On July 17, 2010 The boxing world finally came to the realization that old wounds are very slow to heal, and to always follow the money.
I have been told by more than 2 sources that I have recently befriended last year in the boxing community that the Money split was the main of the reason this fight didn’t happen.
Before I go into this thread I would like to point out that Boxingscene is truly the Mecca of where a lot of boxing insiders come and bring their arguments for their fighters, and themselves. I know for a FACT, a FACT that both members and associates of Team Mayweather and Team Pacquiao not only read these but post on these forums and a lot of other fighters and their teams do as well.
I will not out nobody screen names in this thread, however if you are reading this thread and do not believe what I am telling you, ask yourself, Why wouldn’t they check out boxing forums to check out public opinion, and if you believe they check out these forums, why wouldnt they want to tell their side of the story, or put out information to sway public opinion.
The blogosphere does not only affect politics it also affects sports.
Why else do you think Pacquiao suddenly budged on drug testing? But not the Money!!
Why else did Amir Khan start calling Bradley now instead of the marquez-diaz winner??
Why does some threads get deleted with factual information that is damning to some fighters but not others?
But that is for another thread.
Horus Presents: PACQUIAO conceded on BLOOD, wants MAYWEATHER to concede on Money$$!!
Now on July 9th,2010
I wrote a thread entitled,
WHY is Team Pacquiao making getting 50% a STICKING POINT!!!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404501&highlight=biggest+payday
In that thread, I essentially laid out the argument that Team Pacquiao no doubtably heard from Team Mayweather
Which was why are they Making 50% a sticking point. when 40%,45%,47% would still get them their biggest payday ever???? There is no statistical measure that Team Pacquiao can present that can show how they deserve and earned the right to %50 percent of all the revenue against Floyd Mayweather.
Part of the reason I made that thread was because I was hearing that this was the main issue in which Team Pacquiao would not budge with Team Mayweather on. In short their argument was, that the numbers in favor of Mayweather was not a big of a margin to jusifty him getting a bigger split and that this was going to be the biggest fight in boxing and both fighters are simliar in terms of drawing power so it should be 50-50. Which obviously did not sit well with Team Mayweather who obviously felt differently.
In short what Team Pacquiao did was agree to the old terms from last December, that they turned down.
and from the Mayweather side, I heard Mayweather was willing to let their be a cut off date on the drug issue, but not the money.
So the talks stop there. They never even negotiated.
Both sides drew a line in the sand and waited for the other side to flinch.
Thats why Top Rank did the "deadline" to see if that would make Team Mayweather flinch off their demands and concede alittle bit, and by cocede I mean concede on the money, which I am told Mayweather will not do.
So now Top Rank is in the media again trying to sway public opinion to get Mayweather to move alittle on his stances. They figured sense they budge on the drug testing Mayweather should budge on the money.
So basically Team Pacquiao is telling Team Mayweather we will do the drug test up to 14 days for a 50/50 Split.
REAL TALK.
Floyd said himself, he is not interested in the fight.
he didn't say manny's camp is asking more of the split, or the drug test was still an issue.
the ts is making an assumption that the split is the issue, which is possible.
but based on actual reports, floyd's lack of interest in the fight is the roadblock of this fight
this shit is like politics now people spinning the news or just lie
damn shame
Floyd said himself, he is not interested in the fight.
he didn't say manny's camp is asking more of the split, or the drug test was still an issue.
the ts is making an assumption that the split is the issue, which is possible.
but based on actual reports, floyd's lack of interest in the fight is the roadblock of this fight
i agree. if there was a problem with arum's proposal, floyd should've acknowledged that. if floyd really wasn't interested in fighting for the rest of the year, he should've stated that after the mosley fight.
the problem is, its incredibly ridiculous for ellerbe to assert NO negotiations at all, had taken place, when TM remained quiet throughout the "negotiation" process, only to surface once arum's deadline had expired.
to me, it just seems as if there really were no negotiations going on, and floyd wasn't interested in fighting, someone would've come out weeks ago, when reports of a deal "being close," were released.
The TS isn't lying. Well, it seems the money is only one of the reasons the fight wasn't made.
I just made a thread pertaining to this subject. - http://www.floydmayweather.com/2010/07/the-way-it-went/
Floyd said himself, he is not interested in the fight.
he didn't say manny's camp is asking more of the split, or the drug test was still an issue.
the ts is making an assumption that the split is the issue, which is possible.
but based on actual reports, floyd's lack of interest in the fight is the roadblock of this fight
Well Horus needs to contact ESPN with this groundbreaking news and then yahoo sports needs to give him his own column instead of Kevin Iole.
That is what I am saying, should be getting paid with all the inside info's he gets... Dude is slacking.
Horus threads are silly from the get go.. his ego is so big that he has to post his own name in the title just to get off on himself.
"Horus presents:"
posting a thread isn't an achievement you should gull about and be proud of :lol1:
That is because, Horus really thinks he is famous, he really think he is famous from posting on a boxing website :lol1:
Horus threads are silly from the get go.. his ego is so big that he has to post his own name in the title just to get off on himself.
"Horus presents:"
posting a thread isn't an achievement you should gull about and be proud of :lol1:
Whats the point of this thread
That Horus has sources? He became big time form boxingscene and his podcast show. Now he has connections. That is pretty much the point him bragging.
Incredible.
He must be on Mayweather's payroll the way he posts.
Naw, he is not on Mayweather payroll. But, he is on something that Mayweather has. If you know what I mean :D.
I am OK with people having a problem with the cutoff date. The fight not taking place cuz they didn't agree and you want to blame somebody. OK fine I get that point. I honestly understand.
But, if you're trying to justify a fight not taking a place cuz of a purse split(That is really not as unfair as the fan boy TS trying to make it out to be) then you not really a boxing fan.
You're a fan of a particular fighter more than the sport. I already knew this about Horus but this just confirms it.
Incredible.
He must be on Mayweather's payroll the way he posts.
just a question.
whats the ballpark figure if floyd fight pac on a 50/50 deal?
whats the ballpark figure if floyd fight someone not named pac on whatever split deal?
Hell 40 million guaranteed for a pac fight, and only 12-15 guaranteed for anybody else. At the same time Pac makes less than that per fight. Both these guys need to make this fight happen at the end of the day they are both 30 yr old fighters. They better make some sort of deal while they can. I'd join together with the worst pactard in calling for this fight to happen if it would make a difference.
He's blaming Manny Pacquiao for demanding a 50/50 split :nonono:
I am OK with people having a problem with the cutoff date. The fight not taking place cuz they didn't agree and you want to blame somebody. OK fine I get that point. I honestly understand.
But, if you're trying to justify a fight not taking a place cuz of a purse split(That is really not as unfair as the fan boy TS trying to make it out to be) then you not really a boxing fan.
You're a fan of a particular fighter more than the sport. I already knew this about Horus but this just confirms it.
On July 17, 2010 The boxing world finally came to the realization that old wounds are very slow to heal, and to always follow the money.
I have been told by more than 2 sources that I have recently befriended last year in the boxing community that the Money split was the main of the reason this fight didn’t happen.
Before I go into this thread I would like to point out that Boxingscene is truly the Mecca of where a lot of boxing insiders come and bring their arguments for their fighters, and themselves. I know for a FACT, a FACT that both members and associates of Team Mayweather and Team Pacquiao not only read these but post on these forums and a lot of other fighters and their teams do as well.
I will not out nobody screen names in this thread, however if you are reading this thread and do not believe what I am telling you, ask yourself, Why wouldn’t they check out boxing forums to check out public opinion, and if you believe they check out these forums, why wouldnt they want to tell their side of the story, or put out information to sway public opinion.
The blogosphere does not only affect politics it also affects sports.
Why else do you think Pacquiao suddenly budged on drug testing? But not the Money!!
Why else did Amir Khan start calling Bradley now instead of the marquez-diaz winner??
Why does some threads get deleted with factual information that is damning to some fighters but not others?
But that is for another thread.
Horus Presents: PACQUIAO conceded on BLOOD, wants MAYWEATHER to concede on Money$$!!
Now on July 9th,2010
I wrote a thread entitled,
WHY is Team Pacquiao making getting 50% a STICKING POINT!!!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404501&highlight=biggest+payday
In that thread, I essentially laid out the argument that Team Pacquiao no doubtably heard from Team Mayweather
Which was why are they Making 50% a sticking point. when 40%,45%,47% would still get them their biggest payday ever???? There is no statistical measure that Team Pacquiao can present that can show how they deserve and earned the right to %50 percent of all the revenue against Floyd Mayweather.
Part of the reason I made that thread was because I was hearing that this was the main issue in which Team Pacquiao would not budge with Team Mayweather on. In short their argument was, that the numbers in favor of Mayweather was not a big of a margin to jusifty him getting a bigger split and that this was going to be the biggest fight in boxing and both fighters are simliar in terms of drawing power so it should be 50-50. Which obviously did not sit well with Team Mayweather who obviously felt differently.
In short what Team Pacquiao did was agree to the old terms from last December, that they turned down.
and from the Mayweather side, I heard Mayweather was willing to let their be a cut off date on the drug issue, but not the money.
So the talks stop there. They never even negotiated.
Both sides drew a line in the sand and waited for the other side to flinch.
Thats why Top Rank did the "deadline" to see if that would make Team Mayweather flinch off their demands and concede alittle bit, and by cocede I mean concede on the money, which I am told Mayweather will not do.
So now Top Rank is in the media again trying to sway public opinion to get Mayweather to move alittle on his stances. They figured sense they budge on the drug testing Mayweather should budge on the money.
So basically Team Pacquiao is telling Team Mayweather we will do the drug test up to 14 days for a 50/50 Split.
REAL TALK.
Pacquiao did agreed to the testing and demands what the hell are you trying
to say??
Money may is not boxing today coz of family, vacation and relaxation
mayweather said that... Pacteam accepted it.. and it will be scheduled again
next year...
FLOMO like you si an azzhole making threads of excuses...
you quack alot..
just a question.
whats the ballpark figure if floyd fight pac on a 50/50 deal?
whats the ballpark figure if floyd fight someone not named pac on whatever split deal?
I kid you not, I am hearing Pacquiao is not moving from getting a 50/50 split.
Then the fight wont and shouldnt happen...After Floyd vs Marquez & Cotto vs Pac took Place. Both teams came together and came up witn50/50 and a 14 day cut off. Manny chose to fight clottey and Floyd fought Mosley.
Floyd beat the WW champ, did over 1.4 million buys damn doubling what Pac did. And floyd became P4p knocking manny down to number 2..how is it still 50/50?
I am not reading all of Horus bullshit. I just want to know who is Horus blaming?
If anybody can answer that I will appreciate it.
He's blaming Manny Pacquiao for demanding a 50/50 split :nonono:
you can start flaming with that scared shit all you want, but i am giving you the real. Pacquiao is not budging on getting 50% real talk.
thats whats holding this fight up.