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Should fall under reckless imprudence in damage to property. There's a fine and certain number of jail time for this

Assume all fighters are at their absolute peak. Roberto Duran vs Manny Pacquiao Floyd Mayweather, Jr. vs Henry Armstrong Sugar Ray Leonard vs Sugar Ray Robinson Aaron Pryor vs Julio Cesar Chavez Thomas Hearns vs Terence Crawford At their peaks? 1) Manny 2) Havent seen a whole Armstrong tape 3) Just like Armstrong 4) Chavez 5) Hearns (easiest pick)

But if the champs of the 40s did a time travel to the present? You guys think they'd do much against our boxers? I don't think so... Our boxing has tons of innovations, training, strategies and healthy supplements. The raw talents of the 40s will be stunned.

Where's Kovalev? He has to be included.

This is a silly argument. Floyd is considered better because his body if work is tremendous. His being undefeated fighting that level of competition deserves credit whether you hate him or not. Sugar ray Robinson, Ali, Leonard and others have losses but are just better than floyd. Manny isn’t. That is the difference. No one has ever made the argument you have to be undefeated to be the best ever so why even act like that was the argument? Big dunn... You have to go through the comments of your buddies. The only thing they say is Floyd has this 0 and he beat manny, that's why he's greater. MArciano beat Archie Moore and Joe Louis. That means marciano's bigger than them? That's how you guys are sounding Who has achieved more? MAnny or Floyd? That's the bottom line... That's where you should base it

Record is not the only factor in my ratings, but Floyd not only has the perfect record, but he also defeated an incredible amount of top fighters. I don't think there's a fighter in history that retired undefeated after facing the type of competition Floyd faced. Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez, Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Arturo Gatti, Marcos Maidana twice, Jose Luis Castillo twice, Robert Guerrero, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz, Carlos Baldomir, Angel Manfredy, Chop Chop Corley, Genaro Hernandez. Just an incredible list of opponents without a loss, draw or no contest. Ledwaba, MAB 2, JMM 3, EM 2, ODLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, SSM, Bradley, Broner (9yrs younger), Thurman (10yrs younger)... That's 21 vs 17... But hey, you have to remember Manny beating those champs especially mab, jmm and em while moving up... Isn't that a plus? Nah really... I have no idea why fans here keep saying Floyd's undefeated and that's a plus. Have no idea where its coming from

Would floyd be in contention if he had 7L's and 3 via ko? Nope, he will never be placed in a main event and esnews wont waster their time with him. Now Manny, given he has those 7 losses, people are still placing him in the top 5. That's how different it is... Floyd's undefeated that's why he's way better... Really?

1. Floyd 2. Calzaghe 3. Marciano Top 3 all time?

Floyd took the most cash and that's it, nothing else...

Damaged goods or not, pac dismantles Spence. Yep he will... The slow porter laid the blueprint. Pac will keep landing those combinations easily .

PAC even at age 41 has a 50/50 chance against Crawford. In his prime tho? He molly whips Crawford in 6-7 rounds. That's true... Terence wont have a chance a decade back. Manny will have a chance but i dont know about the 50/50... Its a young more talented JMM vs a 41y/o.

I just wanted to know if anyone sided with Canelo. That's why I reached psge 4 :D:D

Crawford is the only one PAC wont beat

Bradley has a better resume... Not sure if Terence can beat him... Tim has good defense and can take really strong punches, he wont change his game plan and keep pressuring Terence. Terence on the other hand is not used to going through 12 tough rounds, he will change his game plan... So as of now, I think Bradley will also beat him

The dude is 26 years old; this is his prime, lol. GTFOH with that BOOLCHIT! :boxing: :wtf: Kovalev started at 26 GGG at 24 Loma at 25

Found out he only has $7M? :frown: His career should be giving him at least $70M... Losing all that because of one careless hour :(

PAC won't knock him out but get a wide UD A '10 Margarito vs a '13 Alvarez should be a better match up

A big NO WAY :D Ward will have to go through bad judges, big politics and some Clenbuterol on the side.

The ko was legit but those scorecards?? Hands down it was on its way there... MAn Alvarez... With the judges and peds, how can you beat this guy?

Done with people marketing this spence guy... His last was enough to prove he's an ordinary good boxer. Manny comes up with his old game plan of not trying to impress anyone but freddie, it will be easy.

Could anyone here say Alvarez has surpassed MAB, JMM, JCC, EM and Salvador Sanchez among others? Crazy... A roid infected one surpassing these greats. These guys who relied on just multi vitamins and hard protein.

50 years from now when everything has died down, fans will base it on achievements not on specifics like "Floyd was more impressive when he beat..." or "Floyd never had a cut his whole career..." or "He's undefeated that's why he's even greater than SRR". They will base it on achievements and Manny wiping out 7 weight divisions definitely gets it. They will also base it on the impact to society like what The Greatest has done... Anyone here says Floyd beats Manny in that aspect?

He also has the highest chance to be the 2011-2020 Fighter of the Decade... We're talking about dominating for 20 years. What more does one want:dunno:

After his last fight, Manny has to start learning how to pace himself. No doubt he'd still be quicker. He'd be able to still land some punches that would hurt Errol.

No. First he can't beat them. 2nd almost got KOed by Lopez. Third he just barely beat Garcia and Porter. None of those things would happen to Mayweather. 8 divisions, biggest threat and still going for the best at 42... None of those things would happen to Mayweather.

. So let's say Floyd has 7 losses and 3 via ko... You think he'd be in contention at least? He won't... That is where him and Manny differ.

May Mitchell (Pure Meh) Zab (Quality win) Baldmir (That pervy cvnt. Caught lightning in a bottle 2x. Wasn't gonna be a 3rd) DLH (Quality win. May is older than Pac with less power and yet he had the stones to meet DLH at DLH's better weight) Hatton (Gave Hatton a brutal wake up call. You don't belong up here, son) JMM (Glorified sparring) Mosley (Had just CRUSHED Margarito. May toyed with him after that 2nd rd shot) Ortiz (Joke of a fight but he would have beaten the Lucas Pac fought) Cotto (The version that made Pac piss his pantys.) Guerrero (The equivalent of Algieri) ''Green'' Nelo (A shutout. No version of Pac would test Green Nelo) Maidana 2x (Judges scored a ton of arm punches and rough housing for Maidana. A rematch was not necessary. Maidana woud kill Rios and Horn). Pac (''Cut me Mick'' :lol1: ) Berto (Shlt fight but Berto beats Lucas, Rios and Horn). McGregor (Don't ask me how or why this was a billion dollar fight.......Oh yeah. It's a May event ! ) Pac couldn't survive this line up. Not without a ton of clauses and excuses. Manny: 2 Fighter of the Decade awards Dominated 8 weight classes Simple... You see where we differ?

Dominated? The hell are you talking about? Keef swept 6-9, would have won Round 10 if he hadn't reacted to that body shot, and took 11 clearly. He damn near won rounds 2, 3 and 5. Keef was anything BUT dominated. You're letting Rounds 1-4 sway you. It was a REALLY close fight. Without the KD I had it a draw, straight up. Manny definitely got the first 6 with a knockdown. Keith did not dominate the rounds after that. Aside from the 10th, those rounds were a toss up. And did you see how Keith looked like after the fight? Comapre it to Manny's... Fits the description right

Over a RAZOR THIN close decision? Numbers were close but its how he was dominated

Keith has to start from scratch, he won't get that PAC rematch... Earl and Terence won't even mind him. Just go for a Garcia or Porter rematch or Adrien Broner.