every boxer makes the mistake of under estimating floyd's power, he may not have one punch ko power anymore as he moved up but he enuf power go gain anyone's respect,enough to put mosely on edge and any other welterweight....
manny will give floyd alot of problems no doubt and is capable of beating floyd but I genuinely tink floyd beats manny,he'll have a few speed bumps along the way but will win in the end.
no ceilings once again u amaze me with your ignorance,u just agreed with a post about the random testing does'nt matter if its 14 dyas,24,30 or wotever well if u agree with this as you have just said u did then y bother asking for the 14 days and just accept 24 the day window????
I agree with the poster it shud be random if at all and this window of a set time makes no difference but use ur head and stop posted such biased sh*t,u really are incredible the sh*t u go on about,i dont normally post but been reading ur condecending posts for too long.....
This window thing is pointless if they want to detect ped's BUT random urine tests right up to fight is more than sufficient to detect ped's,
cmon no ceilings im waiting for the most biased response,know wot the funny thing is im a big floyd fan but u really annoy me with the garbage un post.....I can at least admit floyd and pac ruined this fight, and it will proberly never happen now bcoz may v mosely is gona crush pac's ppv's and mayweather will not accept 50/50 then as he shud'nt and fights never gona happen and that pisses me off...all of pacs opponents have been tailored made for him and if ne meets floyd hes gona be in a world of trouble and i really wana see how floyd neutralizes pac's offense,surely u want to see this too no ceilings?
are you capable of having a discussion reread your posts you sound pathetic little spoilt rich kid....
why can't you use logic and reason and stop with your constant tirade's of abuse...I can't possibly discuss anything remotely logical or adult with you......
reloaded are you a child? what age are you?
Are you capable of having an adult discussion dont even know why im posting this but look im a floyd fan its plain and simple obvious floyd did not want the fight this time,pac ****ed it up the first time but floyd DID NOT want it this time,I tink he will fight pac but not this year floyd only fights once a year and will fight pac next year i hope..please stop posting reloaded you make all floyd fans look bad with your childish antic's,,,,,
You only have to use your head and a bit of common sense to see floyd stopped the fight happening the 2nd time if floyd wanted it he would have got it,contrary to what pac fans believe floyd is the main man in boxing bar NONE.i can't even read some of your posts you sound like a stuck up spolit child...
to answer your question i dont know why manny lied or why mayweather lied,as far as im concerned USING common sense and logic floyd did not want this fight at this particular time,I do not believe he's afraid of manny and I cant wait till he fights him and schools him but for wotever reason he di not want it with,prehaps it was too and soon and he wants a break as hes stated.....
no ceilings how do you think floyd will win, I have always thought that floyd would beat pac if they meet but I was having this discussion the other night and a few interesting points were brought up..
floyd will have to completely change his style to fight pac,pac throws alot of punches and goes the full 12 rounds and yes he does get hit but he seems to be walking tru punches at the moment..what way you tink floyd will fight and do you agree/disagree with this assumption?
Will this leave gaps in floyd's defence?
Also pac is going to get hit very cleanly alot in this fight BUT mayweather does not throw enough punches in his combo's to completely stop pac,I think these are the things which makes this fight so intriuging,how they adapt to eachother....
do you think floyd can win this fight potshotting???
I thought he would but im beginning to have doubt's,even if floyd lands the cleaner punches that pac could be given a few rounds on workrate alone.......
anyway just interested in your opinions on this...
MIC my god your full of sh*t,its people like you that are ruining this fight,do you know anything about the human body and ped usuage???
im sick of reading these threads....
BOTH CAMPS are to blame for this fight not happening,yes MIC I said both,take a minute till u grasp that......
Right MIC since you seem to think you know so much answer the following questions with your limited knowledge...
Go ahead and google the answer's coz you certainly dont have the experience or knowledge of any of the above.....
1/ Which is more effective at detecting ped's urine or blood test's?(go on say it but blood test's detect HGH,o.k very good MIC so what benifits does HGH have to a boxer????
2/ Why is a 14 day window more effective than a 24 day one??
3/Why had floyd come up with this now after 40 fights,he was happy with the nevada commison up until now but why the change of heart???
Let me guess bcoz his fu*king of a daddy who's fighter got embarrassed by pac 'said so'.
The reason for his fight not happening is roach,arum,floyd Sr and richard schaffer they all done a great job of fu8King it up.....
Im actually a floyd fan believe it or not but im finding myself defending pac more and more lately bcoz of people like you......
I think pac should have accepted the 14 day window BUT I also tink 24 days and 14 days makes no difference with ped's,you can finish ur cycle between both time frames...random urine samples is more than sufficient throughout training...
The man was something special to watch at that weight alright,I like how he has adapted at the higher weight's tho there simply just isn't anyone presently out there who could test him to the highest....that includes pacqauio I tink floyd will embarass pac pretty badly.
I dont agree with the catchweights for titles but im not against them for the safety of the fighters but no titles on the line...pbtfx or wotever ur name is you must lead a pretty sad existance wen all you love for is to slander manny and praise floyd,I constantly read posts by you and that other muppet yesir the most biased posters on this site...yis go on about the manny fans but you's are worse by far....
for the person who said the weight with cotto didnt matter thats BS if it didnt matter they they woudln't have asked for it but for pbtfx please enlighten me how manny catchweights has manny fought at???
i must be confused bcoz i only remember 1 and dont start saying del la hoya and thats just clutching at straws you make all floyd fans look bad wit ur constant BS.
Fu*k off roach margarito does not deserve this fight,its a joke fight and i for one certainly wont be buying it....arum is a low life setting this fight up leave margarito out he does not deserve sh*t.
guys why do yis always jump on any little ting to discredit manny u make all floyd fans look bad with the bullsh*t arguments,I expect it from manny fanatics but not you's and any Why didnt floyd just say this and why is he on vacation???
im a big floyd fan but am pissed off with how hes been treating us fans lately am I the only one???
Dont believe anything that comes from the manny or floyd camps there egotistial bunch of bull****ters the whole lot of them and yet all of you live and breath off their every word...pretty lame..
I actually thought us mayweather fans were logical thinking fans but recently yis are all showing this to be untrue. I am well pissed off at floyd, forget ppv numbers,splits,whos the bigger draw etc Floyd himself has said he is not interested in fighting pac now,wtf is so hard to get about that???
wtf does the rest matter the main man himself said please tell me how the rest of this matters?
am i the only floyd fan that will call a spade a spade?
if floyd wants time off with his family so be it i wud have rathered he nevfer came back then or at least said that the pac fight wasn't happening after the mosley fight instead of leaving his fans waiting...my fav boxer by far but pulling sh*t like this really pisses me off.,
no point talking to you you havn't got a clue what ur talking about....i give up man has never boxed,doesn.t know what having to make weight involves....good luck with the thread imdazed u keep insulting with ur clueless ass..
o.k imdazed and domincano since you tink know it all when he was starving himself and cutting weight what did he weigh before was he not cutting mass? its so obvious u;s 2 have never boxed a day in ur lives with the nonsense u write,so your telling me the water weight he rehydrates with is the same as natural body weight? ur saying its not i agree so wud he not be stronger with natural weight?
omfg u are unreal by starving himself he weakens his body and the weight he puts back on as u is water weight not true weight as u claim which is correct so if he didnt have to starve himself would he not be naturally stronger? lets start from the beginnign since its like talking to a child,honest m8 use ur head
iamdzed and check hook why did u not answer all my questions?
what has pacs fight night weight been in and around for a long time even at 130?
also obviously you both have never boxed,otherwise you wud have answered my question on have you ever had to make weight?
well i am, mayweather wins comfortably and i even tink he will ko pac,and on to ur other points which iamdazed wouls like me to comment hgh is not very benificial to a boxer its more for recovery and for season athlete's and well epo can be detected in urine and random urine throughout would prevent this useage....i just want this fight signed and all you are doing is giving the pacfan's excuses....if u go and look at the facts..not speculation i cant see much difference in pac,bar hatton he has not done anything spectacular,del la hoya was a shell of him former self,cotto wether people like to admit it or not the 2 pound weight affected him if it didnt why ask for it? and also pac was all wrong for cotto anyway and as for hatton lets be honest hatton was never that good another british prospect hyped up...
m8 there is a big difference between having to fast to make weight and making it comfortably,funny thing is im a mayweather fan but most floyd fans are becoming worse than pac fans with pure nonsense....by the way i worked in administration on a testing committee and unless things have changed in the last year the best detection for epo is urine tests,also can you answer how each of the metioned ped's benifit a boxer..??????
i do not tink pac is using one of the few floyd fans who doesnt i tink floyd will beat pac comfortably and all you people are doing is discredting his win before the fight even happens
are you taking the piss? u have obviouly never stepped in a ring or had to make weight?? do u know it weakens you? do you know the strain it causes on ur body?
my god its like to speaking to a child... answer yes or no have u ever had to make weight? that is all i ask you
check hook couple of questions:
what has manny pacquaio's weight been consistently the last few years?
have you ever boxed before?
how can HGH benifit a boxer?
which is more effiective detecting EPO urine or blood?
honest mk8 im a big floyd fan but its pathetic people like you which piss me off u choose to believe the garbage u write when by reading your post i doubt uve boxed a day in ur life or know anything about ped's and the human body.....please answer the above questions
u didnt answer have u ever had to make weight? do u know how weak it makes you,pac is at his full strenth lately where as he was'nt before...so by ur response ur answer to both questions is no i give up
I am one of the many that think pacman is vastly overrated by alot on this site,but i love wot he is doing for boxing at the moment..will people please do sum research b4 u post PACQUAIO had only gone for a catchweight ONCE and that is in his upcoming fight with miguel cotto...he is droppinh 2 pounds or matter of factly 1 pound,im getting sick of this sh*te on this site I nearly hope the fight is cancelled at this stage,ur saying if pacman wins it is because of the weight??? GTFO,just be f*cking happy the fight is even happening...sick of all the excuses...mayweathers a bitch,pacquaios a bitch blah blah blah...
As posted already Its been a whiles since cotto has been in with a smaller man,he seems to struggle most against bigger fighters as he cant impose his power/size as much this will not be a problem with pacquaio.
I would love to see pacman win as I would like to see him and mayweather,I tink cotto has lost it a bit after the margarito loss and I tink floyd wud exploit that and therefor style wise manny's gives floyd a very tought fight.
But in honest opinion I tink the pacman gravy train ends the night he stepsin the ring with cotto,I assume manny's tactic's will be to hit and run,in and out throwing combinations but cotto is a very good pressure fighter and body punchers and will hunt manny form the first round.
I cant see manny knockig cotto out,although manny has one punch KO power,cottos chin is rock solid at 147(dont tink the 2 pounds will affect him at all,as on fight night we know hes coming in at 155-160),he has taken punches off come of the most powerfull in the WW devision and not seem fazed by it.my only concern bout cotto is I havent been too impressed since the margarito fight,ie jennings and clottey,the clottey one the cut was a big factor in the fight and he showed great heart I might add,just something seems missing form him(the margarito loss was devasting to him,shattering his confidence) and I tink it showed in his last 2 fights,now wether the clottey win has restored some of it we wont know till he fights manny but if it has I think manny is in real trouble. Im a fan of both fighters and am looking foward to the fight,just thought id give my opinion.
Barry seems to think that Lee will beat DeGale to a World title.
That's who I directed the comment to.
you do know darren sutherland beat your boy degale 4 of the five times they fought??? de gale won the only one in the olympic's,degeale is a fu*king bellend cant wait till he fight's sutherland and gets KTFO. learn your facts demise u muppet.typical brit.
Such hypocrytes the lot of yis, Mayweather always fighting small guys???
Its beyond a joke at this stage the length you go to discredit him,He fought hatton because it was a big money fight and with the undefeated tag one of the biggest we'll see for a long time.(inlcuding hattons mass following)..As for marquez im pretty sure this is to make a statement to pacquaio and to get the upperhand in the negoations.
...and before you say wot bout cotto,mosley,margarito,cotto and mosely wanted no part of floyd until it suited them,I believe he will fight mosley but as I tink someone already mentioned mosely isnt wot he used to be....if he had of fought him when mayweather wanted it would be a different story that mosely could have given mayweather serious trouble.....il give you margarito floyd should have fought him at the time......
to sycomantz and king flawless you's 2 are just as bad regarding pacquaio,he fights one fight at a catch weight or sorry shall I say he has one upcoming fight at a catchweight,the one with oscar was all oscar NOT pacquaio,it wasnt pac's fault a shell came into the ring.....you's give discredit pac so much and juust on the people who do the same to mayweather,if you ask me you are just as bad as eachother....and im sure im gona get slated for this but i dont care I love both fighters and dont need to discredit one to make one better they are both great....cant wait fot this fight tonight think its gona be a real good fight and im gona enjoy it...ok im ready for the backlash....