the average as.shole (most of you) is what I like to call a MEDIA PUPPET. Meaning you follow what ever is 'popular' everybody says Muhhammad Ali is the greatest so we'll say it. Marciano was popular he so he's a great, Louis, Dempsey yada yada yah.
The truth of the matter is, for those FEW of us who aren't media puppets LEWIS and the KLITCHKOS beat any heavyweight who's ever fought more times then not. People like Mike Tyson because of his CHARACTER, yea he was good in his prime, but prime lennox always beats tyson, tyson could never get past the jab. Tyson has always had shit stamnia and always got discouraged when he couldn't knock a guy out within 3-4 rounds.
Ali had no power and wouldnt be knocked out by all 3, he's not decisioning a modern day 6'7 240 pound heavyweight, hell he got 2 gift decisions vs Norton. Marciano, Dempsey, Louis are too small and would be destroyed rather quickly, those 3 wouldn't even beat an average fighter like David Tua or Razor Ruddock.
As I said in years past, if their was magically a heavyweight boxing tournament of the top most known 64 heavyweights all time, college basketball tourney style, Marciao dempsey ali louis wouldn't be the final 4, they might not even get out of the 1st round. Imagine these 1st round match ups.
Ibeuchi vs Dempsey, Marciano vs V.Klitchko, Feather Fisted ALI vs Valuev Louis vs Holyfield :nonono:.
If you had to bet your house on it that rocky marciano could beat lennox lewis or muhhammad ali could be wlad klitchko then your as stupid as you look!
I thought this was for boxing fans. I have heard a lot of things like Margarito is the GOAT and now this... what's next?
thread starter is probably an ALT. don't worry
Phew, I am relieved.
How could I not see that YOUR AVATAR features the proof that makes any speculation unnecessary about Foreman's mysterious gassing...
It's a snapshot from 1974 showing how you analyze Foreman's urine under that white CSI suit with your bionic butt.
Do you have some sort of obsession with my avatar? You keep on mentioning it in every other post.
When I was young and first getting in to boxing, I thought the current champions were the best ever. Then the championships changed hands a few times and I dug in to the history of the sport. Now I realize how silly I sounded when I was younger.
when you were young lol
When I was young and first getting in to boxing, I thought the current champions were the best ever. Then the championships changed hands a few times and I dug in to the history of the sport. Now I realize how silly I sounded when I was younger.
Vitali beat the guys that beat Wladimir
A 38 year old Lewis beat Vitali
A 43 year old Holmes beat Mercer more convincingly than prime Lewis.
A near prime Holmes struggled with Ken Norton.
and Ken Norton was a part of that 'golden age' of Heavyweights in the 70s.
what was my point from all that? To show one semi-logical reason that the heavyweights of the 70s are at LEAST on par with the heavyweights today.
I mean, if old man versions of the last generation can rival the next generation, that last generation must have been pretty good, right?
:thumbsdow haha
Yes, that is true.
The problem is that Ali's co-trainer spread the rumor about the drugs and Foreman. If Klitschko's team would spread such rumors about Chris Byrd's loss then maybe one should think about erasing that win off Klitschko's record.
Foreman was not drugged in the fight. You are going against all the facts here.
Vitali beat the guys that beat Wladimir
A 38 year old Lewis beat Vitali
A 43 year old Holmes beat Mercer more convincingly than prime Lewis.
A near prime Holmes struggled with Ken Norton.
and Ken Norton was a part of that 'golden age' of Heavyweights in the 70s.
what was my point from all that? To show one semi-logical reason that the heavyweights of the 70s are at LEAST on par with the heavyweights today.
I mean, if old man versions of the last generation can rival the next generation, that last generation must have been pretty good, right?
Wow, what a brilliant reply.
KNN: "Your avatar sucks."
MmuhammadM: "No, your avatar sucks."
I didn't know that children are allowed to join this forum.
I never said your avatar sucks. You clearly fail at a basic skill of correctly quoting.
"I didn't know that children are allowed to join this forum" - :lol1::lol1: you cannot be serious.
kilitcho's have decent resume's with good wins, however theirs are not even remotely close to the calibre of Ali's resume.
Not half as retarded as your avatar.
I didn't know that they sell now punchbags with faces.
:rofl:
If you think my avatar is retarded, take a look at yours.
If Foreman was poisoned then it's not a huge stretch to believe all of Ali's opponents were drugged. Nonsense.
But you have offered zero proof that Foreman was drugged it is a fact that Vitali tested positive
Not quite. Read the quote from his biography. Vitali didn't admit to have taken steroids to enhance his performance.
Very few steroid cheats admit to it. I believe Ben Johnson's 1st defense was injury too.
So far you just posted speculations. It's as if I would base my record analysis of Ali's opponents purely on the Foreman-was-drugged theory.
No Vitali testing positive is fact if it was speculation you would deny it, as it is fact you have to admit it and qualify it.
Speculation is Foreman being drugged and Holyfield and Tyson being on steroids as there is no physical proof. Fact is something that is backed by uncontestable proof speculation is something that is back by opinion and zero proof.
Very simple concept, no?