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did hop ducked calzaghe? I remember that, Hopkins demanded a lot of money to fight Calzaghe and and when they agreed terms Hopkins pulled out of the fight. I think he went on to fight someone shit like Hakkar for a lot less.

This is what I'd like to do to the racist Santino. http://gamma.applepics.com/7/userfiles/43338ca39ad28.gif Is there a reason you picked a black man beating a white man when calling Santino a racist or was it just a coincidence??

no, i went to another board and stole dat and I love Lewis KOs. I had Lewis' KO of Rahman too. OK, thats cool. I just thought it would be pretty hypocritical if you had of purposely chosen a black man beating a white man to symbolise what you would do to a racist. :D

Both fighters were rough, but the ref let Hatton do much more then Tszyu. Sorry bud, it's the facts though. I aint biased (I'm Canadian), it's just the truth. I'm not biased because i'm not a biased person, not because of my nationallity. i watched the match up and thought Tszyu was just as guilty as Hatton of making it a rough fight. Thats not even a bad thing, i like it when both fighters man up and go to war. I've made my feeling quite clear in the past, Hatton and Tszyu are two of my favuorite fighters, i'm pissed that one had to lose but i know the best man won on the night. Thats not to say i think Hattons better but i think he has the style to beat Tsyzu 9 times out of 10.

Don't think the fight was corrupted, but I think the ref was naturally biased towards Hatton. Its actually obvious, he let Hatton use ALOT of dirty tactics to win this fight. If this fight was in the USA, I guarantee Tszyu wasn't going to quit, and the fight would of been much closer. I'll never understand this "bias" talk, the fight i was wartching both fighters were just as rough as each other.

DLH should avoid Forrest as his first welter fight, I think Forrest beats DLH if he doesnt get a warm up first. DLH should just take an durable fighter when he first moves back down.

Arturo Gatti is the best 3 round fighter in the world.

Where does everyone rate Gatti at 140? I rate him about 6/7. Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter. World Light Welterweight Ratings Name 1 Kostya Tszyu 2 Floyd Mayweather Jr. 3 Ricky Hatton 4 Miguel Angel Cotto 5 Vivian Harris 6 Sharmba Mitchell 7 Arturo Gatti

Have i missed the Pac vs Morales fight? :confused: :D How does Roach know who's tougher for Pac when he's not fought all 3? It could be a good guess but i wouldnt be supprised if Morales give him his toughest fight.

You must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are. New to boxing, LMAO :D The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters. All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings. I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.

Muhammad Ali, without doubt.

Somebody KILL THIS THREAD!!!

Rocky Marciano Most underated fighter.

That is not what happened in Tszyu-Phillips. That fight was a war of attrition. Phillips had alot more left in the tank. than Tszyu. Phillips was the ONLY man at that time strong enough to not be outmuscled by Tszyu. Phillips also had that "fuck it, I got nothing to lose" thing going for him, making him able to take just about any shot. It was not ONE shot Phillips hit him with. He hit him with about 7 straight right hands before he was out. At that time Tszyu did not know how to clinch when he was hurt. As we have seen from Mitchell I and Judah, he has learned his lesson quite well. Gatti is not strong enough to slug with Tszyu, and is not a good enough boxer to outbox Tszyu. Gatti-Tszyu would be a great historic fight, but Gatti doesn't stand a chance. I dont want to see Tszyu vs Gatti, i have a bad feeling Tszyu will blast him out of there, i think Gatti's a very good fighter but he'd be better fighting Mayweather. I think Mayweather would win on points but its an interesting fight, i'd even like him to fight Harris.

ha hahahahah hahah Hatton - One Hit Wonder Cockfagshe - Hypochondriac malingering bitch Witter - Forrest Gump Reid - Grim that LACy ripped apart Bruno - Piece of shiet Eubank - Pussycat Danny Williams - Tomato Can hahahhaha This has to be a bad joke, your surely not that retarded!?!? :confused: Are you someone's 2nd username??

Hatton will be obliterated by Tszyu. Absolutely obliterated. Like the little big man :D It should be Little man big pussy, after seeing Mithcell pull out of the first Tszyu fight it was obviously he had no heart.

I wanna see Hopkins gettin KTFO! I think Calzaghe would have beat Hopkins, not sure about the KTFO but i think he would have won. Shame the fight didnt happen, i doubt Hopkins cares because he's made some serious cash since turning the fight down, while Calzaghe's done fuck all.

Bernard Hopkins, he's an exellent fighter but hasnt beaten enough quality fighters to be considered P4P number 1. Tito and DLH are quality fighters but not from the same weight class.

15 years ago i would have said Tapia....I used to party a bit! :D I think i'd enjoy a Tapia party for one reason or another :D

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I know history records a win for Lewis in this fight. His legacy is secure and he retired a Champion. Lewis won the fight. Although, IMO, future generations will never get the true story on this fight because so many people disagree on what happened. In My Opinion, Lewis got lucky. He was loosing the fight and was lucky to escape with a win. Lewis knows there was doubt about his performance in that fight and chose not to quiet the doubters. The fact that he refused to rematch Vitali, in front of all the world, convinced me that he himself doubted whether or not he could win a rematch. IMO, Lewis escaped into retirement knowing a rematch with Vitali was a risk to his legacy. He wanted to retire a Champion. In my mind he was a great champion that retired a coward. It was at that moment I became a Klitschko fan. IMO Vitali caught Lewis at the right time, that was a poor performance by Lewis and he was right to retire after it. People can say Lewis was a coward for not giving Vitali a rematch but isnt it better that fighters get out before its too late? Before its a health risk? Would people rather him have an Evander Holyfield attuitude? I hate it when fights get stopped on cuts but Vitali had terrible injurys, for me they were as good as a KO and there should be no doubt Lewis won that fight fairly, to say Lewis got lucky is a joke!

cotto and hatton..both praised for beating and dominating bums and opponents that arnt good or overhyped...both have a lot to prove before even being in to 5 welterweights...which most have tem in their top 5..i wonder why..they havent done sh*t or beat anyone to brag Maybe Cotto and Hatton just made decent fighters look like bums! Light welter is the best division, its the division with the most depth and i consider their wins to be a lot better than you make out. Look at who Hopkins has been fighting for the last couple of years, and he's rated the best P4P fighter. I think Cotto and Hatton have a lot to prove in their own division but as far as boxing goes they have prove a lot already. These two are underated by you.

Because Hatton is a pussy and needs every advantage he can get. It is going to be pretty bad when Hatton's hometown see's him get impaled by Kostya Tszyu's right hand. http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~yuana/stupid.gif Maybe you should think before you type, even Tsyzu's own people say its for the money.

All you Hatton fans must be smoking something if you think that Harris ran from Hatton. If Zoo doesnt fight Hatton will you say the same thing? Zoo is getting way more money then they were offering Harris. Do you guys forget that Cotto was the #1 contender for Harris belt for the longest and the kid never steped up to fight him. Do you guys think that Cotto ran? What has Hatton done for Harris to be running. You Hatton fans are on something Forget the other things you said, are you joking about the Hatton vs Hatton fight? Harris gave the excuses - "the money isnt enough" and "i'm the champ, why should i fight abroad". You could say thats fair until he fought Urkal in Germany for half the money. :D Wake up, Harris was all talk and couldnt back it up.

Thats dumb. It's not suppose to be the same. Just because he got offered more to fight Hatton doesnt mean the money was enough. Look how much more Hatton brings in then does Urkal. If you think he offered Harris his fair market value then your crazy WTF, your crazy!! :D Urkal sells tickets in Germany, he fills the stadiums out. Even if Urkal brings less money to the table its still a fight, Harris still has to train for 3months and step in the ring in another country for half what he could earn! If Hatton's such an easy win for him then why wouldnt he take the best payday of his career and make a name for himself? if he had beaten Hatton he would sell a lot more tickets now. Harris's fair market value is nothing, nobody wants to see him fight so he's fooling himself by thinking he's worth more than Hatton offered. I think Harris is a very good fighter but he's an idiot out of the ring. IMO Harris pussied out against Hatton because he knew it was a hard fight, he knew he'd lose part of his purse though the bet with Hatton.

Leonard Dorin Retired 2-3Months ago :( He's probably still winded from that Gatti shot. :)

I think that Tszyu has the edge in overall power, but Hatton has such a strong workrate, that if Hatton can get the fight into the second half he may be able to win rounds although I don't see KT getting stopped. Hatton wins his fights through attrition. He throws about 90 punches per round and had a great body attack. He is going to have to use that along with some defense to beat KT. Hatton UD12 for the lineal junior welterweight champoinship of the world. I think Tsyzu has an edge in power over Tyson!! :D Seriously, your right to say Tsyzu has the power advantage, Hatton can punch very hard but Tszyu punches like a big Middleweight. Hatton chins looked good up to now, if his chin holds up to Tszyu power then your prediction could come true because his workrate makes its hard to believe anyone could beat Hatton on point, unless Hatton was lucky to make it to the final bell. I favour Tszyu in this fight but i wouldnt be supprised if Hatton beats the champ.

I bet Tapia's party world was kind of frightening. I can imagine!! Snorting coke, die, revived, snort more coke and so on!! :D How many times has Tapia been pronounced dead?

I cant complain that Mayweather wants an easy fight, he's a small guy moving up so i'd expect him to do it but this guys record is pretty bad. I havent seen Bruseles fight so i cant comment on his ability, but its suprising HBO have agreed to this.

I say Harris because he is the WBA champ. He has wins over M'Baye, Hurtado, and Urkal twice including one by KO. He is also willing to fight anyone in the division He is also willing to fight anyone? :confused: If Harris hadnt bitched out of the Hatton fight we wouldnt be having this debate, Harris is obviously more willing to take less money in an easy fight. Harris's opponents are less than convincing. Hurtardo's only decent win was against Randall Bailey and the rest of the time he getting beat or fighting bums. Harris(who is a puncher) only other decent wins are against non punchers in low risk fights with Mbaye and Urkal. Harris has a lot of talk but he's not willing to fight a risky fighter. Cotto's has been moved along quickly, he's taken risky fights against durable or hard punching fighters like Sosa, Ndou, Pinto and Bailey. He's fighting Chop Chop next which is a step in the right direction. Gatti's more than willing to take risky fights, he's mix with a higher level of fighter than Cotto and Harris, he's willing to go to war to win. I doubt Gatti will ever be number 1 at 140 but he has my respect. My rating are based on skill and records. 1) Cotto 2) Gatti 3) Harris IMO Cotto has superior skills and would beat both fighters. Harris would beat Gatti but until he stop talking and starts fighting he's below him. There isnt much in it because non have really proved themsleves against the best fighters, hopefuly soon they will settle this debate for us.