On Max on Boxing, Kellerman says Pacquiao's win over Keith Thurman added onto his many accomplishments makes him have a case to top the all time P4P list.
Two back to back Fighter of the Decade awards is one thing, but all time pound for pound fighter of all time is probably a bit of a stretch.
"FACT: Mayweather beat a BETTER version of Cotto"
Well, that is your opinion...
I just would like to point out that the era you called rubbish is the era that, as floyd appears to be your favorite, fights in..or fought in...as he is already retired....
1) I did not call any era rubbish
2) Mayweather is not my favorite fighter
who did he beat, with consideration given to when/how
with some (not as much, but some) consideration given to losses
FACT: Mayweather beat a BETTER version of Cotto
FACT: Cotto career had never been at a lower point than it was immediately prior to the Pacquiao fight, so Pac beating that version of Cotto..... is not better than Mayweather beating Cotto..... let alone better than Pacquiao, Canelo, or Marquez
NOT..... EVEN..... CLOSE !!
now there are 4 Mayweather wins that are better than anyone on Pacquiao's record..... not 3 like earlier
name 1 win better than Pac, Canelo, JMM..... go !!
"FACT: Mayweather beat a BETTER version of Cotto"
Well, that is your opinion...
I just would like to point out that the era you called rubbish is the era that, as floyd appears to be your favorite, fights in..or fought in...as he is already retired....
Bert Sugar ranks him top 50, but I have Pac higher than that
Mayweather is maybe close to top 20, or just in the top 20..... not exactly sure, can't be bothered doing the necessary research.....
I am certainly not as clever as you " top 5, easy " morons..... who can apparently whip those stats out of your ass at will..... and I certainly did not catapult Manny over some absolute fkn legends for beating No-Time Thurman LMAO
Pac is probably top 25-30'ish... again, can't be bothered checking
who did he beat, with consideration given to when/how
with some (not as much, but some) consideration given to losses
Mayweather.....
* tamed Pacquiao at 38yo
* schooled Canelo at 36yo
* schooled Marquez at 32yo (Pac nearly died trying this one)
* beat a lot more credible world champions than Pac did
* NO losses
that is why Mayweather ranks higher than Pacquiao
pac-tards go mental before/after every pac fight, been that way for years
I will replace everything that is irrelevant to greatness with the word rubbish.....
your list now reads
rubbish CHAMPION
rubbish CHAMPION
FIGHTER OF THE rubbish
3X rubbish OF THE YEAR
OLDEST rubbish CHAMPION
it's not that great bro
any one of the following wins is greater than your rubbish
* taming Pacquiao at 38yo
* schooling Canelo at 36yo
* schooling Marquez at 32yo
Mayweather is literally 3x greater than the rubbish you mentioned
Nah floyd is not on pac level.
5 division champion
3 division lineal champion
2x fighter of the year
naah. not even close
try again my friend. u can look from the past or whatever era and find me someone who can came close to pac achievements.
Pac is already the GOAT. Name any boxer from the past to present who came close to achieved all of these below:
8 DIVISION CHAMPION
5 DIVISION LINEAL CHAMPION
FIGHTER OF THE DECADE
3X FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
OLDEST WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION
If there is atleast one boxer that came to achieved all of these i will concede that pac achievements are overrated.
I will replace everything that is irrelevant to greatness with the word rubbish.....
your list now reads
rubbish CHAMPION
rubbish CHAMPION
FIGHTER OF THE rubbish
3X rubbish OF THE YEAR
OLDEST rubbish CHAMPION
it's not that great bro
any one of the following wins is greater than your rubbish
* taming Pacquiao at 38yo
* schooling Canelo at 36yo
* schooling Marquez at 32yo
Mayweather is literally 3x greater than the rubbish you mentioned
let me see...pac vs cotto is one....
however, the real objective of me asking you to name names is not to dwell on who is better...pac or may or canelo or lauchengco?
the objective is to show that there are very good fighters in today's modern era at the lower weight classes of boxing....that you consider rubbish
FACT: Mayweather beat a BETTER version of Cotto
FACT: Cotto career had never been at a lower point than it was immediately prior to the Pacquiao fight, so Pac beating that version of Cotto..... is not better than Mayweather beating Cotto..... let alone better than Pacquiao, Canelo, or Marquez
NOT..... EVEN..... CLOSE !!
now there are 4 Mayweather wins that are better than anyone on Pacquiao's record..... not 3 like earlier
name 1 win better than Pac, Canelo, JMM..... go !!
Stop throwing down challenges Mr insecure.
Pac s whole resume is stronger in depth.
prove it !!
give me 1 name on Pac's resume who is better than.....
defusing Pacquiao, at 38yo
schooling Canelo, at 36yo
schooling Marquez, at 32yo
go..... !!
just one name.....
FACT: if Mayweather repeatedly climbed a higher mountain than Pacquiao..... then he will obviously be remembered as a greater fighter than Pacquiao
that is how it works Hugh
Pac is already the GOAT. Name any boxer from the past to present who came close to achieved all of these below:
8 DIVISION CHAMPION
5 DIVISION LINEAL CHAMPION
FIGHTER OF THE DECADE
3X FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
OLDEST WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION
If there is atleast one boxer that came to achieved all of these i will concede that pac achievements are overrated.
tangalog, there is a reason why you just asked for names.....
because, names are the only things that matter... right ?
so, give me 3 names on Pac's resume who are better than.....
defusing Pacquiao, at 38yo
schooling Canelo, at 36yo
schooling Marquez, at 32yo
go..... !!
tell you what, I will give you a chance..... just give me 1 win on Pac's resume that is better than any 1 of those wins on Mayweathers resume..... just one name.....
you are on the ropes now
let me see...pac vs cotto is one....
however, the real objective of me asking you to name names is not to dwell on who is better...pac or may or canelo or lauchengco?
the objective is to show that there are very good fighters in today's modern era at the lower weight classes of boxing....that you consider rubbish
tangalog, there is a reason why you just asked for names.....
because, names are the only things that matter... right ?
so, give me 3 names on Pac's resume who are better than.....
defusing Pacquiao, at 38yo
schooling Canelo, at 36yo
schooling Marquez, at 32yo
go..... !!
tell you what, I will give you a chance..... just give me 1 win on Pac's resume that is better than any 1 of those wins on Mayweathers resume..... just one name.....
you are on the ropes now
Stop throwing down challenges Mr insecure.
Pac s whole resume is stronger in depth. Floyd s known as Mr cautious, he's famous around the world for it.
What on goshs earth do you think Floyd could have did with to earn a reputation like that that's worth mentioning without embelishing?
ali robinson armstrong leonard duran greb tunney moore etc etc
just to name a few... and, there are many others in that conversation
oh, nearly forgot..... mayweather
:lol1::lol1:
thanks for putting ali first on the list....
now you see srl and duran i consider on the lower weight classes not on the hw levels...and fought in today's modern era....and floyd is fine too.....so this is not rubbish!? Agreed....
Name names, please.....who are the other "excellent p4p fighters"
tangalog, there is a reason why you just asked for names.....
because, names are the only things that matter... right ?
so, give me 3 names on Pac's resume who are better than.....
defusing Pacquiao, at 38yo
schooling Canelo, at 36yo
schooling Marquez, at 32yo
go..... !!
tell you what, I will give you a chance..... just give me 1 win on Pac's resume that is better than any 1 of those wins on Mayweathers resume..... just one name.....
you are on the ropes now
Name names, please.....who are the other "excellent p4p fighters"
ali robinson armstrong leonard duran greb tunney moore etc etc
just to name a few... and, there are many others in that conversation
oh, nearly forgot..... mayweather
:lol1::lol1: