iF mAnnY GoEs fOr aNothEr TiTle At a AnoThEr CatChweIghT, HiS LEgacY is TARnishEd...

for the duck ass bitch who put a % in his post to prove a point, shame on you-----floyd didn't make jmm move up like manny made cotto and de la hoya move down----and it wasn't for a title----like cotto and margarito---and if it's a paper championship, fine, coz it's a vacated title, but they will use manny winning it as the greatest thing in the world, like they did with the cotto win----and it's not right----floyd didn't put in a weight penalty like manny did---he didn't force jmm to weigh in at 144----should he have? coz the smaller fighter is the faster fighter with less weight usually----roy jones vs ruiz----floyd mayweather jr. vs oscar de la hoya----just as much as the bigger fighter is the stonger fighter----but floyd didn't use his size against jmm did he? that fight was about timing, more than speed and power like many of you think----- that being jmm vs pbf----- let me be clear here folks, i don't mind catchweight fights, just not for titles, paper, lineal, or undisputed-----vacated or not---it doesn't matter---fight at that weight---weight does mean a lot when it comes to boxing----it just does---it's not your usual weight gain or lost---it's water weight, muscle weight mainly----it's hard to fight effectively drained----

please post the numbers and fights They have fought 1 fight each at a catchweight, right!? Cotto and Marquez. 1/56 fights for Manny is 1.8% 1/41 for Floyd is 2.4% That's 33,3% more for Floyd! And like I said, he didn't even make the weight. No doubt who the real Catchweight King is, right!?

It's a paper title anyway.

The flomos are jealous and butthurt again. For me if Pac wants to fight for his 8th title then he should fight it at 154. Anyway, catchweight is also fine with me just to see the flomos increase their blood pressure up to 200/150 would be hilarious.:D Seriously, Pac from flyweight up to featherweight already considered HOF by many. From featherweight up to welterweight that made him atg. He can retire now and still greater than Floyd many miles. If he wants to put some icing on his awesome career before he retire. I'm sure most people will forgive him if he fights another catchweight considering he was a flyweight champ before all the way where he is now. Actually, he is not belong to this weight classes in the first place considering how small he is compare to all of them. Let us say he do another catchweight then he should retire after that win or lose and let the history decide about this little man.:boxing: yeahh, we are jealous of pacquiao's two knock out defeats :D

When a boxers career is done, they look back at what his accomplishments were and who he beat. The fact that he fought at catchweights wont be remembered in 10 years.

would floyd's career be tarnished for fighting martinez at a catchweight for his middleweight championship? Yes sir, catchweights shouldn't be allowed in title fights. A non-title fight is cool but you start bending the rules like that then you really can't say a fighter is as great as Henry Armstrong b/c Armstrong didn't know what the hell a catchweight was. If Mayweather wants the middleweight crown he should go threw hell 2 get it, Martinez was 167 and Pavlik was damn near 180 pounds on fight night.

To me, it doesn't really matter. I just think it's unnecessary, Manny beats both Cotto and Margacheato no matter how heavy they are, let them weigh in at 160 if they want to.

The flomos are jealous and butthurt again. For me if Pac wants to fight for his 8th title then he should fight it at 154. Anyway, catchweight is also fine with me just to see the flomos increase their blood pressure up to 200/150 would be hilarious.:D Seriously, Pac from flyweight up to featherweight already considered HOF by many. From featherweight up to welterweight that made him atg. He can retire now and still greater than Floyd many miles. If he wants to put some icing on his awesome career before he retire. I'm sure most people will forgive him if he fights another catchweight considering he was a flyweight champ before all the way where he is now. Actually, he is not belong to this weight classes in the first place considering how small he is compare to all of them. Let us say he do another catchweight then he should retire after that win or lose and let the history decide about this little man.:boxing:

Fixed. Manny "The Catchweight King" Pacquiao. As of now, Floyd has fought a higher percentage of his fights at a catchweight. I guess that would make him Floyd "The Ultimate Catchweight King" Mayweather. Oh, btw, he didn't even make the weight.

I dont agree with the catchweights for titles but im not against them for the safety of the fighters but no titles on the line...pbtfx or wotever ur name is you must lead a pretty sad existance wen all you love for is to slander manny and praise floyd,I constantly read posts by you and that other muppet yesir the most biased posters on this site...yis go on about the manny fans but you's are worse by far.... for the person who said the weight with cotto didnt matter thats BS if it didnt matter they they woudln't have asked for it but for pbtfx please enlighten me how manny catchweights has manny fought at??? i must be confused bcoz i only remember 1 and dont start saying del la hoya and thats just clutching at straws you make all floyd fans look bad wit ur constant BS.

By flomos? Yes. By NORMAL people? No. it doesnt matter who you are a fan of thats not right to be able to call yourself a division champion if you cant win the belt at the division limit. if pacquiao wins a belt at 154 and margarito or cotto have to come down to 150 lbs. its bullshit. its clearly handicapping and weakening the opponent intentionally and if pacquiao wins the belt at the catch weight and then comes time to defend it and its another catch weight or he cherrypicks an opponent because he claims hes too small to fight certain people in the division how the hell could you consider him to be the champion? he is not a real welterweight champion and he wont be a real 154lb champ either if he fights for it at a catch weight.

i didnt. link pls? as of right now manny only has one fight. i think you are just too eager to discredit. like i mentioned before, other fighters have more catchweight fights than manny.if manny uses another catchweight, i will not cosign it. he should be justifiably criticized. even though im against catchweights, we should at least wait until its official.okay, fair enough, but i'm not talking about other fighters right now, i'm talking about manny----did hopkins win a title from pavlik at 170? no-----he didn't make pav defend his middleweight title----- i'm not trying to discredit manny---he's doing it himself along with arum and roach-----link? just type it in google, yahoo, **********.com, or the main page here, saying manny's opponent could be as early as monday---arum makes a comment on it----it has been linked before also-----

winning a vacant belt at a catchweight is the lowest of low shouldn't be even allowed to be called a champ IMO I think Manny has more pride then that

a lot of exaggeration in this thread. pacman has had only one catchweight fight. its quite an achievement that he's even fighting at welterweight. the real catch weight king would have to be bernard hopkins who has had at least 3 catchweight fights. even somebody like ray leonard could claim that title. he fought in more catchweight fights than manny.didn't you read what arum said----"of course the fight would take place at 150 or 151 pounds"----there's no exaggeration here----hell, there's none needed--lol----i stated facts----it's as simple as that----it's always a double standard with manny on anything-----he has a lot of fishy shit going on that needs to be exposed-------

This is a weak thread. Making up this kind stuff just because Mayweather is running from Pacquiao! Why not make simular threads about all the other fighters Mayweather avoided too?a weak thread that you so decided to post in----thank you for the support---mayweather running from pacquiao is not fact, it's gossip from manny fans-----the only thing you have to worry about is manny running into another losing effort when he fights floyd----that's fact, not speculation----

Its already tarnished. Nobody who knows history creams over it like the new fans do. People forget about the lack of weight classes back in the day for one thing, and giving Pac a ****ing "Diamond Belt" just to force history is comical. He is great based on his wins, not the number of bullshit catchweight belts he gets handed from Arum.i agree---we have to understand that the reason he's so great to these people on here is because of the number of weight divisions he's captured titles at-----and it's not 7------no matter what they think----

Pac isn't scared to fight at 147 or 154, it's just Roach being cautious as he steps up. And no, it won't affect his legacy because he's shown he can fight at those weights (well 147 anyway, although I'm sure he'll hack it at 154) with equal success.okay, so what's the problem with him fighting for titles at those weights---it does tarnish his legacy as far as winning titles-----it looks like skam to me----he'll fight at the regular weights above 140 for no titles, but when it comes to titles, catchweights, here i come, says manny poochieow-----it doesn't matter that he's proven he can fight at those weights when he doesn't yet wins a title at the weight as if he did fight there----that's nonsense----

Its already tarnished. Nobody who knows history creams over it like the new fans do. People forget about the lack of weight classes back in the day for one thing, and giving Pac a ****ing "Diamond Belt" just to force history is comical. He is great based on his wins, not the number of bullshit catchweight belts he gets handed from Arum.

This is indisputable fact, truth and nothing but the truth...:lol1:you damn skippy---thanks for noticing----

Pac isn't scared to fight at 147 or 154, it's just Roach being cautious as he steps up. And no, it won't affect his legacy because he's shown he can fight at those weights (well 147 anyway, although I'm sure he'll hack it at 154) with equal success.