gatti heart and power give him a chance against anyone period...so yes he has a chance...gatti heart is probably bigger then hopkins,tito's and Dlh put together..his heart is something you just dont see in boxing now-a-days...and it gives him a great shot at beating anyone no matter if his skill arnt the best
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Something else that would be a factor against PBF is the sheer volume of punches that Gatti often throws in fights where he can keep his opponent in front of him. PBF is quick on his feet, but he has been walked down consistently through entire fights by certain opponents. Of course, when they had him against the ropes, they couldn't really capitalize because of his counterpunching and head movement, but one was able to hit him enough to cause swelling under his eye, my point is, what if it was Gatti? I think with the volume of punches he throws, and PBF's bad hands, Gatti would be able to get him in trouble, just a thought.
I thought you said that you havent even seen Floyd fight
I never seen a lot of people fight, but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that they're good or better than another fighter. Its called a "scouting report." Geez man too many smart asses in these forums.
Gatti has a chance with anyone he fights, there are just some fighters I don't think I would like to see him in with. I think KT would be a very entertaining fight, AND I'd give Gatti a chance, he has good handspeed, punches with some authority, and is always in great shape. I think Gatti is much more than a three round fighter, and I think KT punches harder, no doubt, but IMO, Gatti puts his punches together better.
I agree that Gatti puts his punches together better, but I always feel like he comes out the worse in the exchanges. As long as he keeps boxing he's great.
New to boxing, LMAO :D
The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters.
All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings.
I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.
A number ranking system is biased too, because it ranks unbeaten fighters way too high, look how high boxrec ranks Valuev, it is ridiculous.
You must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are.
New to boxing, LMAO :D
The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters.
All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings.
I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.
Where does everyone rate Gatti at 140?
I rate him about 6/7.
Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter.
World Light Welterweight Ratings
Name
1 Kostya Tszyu
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3 Ricky Hatton
4 Miguel Angel Cotto
5 Vivian Harris
6 Sharmba Mitchell
7 Arturo Gatti
You must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are.
Entertainment-wise, he's way up there. As far as skills, he isn't so bad but there is just loads of talent in his division. That's why he'll never be ranked as high.
Where does everyone rate Gatti at 140?
I rate him about 6/7.
Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter.
World Light Welterweight Ratings
Name
1 Kostya Tszyu
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3 Ricky Hatton
4 Miguel Angel Cotto
5 Vivian Harris
6 Sharmba Mitchell
7 Arturo Gatti
I think you do rather a diservice to Nigel Benn there I have to say, I understand the point you are trying to make in terms of lack of technical boxing ability at the very highest level but Benn had a bigger heart, tougher chin and more pop in either hand than Gatti, hence he was at the top of his division and did mix it with the best. You certainly do a diservice to G-Man with your "guys like" comment, he was one of the best boxers pound for pound in the world coming into the fight with Benn.
Gatti has the ability at 140 to go 12 with the likes of Mayweather and Mitchell because they don't really bang, he would struggle against Tyzsu, Hatton and Cotto. Below them Gatti is probably on a level with Harris and could beat the likes of Chop Chop and Leija, Spad etc.
i meant no disrespect to gerald with my "guys like" comment. i was at that fight and have sent a donation to help his medical bills (i sent the price of my ticket).
Tszyu is in my book at the very top of the light welterweight division. The sharp and hungry Tszyu we seen at the last fight against Mitchell will probably win against Gatti.
Gatti boxing will give Kostya the opportunity to land the straight right from long distance, I think Tszyu 's best weapon. So Gatti should fight half distance and giving Tszyu angles (and punishing Tszyu's body!).
With Gatti's heart there is ALWAYS the possibility (Tszyu defense mostly consist of his offense or leaning backwards).
A fight I definitely want to see!! :)
And probably will not be made :mad:
(and that is not because the fighters do not want it!)
Gatti outboxed Tracy Harris Patterson TWICE, and in the process surprising many (including Patterson in the first fight) that the puncher Gatti could box.
Both Ivan Robinson fights were close; the first a SD the second would have been scored a draw would there been no point deduction for Gatti. Ivan was the better boxer in both, but Gatti being "out boxed", no (if rememder it correctly the second fight Gatti lost his steam in the last part of the fight).
I don't know about Tszyu "blasting" Gatti. Tszyu is a lot older than he was in his prime and after watching the Vince Phillips fight, I think Gatti has a good chance. I think it would be a great fight. Mayweather.. now that might be pushing it a little. But I would never count Gatti out in a fight. He has the ability to end a fight with one punch, so he's never far from winning a match. Tszyu vs. Gatti prediction: Draw.
I thought you said that you havent even seen Floyd fight
Gatti has a chance with anyone he fights, there are just some fighters I don't think I would like to see him in with. I think KT would be a very entertaining fight, AND I'd give Gatti a chance, he has good handspeed, punches with some authority, and is always in great shape. I think Gatti is much more than a three round fighter, and I think KT punches harder, no doubt, but IMO, Gatti puts his punches together better.
I don't know about Tszyu "blasting" Gatti. Tszyu is a lot older than he was in his prime and after watching the Vince Phillips fight, I think Gatti has a good chance. I think it would be a great fight. Mayweather.. now that might be pushing it a little. But I would never count Gatti out in a fight. He has the ability to end a fight with one punch, so he's never far from winning a match. Tszyu vs. Gatti prediction: Draw.
That is not what happened in Tszyu-Phillips. That fight was a war of attrition. Phillips had alot more left in the tank. than Tszyu.
Phillips was the ONLY man at that time strong enough to not be outmuscled by Tszyu. Phillips also had that "fuck it, I got nothing to lose" thing going for him, making him able to take just about any shot.
It was not ONE shot Phillips hit him with. He hit him with about 7 straight right hands before he was out. At that time Tszyu did not know how to clinch when he was hurt. As we have seen from Mitchell I and Judah, he has learned his lesson quite well.
Gatti is not strong enough to slug with Tszyu, and is not a good enough boxer to outbox Tszyu.
Gatti-Tszyu would be a great historic fight, but Gatti doesn't stand a chance.
I dont want to see Tszyu vs Gatti, i have a bad feeling Tszyu will blast him out of there, i think Gatti's a very good fighter but he'd be better fighting Mayweather.
I think Mayweather would win on points but its an interesting fight, i'd even like him to fight Harris.
I think Gatti should angle for a Tsyzu fight. Tsyzu is getting on and Vince Philips showed if you hit Tsyzu square he can be KO`ed. I`d pick Tsyzu to stop Gatti late but with the power and the heart Gatti might just have an outside shot of a miricle!
That is not what happened in Tszyu-Phillips. That fight was a war of attrition. Phillips had alot more left in the tank. than Tszyu.
Phillips was the ONLY man at that time strong enough to not be outmuscled by Tszyu. Phillips also had that "fuck it, I got nothing to lose" thing going for him, making him able to take just about any shot.
It was not ONE shot Phillips hit him with. He hit him with about 7 straight right hands before he was out. At that time Tszyu did not know how to clinch when he was hurt. As we have seen from Mitchell I and Judah, he has learned his lesson quite well.
Gatti is not strong enough to slug with Tszyu, and is not a good enough boxer to outbox Tszyu.
Gatti-Tszyu would be a great historic fight, but Gatti doesn't stand a chance.
Then what would you call it? He was outbox boxed twice. Ivan Robinson is no puncher so he had to box Gatti. The same Gatti who was out boxed by Angel Manfredy then KO'ed.
Outboxed by manfredy and than KO-ed?
The fight about was even, with Gatti growing in the fight. Than it was stopped on a cut!