of Haye? Is it all the way back since 2011, or was it after Haye knocked out Chisora (something Vitali himself wasn't capable of doing)?
It is disappointing to see Vitali Klitschko reduced to this. I'll be honest, for a while he was my favorite HW boxer, and he still remains one of my favorites, but to see him cower and hide from Haye in this manner is quite an unfortunate turn of events.
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What's up @OscarDeLaHoya and @BronzeBomber? D's coach here. Lets make that big American Showdown happen. You know..TT VS DW...
lol, Wilder about to get KO'd
Jay Deas is an awesome guy when Wilder was in camp. IMO wilder KO's TT
How can cherry picking a guy that he beat the **** out of in sparring (according to Wlad's waitress) add anything to his resume.
:loser::fu2::fing26::****you: You wish you could be as close to boxing as I am
NO. Anyone who says yes has no clue about what Vitali is thinking at all. The guy is 41, has been talking about retirement for the last 2-3 fights.... now haye says fight me, and vitali should just forget his own thoughts about retirement just to satisfy Haye? PLEASE!!!!!
Vitali is going to decide stop, or fight on, then and only then will a fight with haye come into the picture if vitali fights on. Haye has NOTHING to do with vitalis decision
Price is a nice guy and IMO he is best to stay away from Wlad. He is a good fighter, but getting in the ring with Wlad is a MASSIVE step up..... no need to rush it... but if they want it... im sure wlad will be happy to take on another undefeated fighter
I see a theme... Talk **** about Wlad... dont fight.... talk **** about price..... dont fight
another HW that talks talks and talks about fighters, but wont fight them when the chance is brought to him
Will be funny as hell if Wlad gets knocked out by Pinata though.
Rofl.
That will be four KO Defeats.
NEVER gonna happen. Wlad will become FULLY UNIFIED CHAMPION and will not lose again before he retires
Have you actually bought those medals for yourself?! LOL :D
It's not the perfect fight, but well better than nothing. It should be fun as long as it lasts.
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Yeah, I was actually thinking about that after reading edgarg's post. The alphabet boys gotta get their money.
they are a pain in the ass. The WBO and the IBO are the coolest of the bunch IMO. WBA is a pain and a joke along with the IBF.... WBC is no picnic either
You don't need a title at stake for a public execution.
even if wlad didnt want it to be a "title on the line" fight... the sanctioning bodies would freak out... they want their sanctioning fees
Dan,
I hope you read this. Firstly I want to introduce myself. My name is Tom Tsatas and I own the 5th St Gym and I am Fres Oquendo’s manager. I would like to ask you when was the last time you were punched in the face? Also I am surmising the last time you were in a ring there was probably a donut or a piece of meat in there. Your comments on your article suggests are about as intelligent as a grain of sand, same as your brain capacity.
Firstly, Fres has NEVER been knocked out. Or seriously hurt. Unlike Vitali he has never quit like a loser on a stool like Vitali did against Byrd ,who Fres clearly beat. He has never lost to a guy like Ross Purity or Cory Sanders and would have NEVER be humiliated by Lamon Brewster. So before you attempt to go down to your knees for a fellatio session with Klit next time please try and control yourself.
If you really knew Heavyweights (boxing that is, because I am sure you have plenty of Heavy weighted fatties around the buffet table daily) you would know enough about Fres’ talents. Nearly 300 pro rounds at HW, (More than anyone except Vlad who has a few more) against legitimate champions and hall of famers in their home town, country or promoters’ cards. Some of those fights YOU yourself have called them robberies The real truth is Fres wont get chosen by these weak, no heart, quitter paper champions because they know they cannot beat Fres. As proof I offer that Fres was in Vitali’s camp and frustrated him, got the best of him, busted him up and dropped him.
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100% NO TRUE. During Vitali's camps along with Nutrition, Im the trainer for the sparring partners corner. I watched EVERY ROUND of sparring with Fres. DID NOT DROP VITALI. Actually the sparring wasnt that great as Fres was always on the outside and didnt exchange much. Fres has a nice jab, but that was about it
Chef, you do guys ever video record Wlad/Vitali's sparring sessions? I've seen a lot of photos but would love to see video of the actual sessions. Wilder-Wlad would be awesome..
We do have a guy who records sparring. We (vitali, fritz, me and the physical therapist) watch it during dinner. Then its recorded over the next day. For wlad, I watch with him during lunch the day after the sparring
We never allow the public tape sparring so that it doesnt get to the other side showing strategy or anything like that
Because Atlas SUCKS and is a head case. from many people in boxing, I have heard he has an very very quick temper and can be hard to work with... I dont think HBO or Showtime wanna touch that
lol, smh. the fact that u say it so easily tells me u have no idea how good and dangerous prime bowe is. so this doesnt even dignify a real response.
I dont know what "saying it so easily" means... but Ill say it again..... NO WAY bowe beats either klitschko let alone both
Just because he didn't dominate him and outjabbed him, it automatically means all rounds were close? LOL
Have you ever been in Ukraine, punk?
Dude.. it Haye fanboy logic
"Wlad won every round but didnt dominate".... I thought winning EVERY round makes it a dominating performance.... these are the same guys who say "with a healthy toe, Haye wins":lol1:
its a joke
whats funny to me is how many Haye fans say "Wlad didnt dominate Haye" and then also say "Haye dominated Valuev".... yeah right with 8.9 punches per round..... If Haye dominated Valuev, then haye was dominated by Wlad.... Im just giving it back to the Haye fans
Vit gets a few million, like 2 or 3 a fight max! Vs Haye he will get like 6+
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you read this where? cause its not even close... way more than 2-3 million a fight
if you train hard enough, does it really matter what u put in your body
look at swimmer michael phelps, dude eats like some of us... dont talk metabolism, he trains real hard
ok, in boxing u gotta get your weight down but why not just fight at your natural weight as well as go hard instead of killing your self to make weight then rehydrating like a dinosaur
pac n may dont kill themselves to make weight
james toney ate comfortably, successful in higher weights.
yes ofcourse he was fleshy but boxing is about fitness not physique
put it this way.......
you can have the best engine money can buy in your car..... put in the best fuel you can, and the engine will run like a champ, put in garbage fuel, and that engine will breakdown and not perform at its best.... your body is the same way when you are on the level of a pro athlete
Stop attacking a straw man buddy. I have never said that. Not once mentioned the Valuev fight. I'm a Haye fan so there goes your (failed) generalisation.
And to the other guy who red k'd me for some reason, yes I have. Sure you may love your country or whatever, but I sure didn't feel safe there and I wasn't the one loudmouthing a Ukrainian idol either. What's wrong with Germany? You know, the place he has fought nearly all of the time from his comeback.
I never said YOU said that. I was making a statement of what many many haye fans have said
if you train hard enough, does it really matter what u put in your body
look at swimmer michael phelps, dude eats like some of us... dont talk metabolism, he trains real hard
ok, in boxing u gotta get your weight down but why not just fight at your natural weight as well as go hard instead of killing your self to make weight then rehydrating like a dinosaur
pac n may dont kill themselves to make weight
james toney ate comfortably, successful in higher weights.
yes ofcourse he was fleshy but boxing is about fitness not physique
double post.....see below
I applaud HBO for standing up and doing the right thing, why continue to pay the Klits millions for fighting bums.
Its far from millions. I cant say how much... but much less then you think.
This is bad for boxing... for get its the brothers... look at what he said. "we are out of the HW division". This is bad for boxing.
HBO losers... he says they fight in germany and its tape delay...yet they want Wlad, vitali, haye and adamak.... those will be germany (europe) for sure now.....dumbass!!!