Should we expect anything else from someone whose nick is "AliShuffle". How could someone with the nick "AliShuffle" actually UNDERSTAND that the 70ies were mainly hype?
What you call "meaningless numbers" are Ali's FACTUAL ACHIEVEMENTs in the ring. Without the hype.
Again, a non-heavyweight example. Exactly how I mentioned above.
Skill is more important than size. But you have to twice as skilled as your opponent if you are smaller. Size+Weight gives you already a 3:1 advantage. Thus Tyson fared well against smaller (6'3'' and smaller) or bummy opponents, but failed against taller non-bums.
Already prepare yourself that the opinion which I present in my posts (= record-based facts) will be the dominant opinion in a few years. You cannot really argue against facts. So far Ali-fans get owned nearly every time when I catch them spinning, lying and fabulating.
And I further note that you, too, did not post anything that could be considered a counter fact. Instead you resort to personal attacks.
However, you (if it's you) look nice in your avatar. I also liked the funny undertone in your post.
You're right, bigger heavyweights beat smaller heavyweights. I was just thinking about it, and i am roughly 200lbs, and my English Mastiff is roughly 230lbs. Neither of us has had a professional fight, which gives us equal experience, so without actually boxing, using your equations I know that I have no chance of beating my dog in a boxing match? :bsflag:
Well hell, I know a 6' 300 lb girls, so with your math, if they fought Tyson, they would they would already have a 3:1 advantage?
And why should this only matter to heavyweights? Once you hit 200+ pounds your skill diminishes to the point that fights come down to size and weight? That doesn't make sense.
And for the record, Liston is recorded as having an 84" reach and we know from your stats that he was an actual heavyweight (=200+ lbs), Valuev is listed with an 85" reach.
Liston also had a great jab, which is really all Valuev could hope to possess, although it isn't much. Liston also had a hard right which Valuev doesn't. Liston also had great movement and way more ring intelligence. Any pro 7' tall fighter should have no problem keeping a 6'3" 46 year old fighter away with his jab and score an easy KO. Which he couldn't.
And Ali had no problem getting to Liston. And don't say that Liston was past his prime, according to you, a fighter cannot be past his prime that's just an excuse. Ali was not only able to beat a fully capable Liston, but was able to embarrass him. Even when Ali was blind, Liston couldn't get to him. How the hell would Valuev be able to do it? I don't think that 1 extra inch of reach would make much of a difference in the fight.
Also, you forget to realize that size is also a hiderance. Being bigger is not always better. Just look at the military. They are looking for lean, mean, fighting machines, and these are the guys fighting for their lives and country. If being bigger was better, then they would be looking for basketball players and football players. But I digress, the reason they want lean mean fighting machines is that all the extra weight, and size slows them down, wears them out quicker, and becomes a handicap.