Who deserves to be ranked higher

Agreed, Dude as I may have said earlier no hard feelings I enjoyed the spirited debate and I hope we can pick this back up if and when these two square up in the ring, Hopefully sooner than later. Good Times ahead! Well that means that you assume that I would pick Harris which is not true. Bet you didnt see that coming. I have always went back and forths on this fight so basicly I am 50/50. Go read the first post on the thread: Who would win: Harris vs Cotto No hard feelings. Im sure it wont be the last time we do this

One last thing, I also wanted to thank you for helping me get to this my 100th post. PEACE !!!!!!!!!

That just shows that you dont know me because I have also said that Harris hasnt really fought anyone either. I just said that he has fought better people then Cotto and you have disagreed. We both know who their opponents are and we still dont agree so for us to keep debating this is meaningless Agreed, Dude as I may have said earlier no hard feelings I enjoyed the spirited debate and I hope we can pick this back up if and when these two square up in the ring, Hopefully sooner than later. Good Times ahead!

Dude, before this ends let me point out two things: 1. Never once have I stated that he has the best resume` of all time! I am simply stating that IMO Cotto has a better resume` than Harris! 2. You yap on and on about how Cotto hasn't fought anybody yet. Then when called to make your point aka state your rebuttal you throw out M`Baye and Urkal like they are undeniable accomplishments, yet you never even try to back it up with anything else! So just fyi maybe before you start knocking a fighters level of comp. by saying that he fights guys who have only beaten nobodies, you might wanna check some of your guys opponents out first. Because there aint a whole lot there with the exception of Hurtado( who like I've said already besides a win over Bailey who else has he beaten! That just shows that you dont know me because I have also said that Harris hasnt really fought anyone either. I just said that he has fought better people then Cotto and you have disagreed. We both know who their opponents are and we still dont agree so for us to keep debating this is meaningless

You keep talking about evidence like he has the best resume in boxing. I still havent seen the evidence and the evidence I did see isnt that great to me. Were just going to have to leave it at that. You have to please forgive littile ole me if I have failed to see the greatness of wins over Baily, Pinto, and N'Dou Dude, before this ends let me point out two things: 1. Never once have I stated that he has the best resume` of all time! I am simply stating that IMO Cotto has a better resume` than Harris! 2. You yap on and on about how Cotto hasn't fought anybody yet. Then when called to make your point aka state your rebuttal you throw out M`Baye and Urkal like they are undeniable accomplishments, yet you never even try to back it up with anything else! So just fyi maybe before you start knocking a fighters level of comp. by saying that he fights guys who have only beaten nobodies, you might wanna check some of your guys opponents out first. Because there aint a whole lot there with the exception of Hurtado( who like I've said already besides a win over Bailey who else has he beaten!

Damn man I guess you must either be a really close friend or family member or some shit, because no matter how much evidence gets put in front of you you still somehow refuse to see it. Oh and are you still convinced that everybody else feels the same way about this as you do, and that all of us that disagree must not know shit about boxing? You keep talking about evidence like he has the best resume in boxing. I still havent seen the evidence and the evidence I did see isnt that great to me. Were just going to have to leave it at that. You have to please forgive littile ole me if I have failed to see the greatness of wins over Baily, Pinto, and N'Dou

Thats dumb. It's not suppose to be the same. Just because he got offered more to fight Hatton doesnt mean the money was enough. Look how much more Hatton brings in then does Urkal. If you think he offered Harris his fair market value then your crazy WTF, your crazy!! :D Urkal sells tickets in Germany, he fills the stadiums out. Even if Urkal brings less money to the table its still a fight, Harris still has to train for 3months and step in the ring in another country for half what he could earn! If Hatton's such an easy win for him then why wouldnt he take the best payday of his career and make a name for himself? if he had beaten Hatton he would sell a lot more tickets now. Harris's fair market value is nothing, nobody wants to see him fight so he's fooling himself by thinking he's worth more than Hatton offered. I think Harris is a very good fighter but he's an idiot out of the ring. IMO Harris pussied out against Hatton because he knew it was a hard fight, he knew he'd lose part of his purse though the bet with Hatton.

Damn man I guess you must either be a really close friend or family member or some shit, because no matter how much evidence gets put in front of you you still somehow refuse to see it. Oh and are you still convinced that everybody else feels the same way about this as you do, and that all of us that disagree must not know shit about boxing?

The money offered for Hatton was more than double offered for Urkal, Harris took the short money and easy fight. Thats dumb. It's not suppose to be the same. Just because he got offered more to fight Hatton doesnt mean the money was enough. Look how much more Hatton brings in then does Urkal. If you think he offered Harris his fair market value then your crazy

Why is that an excuse? The money wasnt enough The money offered for Hatton was more than double offered for Urkal, Harris took the short money and easy fight.

Forget the other things you said, are you joking about the Hatton vs Hatton fight? Harris gave the excuses - "the money isnt enough" and "i'm the champ, why should i fight abroad". You could say thats fair until he fought Urkal in Germany for half the money. :D Wake up, Harris was all talk and couldnt back it up. Why is that an excuse? The money wasnt enough

All you Hatton fans must be smoking something if you think that Harris ran from Hatton. If Zoo doesnt fight Hatton will you say the same thing? Zoo is getting way more money then they were offering Harris. Do you guys forget that Cotto was the #1 contender for Harris belt for the longest and the kid never steped up to fight him. Do you guys think that Cotto ran? What has Hatton done for Harris to be running. You Hatton fans are on something Forget the other things you said, are you joking about the Hatton vs Hatton fight? Harris gave the excuses - "the money isnt enough" and "i'm the champ, why should i fight abroad". You could say thats fair until he fought Urkal in Germany for half the money. :D Wake up, Harris was all talk and couldnt back it up.

So in your eyes it's not the champion's obligation to make the fight happen with the #1 contender, it's up to the #1 contender to chase him around and what, beg him for the fight? Cause IMO once a fighter gets to the #1 spot there isn't anything more to do but wait for the champion to step up and defend his title against the #1 ranked opponent! As for Tszyu gettung offered more money for a fight w/ Hatton than Harris was offered, what do you expect? That is what is supposed to happen with the recognized division champion. You don't think that Tszyu deserves more $ than Harris or what? What are you talking about? Harris was begging for the Cotto fight in every interview. He said that he was being protected. Cotto's people never steped up and they still havent.

So in your eyes it's not the champion's obligation to make the fight happen with the #1 contender, it's up to the #1 contender to chase him around and what, beg him for the fight? Cause IMO once a fighter gets to the #1 spot there isn't anything more to do but wait for the champion to step up and defend his title against the #1 ranked opponent! As for Tszyu gettung offered more money for a fight w/ Hatton than Harris was offered, what do you expect? That is what is supposed to happen with the recognized division champion. You don't think that Tszyu deserves more $ than Harris or what? What are you talking about? Harris was begging for the Cotto fight

All you Hatton fans must be smoking something if you think that Harris ran from Hatton. If Zoo doesnt fight Hatton will you say the same thing? Zoo is getting way more money then they were offering Harris. Do you guys forget that Cotto was the #1 contender for Harris belt for the longest and the kid never steped up to fight him. Do you guys think that Cotto ran? What has Hatton done for Harris to be running. You Hatton fans are on something So in your eyes it's not the champion's obligation to make the fight happen with the #1 contender, it's up to the #1 contender to chase him around and what, beg him for the fight? Cause IMO once a fighter gets to the #1 spot there isn't anything more to do but wait for the champion to step up and defend his title against the #1 ranked opponent! As for Tszyu gettung offered more money for a fight w/ Hatton than Harris was offered, what do you expect? That is what is supposed to happen with the recognized division champion. You don't think that Tszyu deserves more $ than Harris or what?

Cotto will prove more of a danger to Hatton than KT. But Cotto will eventaully be conqured by the Hitman. You are joking, right?

Gatti's 140 lb. Resume' ------------ 1. Terron Millet TKO4: Excellent showing against a legitimate contendor at 140 lb. Simply blows Millet away. 2. Mickey Ward L10: A great fight, one for the ages, but Gatti can't be having these kind of life and death struggles with club fighters. 3. Mickey Ward UD12: Rebounds with the kind of performance I expected in the first fight. 4. Mickey Ward UD12: Is absolutely dominating Ward, until he breaks his right hand. I let this one slide. 5. Gianluca Branco UD12: He should've been more assertive against Branco, a guy who simply had NOTHING. 6. Leonard Dorin KO2: Was I the only one predicting a blow out? ------------ Bottom line, he's exciting, but not the kind of fighter who can hang with a Tszyu or a Mayweather.

All you Hatton fans must be smoking something if you think that Harris ran from Hatton. If Zoo doesnt fight Hatton will you say the same thing? Zoo is getting way more money then they were offering Harris. Do you guys forget that Cotto was the #1 contender for Harris belt for the longest and the kid never steped up to fight him. Do you guys think that Cotto ran? What has Hatton done for Harris to be running. You Hatton fans are on something

Champ: Kostya Tszyu 1. Vivian Harris 2. Miguel Cotto 3. Arturo Gatti 4. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 5. Ricky Hatton

Gatti doesn`tg deserve a higher ranking. He is a paper chap. He beat Branco ( average protected fighter ) and he beat lightweight Dorin ( Dorin is a good fighter, world class, not a light welterweight though but still a decent fighter and a 2nd round KO is an excellent result ). But the problem is he hasn`t beaten a world champion in his weight division since Tracy Patterson. Except former IBF light welterweight champ Terron Millett? :) Or former WBC Super Featherweight Title Gabriel Ruelas (Gatti fought for the IBF Super Featherweight Title)? :) (if you meant current world champ; well you can only do that when you win a title and it is not vacant)