There is some serious misunderstanding going on on this board. Floyd fans vs PacTards. I forget what Floyd fans are called so dont call me bias by use of the phrase Tards. I want to clear this up for all of you high school students and below, hopefully all the adult fans are mature enough to already understand this.
Floyd fans are hoping that Manny is clean. We want him to be clean just as much as his most loyal following. If he is clean, that means we get to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, This is what we want. As a Mayweather fan, I would love nothing more than to see these two fighters in the ring. Floyd himself would love nothing more than to see Pac Clean and in the ring. Want to know why, cause if not clean, there is no fight, no event, and whats even worse, as far as Floyd is concerned. NO MONEY, NO PAYDAY!!
So when we talk about Pac on PED's, Ariza's Milkshakes, Olympic testing, we are talking about Pac's unwillingness to take the test. That is what pisses us off, he is Unwilling To Take The Test.
That stuff about Filipino Pride, and Floyd can't dictate to Pac, thats all bologna!! Thats called excuses, and excuses are monuments of nothing that build bridges that lead to nowhere. So again, we are upset that Pac did not willingly submit to testing like Shane is doing, this is what I, personally expected to happen. Why? Cause Roach in past interviews stated we have no problem with drug testing we'll pass any test. So why you backing down now m-therf-kers!!!???? What you scared of? Needles???
So I'm going to stop writing cause I'm starting to get pissed again. And yes this is bringing it up all over again but just want u good people to know that Mayweather fans want Pac to test and we want him to be clean, and we want his ass in the ring vs the truth.
MIC my god your full of sh*t,its people like you that are ruining this fight,do you know anything about the human body and ped usuage???
im sick of reading these threads....
BOTH CAMPS are to blame for this fight not happening,yes MIC I said both,take a minute till u grasp that......
Right MIC since you seem to think you know so much answer the following questions with your limited knowledge...
Go ahead and google the answer's coz you certainly dont have the experience or knowledge of any of the above.....
1/ Which is more effective at detecting ped's urine or blood test's?(go on say it but blood test's detect HGH,o.k very good MIC so what benifits does HGH have to a boxer????
2/ Why is a 14 day window more effective than a 24 day one??
3/Why had floyd come up with this now after 40 fights,he was happy with the nevada commison up until now but why the change of heart???
Let me guess bcoz his fu*king of a daddy who's fighter got embarrassed by pac 'said so'.
The reason for his fight not happening is roach,arum,floyd Sr and richard schaffer they all done a great job of fu8King it up.....
Im actually a floyd fan believe it or not but im finding myself defending pac more and more lately bcoz of people like you......
I think pac should have accepted the 14 day window BUT I also tink 24 days and 14 days makes no difference with ped's,you can finish ur cycle between both time frames...random urine samples is more than sufficient throughout training...
I completely agree with the bold statement above
See, this is what blinded Flomos and Pactards doesn't seem to understand. They have no logic and common sense at all. Obviously the two fighters wanted to fight. IMO, both fighters doesn't really know all the full details behind each side's contract!
This is why Pac, Arum, and Roach are never in the same page. What about Mayweather's team? Well in the recent ESPN radio interview, if I remember correctly, Floyd was asked about the timeline difference for the proposed blood testing, FLOYD SAID THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DATES WERE! So this proves that both fighters don't know crap! But Pactards and Flomos seem to know more than the fighters themselves.
Look u cats throw disses and insults my way all u want, but a professional cant publicly evade a drug test and expect to not be criticized. Evading a drug test is much worse than the requesting one.
MIC my god your full of sh*t,its people like you that are ruining this fight,do you know anything about the human body and ped usuage???
im sick of reading these threads....
BOTH CAMPS are to blame for this fight not happening,yes MIC I said both,take a minute till u grasp that......
Right MIC since you seem to think you know so much answer the following questions with your limited knowledge...
Go ahead and google the answer's coz you certainly dont have the experience or knowledge of any of the above.....
1/ Which is more effective at detecting ped's urine or blood test's?(go on say it but blood test's detect HGH,o.k very good MIC so what benifits does HGH have to a boxer????
2/ Why is a 14 day window more effective than a 24 day one??
3/Why had floyd come up with this now after 40 fights,he was happy with the nevada commison up until now but why the change of heart???
Let me guess bcoz his fu*king of a daddy who's fighter got embarrassed by pac 'said so'.
The reason for his fight not happening is roach,arum,floyd Sr and richard schaffer they all done a great job of fu8King it up.....
Im actually a floyd fan believe it or not but im finding myself defending pac more and more lately bcoz of people like you......
I think pac should have accepted the 14 day window BUT I also tink 24 days and 14 days makes no difference with ped's,you can finish ur cycle between both time frames...random urine samples is more than sufficient throughout training...
TS is thinking the way Floyd and his minion is..
Is it possible flomos here in boxingscene are Floyd JR, Floyd SR, L. Ellerbe and Teddy Atlas themselves???
This speculation is exactly equivalent to: --- Floyd is a chicken and will continue to avoid Pacquiao at all costs. The only difference is some people speak the truth and the rest defend their idol as much as they can, even stooping so low as to agree totally with dickhead Floyd Sr.
So why did he ask for an unheard of test in boxing? Because this is the first time he is scared to death.
Speculation fair enough for you?
Exactly...he never asked for this in any of his fights. Only now when he was about to face PAC...I think he himself is asking how can a fighter do the things that PAC just did. He tries to rationalize that it must be PED's just like his genius father said.
Pacquiao is dirty and every single person here knows it. The only difference is some speak the truth and the rest lie to protect their idol.
This speculation is exactly equivalent to: --- Floyd is a chicken and will continue to avoid Pacquiao at all costs. The only difference is some people speak the truth and the rest defend their idol as much as they can, even stooping so low as to agree totally with dickhead Floyd Sr.
So why did he ask for an unheard of test in boxing? Because this is the first time he is scared to death.
Speculation fair enough for you?
I think this is all an ego/jealousy thing on Floyd. He already had 40 fights. He never asked this stipulation on any of his previous opponents. Why start now? Well, it accomplished a few things. One it tarnishes the accomplishments of PAC who undeniably surpassed him as boxing's flag bearer. PAC is p4p#1, 7 division champ and just recently was named Fighter of the Decade. PBF feels PAC is getting the kind of love he should have had for himself.
PBF fans ask why Manny just shouldn't take the tests? But in retrospect, why did Floyd make the accusation in the 1st place? There is no proof whatsoever that PAC was ever using drugs. PBF even ranted in live radio that Philippines makes the best PEDs. That's funny, considering Philippines doesn't even have one single Olympic Gold medal. If these PED's are so effective, heck his brother Bobby PAC should have been a champ too!
I really find it funny that a boxer whose father was a convicted drug dealer, whose uncle is a woman beater, and he himself a user of a drug banned in 49 other states, is accusing another person of a serious charge of being a juicer.
Yeah ok. So let me ask it again then. Did you or did you not write that comment in my sig. If you didn't, I'll take it off right now.
i already welcome u to my fanbase by saying thanks for having a quote of me in your sig.
since your lover left you for this guy here
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/gay-pride-parade-fairy.jpg
i could really understand if u need someone to talk too, and thats why u asking me dumb questions over&over?
Pac should forget about floyd. Ignore all his hoolabaloo and look for other fighters wiling to fight him. Nobody cares about floyd except his fans and his haters. LOL
ye, thats why he is doing better ppv numbers than pacquiao, because nobody cares about floyd :D.
Nope. That was just a funny a$$ quote that you're now taking offense to. I didn't know you was going to cry about it.
Serious question though. Did you or did you not post that comment in my sig?
do u rly think i take retards over the internet serious ?
and u forgot to add the Ray between sugar and robinson, in your floyd mayweather quote :D
Pac should forget about floyd. Ignore all his hoolabaloo and look for other fighters wiling to fight him. Nobody cares about floyd except his fans and his haters. LOL
Abusing quotes, lmao. You posted a sig-worthy comment. Quotes you're "using" are made up. Big f'ing difference.
like i said, i love retards like u.
and abusing is abusing, u cant have it both ways.
He just owned his own gayness with that post. And has the balls to say .
im patient with so many pactards like u, that doesnt mean im gay.
No, cause he doesn't use the Shoulder roll against sothpaws. He befuddles them 1-5 and comes at them hard 6-12. Honestly, what experience does Pac have with fighting anybody like Floyd. He wouldn't know what to do against a style like Mayweather. Even his trainer Freddie Roach understands this. Cotto even confused Pac when he chose to box instead of trade, it took Pac to the 12th round to actually land punches that could stop the fight.
Cotto was trying to survive and wasn't even boxing well, Mayweather does box well and he has the discipline to not stand there an trade, he wont let Pac do any of the things that he does best. Pac will eat straight right hands all night. That fight aint even competitive, Mosley has a better shot at beating Floyd than Pac does.
lol punches you dont see even a cat like reflexes wont see it so get over with it floyd will be busted up and u wont recognize his face after the fight..
No, cause he doesn't use the Shoulder roll against sothpaws. He befuddles them 1-5 and comes at them hard 6-12. Honestly, what experience does Pac have with fighting anybody like Floyd. He wouldn't know what to do against a style like Mayweather. Even his trainer Freddie Roach understands this. Cotto even confused Pac when he chose to box instead of trade, it took Pac to the 12th round to actually land punches that could stop the fight.
Cotto was trying to survive and wasn't even boxing well, Mayweather does box well and he has the discipline to not stand there an trade, he wont let Pac do any of the things that he does best. Pac will eat straight right hands all night. That fight aint even competitive, Mosley has a better shot at beating Floyd than Pac does.
You do know that the Cotto fight should have been ended earlier, how can pac still punch when Cotto's face was already messed up. Floyd might be slick but I think that is not enough to beat Pac, if Floyd had the work rate of Marquez then I think Pac is in for a trouble but that kind of pot shooting wouldn't even fazed pac and he will most likely attack the whole game until such time he can figure out how to dispose Floyd and we all know that Pac is an energizer bunny until the last round.
this is BS.. do you think Pac will let floyd shoulder roll him and run from him the whole fight?? if floyd does run he will be boooooooooooeeeedddddd and be forced to fight..
No, cause he doesn't use the Shoulder roll against sothpaws. He befuddles them 1-5 and comes at them hard 6-12. Honestly, what experience does Pac have with fighting anybody like Floyd. He wouldn't know what to do against a style like Mayweather. Even his trainer Freddie Roach understands this. Cotto even confused Pac when he chose to box instead of trade, it took Pac to the 12th round to actually land punches that could stop the fight.
Cotto was trying to survive and wasn't even boxing well, Mayweather does box well and he has the discipline to not stand there an trade, he wont let Pac do any of the things that he does best. Pac will eat straight right hands all night. That fight aint even competitive, Mosley has a better shot at beating Floyd than Pac does.