Vae_Victis

Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk...,

Although as a Brit I felt for Joshua being out of his depth with a grossly over weight fighter , I also had a massive laugh at laurel and Hardy ....Edward and Barry sat at ring side .They had put on a shyte PPV where they tried to get away with a shyte line up of names fighting inept opponents, it back fired in a 'huge' way! The level of Opposition was shyte ...Katie Taylor was clearly beaten but got the nod.,J.B. got the win against a old light faded opponent..did just ok. Josh Kelly was cut badly over both eyes and looked unfortunately after five and didn't deserve the draw (but we can pass on that after only ten fights) Smith fought a ex. sparring partner who had never once fought up at super middle weight. And Coyle was hammered by a ordinary fighter in his prime that was way past his prime. Barry and Edward are bad for boxing .They have already cost you the fans too many great fights .In the nineties they had Eubank Sr. fighting people like Tony Thornton in defence of his 'world title' whilst the likes of Mike McCallum and the great James Toney never got a mention. It took a grossly overweight fighter to derail this farce and at 1/100 on Joshua was finally seen for what he is .A decent hitter with limited boxing skills a big heart and a dicky chin. The quicker these clowns are off the scene the better the boxing world will be. Yes, the sooner Eddie, the talking anus, Hearn is gone from boxing, the better.

“Between Showtime and Fox, PBC will have a bigger pool of budget money than any other promoter in boxing, including Eddie Hearn with DAZN,” an industry source who was not authorized to speak publicly told The Ring." Second place, Eddie. Get used to it.

Bums last until late in the fight, so I can see the best at the weight doing a lot more than that. Hoping for punching power to get the job done against a much better technical fighter with power of his own mostly ends in failure. It will here as well. People never learn. Joshua doesn't want to find out about Wilder's power even though he's calling him out for the April date? Oh right. Wilder is the one who is stalling by asking for half the money even though he brings nothing to the table. He can't sell tickets to save his life. And gets paid nowhere neat to what Joshua does. The only way he gets paid is with the right dance partner. Outside of Fury, Whyte and Joshua, Wilder keeps getting paid around the 2 mill mark. No one has died against Wilder so stop being so bombastic. Jeez! The fight will happen in the next year, IF Wilder stops with his Ludacris demands. B sides don't get rematch clauses, it's never happened before. And he isn't getting 50% when he brings nothing to the table. When Wilder sees sense, then we'll get the fight. But don't hold your breath. After publicly demanding fifty-million American to fight Wilder, AJ rejected an eighty-million dollar two fight confirmed offer to fight Wilder. Has AJ ever brought that amount to any of his 22 fights? AJ's rejection of this offer has made him the object of public ridicule. Not only fans but also retired champions such as Lennox Lewis cannot believe that AJ refused to fight Wilder for that guaranteed purse. As for AJ's technical ability, I'll again invite you and others to rewatch AJ's 2012 Olympic bouts against Savon, Dycho, and Cammarelle. Especially against I. Dycho the only technical ability AJ displayed was head butting. Why he was not deducted any points or disqualified, I'll never understand. And E. Savon and R. Cammarelle clearly outboxed AJ making him look slow and robotic. AJ's gold medal was a gift of corrupt or incompetent judging and nothing else. And in his bout against Klitschko, AJ was defenseless after Klitschko knocked him down in the sixth round. Why Wlad let AJ off the hook, I'll never know; however, Wlad did and that was the only reason AJ survived that round. Was it Wlad's old age? Was it stupidity? Was it corruption? Was it a mistaken gamble? Was it Wlad's gift to AJ? Whatever it was, it is almost as unexplainable as Wlad's bizarre loss to Fury. And think about that one. You and other fans of AJ credit him with wins over highly credible opponents; however, in winning the championship and belts, AJ defeated Wlad, a 41 year old fighter who was humiliated in his previous fight, a fight which had taken place 17 months before. So what made Wlad a credible opponent that night? Was it the fact that it took AJ until 2:25 of the 11th round to TKO Wlad? Finally, I know that Wilder has yet to kill any of his opponents; however, that hasn't stopped AJ from acting as if it has already happened and that he'll likely be next. As a boxing fan who wants to see Wilder and AJ fight, I'm now asking you to please write AJ imploring him to man up and sign to fight Wilder. Somebody has to let the lad know that they think he can do it. P.S. It's ludicrous and not Ludacris (he's an entertainer I guess).

AJ = Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Shut your yap, AJ and fight! And make sure that it's Wilder. That's Deontay Wilder from Alabama, USA. The guy who will own your soul, destroy your cranium, and have your brain draining out your nostrils. You know, the guy you've been running from. You spineless coward.

I already know who won the fights. Joshua beat Cammarelle by 8 shots. It's for you to watch again and tell me how many punches the fighters landed on each other. Then as I say, we'll take it from there. So get watching and counting. Because I will prove you wrong. The fight is on YT so it won't be a problem. As I've already said, you've got no credibility when it comes to AJ. Your loyalty to and love of AJ makes it impossible for you to be objective when his boxing is the topic of conversation. I understand that; it is now incumbent upon you to work through this dilemma. I'll keep you in my prayers. Nighty night.

Spoken by a real fighter: “But they shouldn’t be scared of losing. We’re gladiators, this is what we do." This is something that is all too often missing in 21st century boxing.

Lololololol. I’m banning you from computer games. You can’t be trusted https://goo.gl/images/ks1k7T Oh no, not that!

"And no, Joshua didn't get gifts at all, that's just poisonous Americans again trying to smear him. He won the fights, end of story." With these words you've just destroyed any credibility you may have had. AJ's 2012 Olympic wins were corrupt gifts and nothing more. Watch the videos. It's all there to see.

Joshua actually has a worthy resume, Wilder doesn't. Wilder's whole career has been nothing but talk. When he fights his bums, he still struggles with them. Can you imagine what Joshua is going to do to him? Wilder isn't cut out for this level, we already know this. Wilder won't fight unless he gets half, do you think that's fair considering Joshua brings all the money to the table while Wilder brings none? Sid-Knee, You and I see this from opposing viewpoints, and I respect your opinion; however, as I've stated on previous threads, I cannot see how AJ can possibly survive Wilder's punching power. Now if they ever fight, AJ may well prove me to be wrong; however, I'll have to see it to believe it. And I think that any fight will be a very long time coming (if ever). AJ simply doesn't want to find out how life changing Wilder's power is. And I know that I would not either. I just had a close relative die from what everybody believed to be a minor head injury. My neighbor's ex had a minor head injury just last month, and he'll never be coherent again. My brother-in-law recently had a classmate who received a "bump" on the head and he also died from it. So what I'm saying is that getting tagged (repeatedly) by Wilder's power isn't a joke, and unfortunately, I fully expect that someday some opponent of his will wind up like Magomed Abdusalamov or perhaps even die from blows received in the ring. And I believe that this is a realistic concern of AJ as well as Eddie Hearn. Right now they know that AJ isn't ready to face Wilder - hence no fight. AJ's defense certainly won't keep Wilder from teeing off on AJ, and his offense isn't going to prevent it either. And until AJ and company find a way to change that, there will be no fight between AJ and Wilder. Presently it appears that Eddie Hearn is stalling for time to let Wilder grow old or get injured or even retire. Just keep pushing that fight further back - any excuse will do. Now that's my take, and if Wilder beats Fury and Hearn doesn't actively pursue (under honorable terms - not insulting terms) a 2019 fight with Wilder, then my suspicions will be confirmed. And if I'm wrong, then we will all be happy as the fight will be made.

That is a lot of information to absorb with no paragraphs but nevertheless I will analyse it with the same seriousness as it was written Sometimes I debate with some of you guys about the 50 million and there was this American in particular where I felt we were going somewhere I even acknowledged perhaps the fear of fighting his toughest opponent abroad was potentially daunting and he wanted to exercise his right having his biggest fight in his life at home. Having gone back and forth 10 times he understood. Well he accepted it but said other fighters would jump at it. Basically we agreed to disagree. The next day he was back on the forum saying exactly the same thing . I had to check his name to see if he was the same person. Any topic it was Joshua the same 50 million point. I do understand it but after you have made the point over 20-25 times surely you must have something else to say? You yourself you mention the 50 million but you have much more substance or rather information for me to attack😜 Ok let’s start Wilder was knocked out as an amateur and got bronze in the Olympics and Joshua got Gold that is the only facts that need to be discussed. Joshua’s technical ability against certain opponents is irrelevant . I actually don’t understand the point you are trying to make . Now prior to the Olympics I knew nothing of Joshua and the first time I laid eyes on AJ was his fight in the Olympic final and I thought “Damn that guy handled Joshua easy” but Joshua got the nod. Such is life. As for AJ being defenceless after being knocked down by Klitschko if you watch it again Klitschko did try and press but Joshua actually showed good defensive skills and I don’t think Klitschko hit him cleanly the remaining of the round. I will say a aggressive minded fighter the outcome may have been different but who knows. I’m not going to spend my time thinking about the what if’s . As for Wladimir being a credible opponent I don’t feel I need to answer that because I’m sure Wilder fans view Fury as a credible opponent even after his hiatus. Are you suggesting if Wilder was offered to face Klitschko for the WBA belt in 2017 that he would decline it and chase a more credible opponent after 10 years as a professional? If so do you remember who he fought round about that time? "I will say a aggressive minded fighter the outcome may have been different but who knows. I’m not going to spend my time thinking about the what if’s" I agree with you here. Defenseless was an exaggeration.

Yes, they are on YT. And from that you'll see Joshua winning those fights. The first fight with Savon was the hardest fight for him. I had Savon by 1 scoring point at the end. But it went to countback which Joshua won. Which is fair enough because 1 scoring punch isn't enough to separate them. Not only that but Joshua landed the much harder shots so him getting the decision is as I say, fair enough. The other fights though I had Joshua winning with room to spare. I recorded all fights on a widescreen HD TV and counted every punch. I did this because I knew the Americans were going to smear a British Heavyweight by claiming he lost his fights. You're that predictable. You didn't let me down. So if you want to watch those fights again and tell me how many punches each fighter landed in every round we can take it from there. Dream on. Joshua lost those fight to the extent that it was outright corruption, and he was clowned by Roberto Cammarelle. Have a writing utensil and paper with you while you rewatch the videos. Set it on .25 speed and mark down the punches for each fighter. If you are accurate, you will see that AJ comes in second to his opponents in three of his fights. Do this before you respond with some blind emotional drivel such as, "AJ won!" Because AJ lost.

Agreed, Floyd did not carry Connor his face in the corner said it all. He was constantly outjabbed through out and countered. Floyd became reckless getting hit because he was desperate to make something happen. Floyd kept missing punches and the punches that stopped Connor were grazing jabs and arms punches which he was overreaching with recklessly. The worst performance and it was the best he can do cause he has no chance to outbox connor. He didn't carry Connor this was simply a case of bad style matchup. That's why he wanted no part of Khan cause that wouldv been khans easiest fight more dominant than Devon/paulie wins. Even tho Floyd stopped Connor boxing lost that day! Connor did better than every opp of floyds Either you are a troll or you are blind to reality. Conor was a puppet on a string, and Floyd was the puppet master. Floyd literally beat the snot out of Conor, but only did so after he carried Conor long enough to give the fans a show. Perhaps the idea was to have a rematch and haul in another fortune. Perhaps the idea was to have a laugh at Conor's expense. Whatever the reason, Floyd carried Conor until he decided to close the show, and there was nothing that Conor could do about it. But for referee Robert Byrd's timely intervention, Floyd would have knocked out Conor stone cold or beaten him until his brain leaked out his nostrils.

I don't know what's really going on with these negotiations, and it doesn't look great on either party, but, to give Eddie his due, this will introduce Wilder to a larger UK audience, which is where most of the ££££ will be coming from. Because other than Non Stop Ortiz Is The Second Coming Boxing, no one really gives a **** about Wilder, do they? Just being honest... the guy couldn't sell out a phone booth. Business. What part of the fifty million dollars guaranteed will, "most of the ££££ will be coming from"? None of it.

Given what he's said about AJ's mum, I've lost all respect for Miller. There was no need to go there.

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Given all the horse***** that Eddied has been spewing, we're suppose to believe another line of his bulsh? Roberto Cammarelle made AJ look slow and uncoordinated in their Olympic 2012 title bout; Usyk will make AJ look blind and crippled. Usyk = cat like reflexes. AJ = oaf like reflexes. There is no way to prepare AJ for what Usyk brings to the ring. The fight would be no better than a comedy act at best. Usyk, "AJ. your shoe's untied" AJ, (looks down at shoe to get belted with Usyk's uppercut) "Thanks." And on and on. Short of Usyk grabbing AJ's wrists and beating him about the face with this own fists, there will be nothing that Usyk won't be able to do to AJ.

"Usyk gets knocked out by Wilder and Joshua even though for the most part he could dry well outbox them. Especially Wilder, but the minute they touch him he is missing." I never said Usyk beats Wilder (Wiled has what AJ lacks - lethal fists and an unorthodox style); however, I said and I will say again, Usyk beats AJ any and every time as long as Usyk is in his prime. AJ is too slow, too predictable, and too talentless. I promise that it will be a comedy or a cartoon - with AJ playing the fool.

Very true and valid points...but stylistically Robinson was in his own class especially for that era. I 100% agree.

Having 19 loses is not really so bad if you've had over 200 fights. He had 174 wins/108 knockouts...nobody's stats come close. His style was the prototype for Mohamed Ali who idolized him. He is the all-time greatest in my books. Just for the record, Archie Moore had 219 fights, 186 wins, 132 KOs, 23 losses with 7 by KO, and 10 draws in a 27.5 year career. So let's not forget the Old Mongoose. And Willie Pep was 229 wins, 11 losses, and 1 draw. So we can't forget him either.

Fury vs Chisora? You have to be joking. Fury owns Chisora.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion, and this is what Jose Luis Castillo believes. So what. Big deal. It is meaningless.

Take that, Eddie Hearn!

Not only could Conor McGregor not beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a boxing match, Conor McGregor could not beat 65 year old Floyd Mayweather Sr. either (even with Conor filled to the brim with PEDs let alone natural). Conor is very, very limited as a boxer regardless of what you see in his UFC fights, and this would be readily apparent to all if Conor had to fight natural. IMHO Conor is the biggest fraud the UFC has ever promoted, and there is next to nothing legit about his fights.

Unfortunately for AJ, Fury speaks the ugly truth. To the day he dies, AJ will be the boxer who reneged on the fifty million dollar public demand he made to fight Wilder. How embarrassing. How sad. How unbelievable. Say it ain't so, AJ.

It is definitely more than a 50 million fight and in April the fight will be even bigger. As far as who deserves what without question he deserves a percentage fee. Any champion for that matter especially in a unification deserves to sign a fight knowing his worth in a fight.i am a Joshua fan but I agree with all Wilder fans in this case. Even Eddie’s contradictions on occasion you make valid points but to suggest that absolutely everything he says is false and everything that stems from Team Wilder is the truth is a little naive. The narrative that Joshua is scared is cool and I’m not denying he has looked very sheepish but there is a contract he has signed that he is waiting for Wilder’s signature.... I know it’s a bull$**** contract then let Wilder or his team be vocal and say we want this percentage and then we sign. Now it’s all silent with Wilders last words being 50/50. Most of you Americans no that percentage is stupid yet you are all fine to keep quiet but talk about josh is scared and the 50 million. "Most of you Americans no that percentage is stupid" If a fifty - fifty split was fine with Muhammad Ali in Ali vs Frazier I, tell me how it isn't fine in Joshua - Wilder? What ever could raise Anthony Joshua's impact on boxing so that he would get a better deal in Joshua vs Wilder than Ali got in Ali vs Frazier - especially at this stage of AJ's career (not that AJ will ever have the impact on boxing that Ali has had). Ali's record going into the Frazier fight: 31 - 0 and nine previous (major) title fights at age 29. AJ's record when he refused to sign for fifty million dollars: 21 - 0 with a handful of title fights at age 28. Ali won his Olympic gold medal without controversy. AJ's Olympic gold medal was a gift - the judges decision an outright robbery. In addition to his impact on boxing, by 1971, Muhammad Ali was known throughout the entire world as a public figure who place his career on the line for refusing to support the undeclared Vietnam war. AJ's has a criminal record and has served time in Reading Prison, but he isn't world renowned. So tell me again that AJ deserves a greater percentage than does Wilder. Only an AJ fanboy or a complete dolt would believe that. Muhammad Ali split the purse 50 - 50 with Joe Frazier, and there is no way that Anthony Joshua (especially at this stage of his career) deserves any better deal than 50 - 50 for fighting Wilder. AJ's insistence on getting a greater percentage than Wilder is simply AJ's way of refusing to fight Wilder and nothing more. Remember, AJ's turned down fifty million dollars guaranteed. Either AJ is incapable of understanding what fifty million dollars guaranteed means, or AJ knows that he'll lose to Wilder and is refusing to sign for that reason.

A lot of people don’t know this but she’s a hoe and real easy to smash, if you join one of the nyc area gyms she trains in and are half good looking, in shape, she’s an easy lay Whether it is true or false, I can't see why you feel the need to broadcast this on BoxingScene. Of what benefit is your posting? Does it make you feel better to have posted this? If so, see a shrink, and do it soon.

I'd love to see Fury vs Ruiz, and if it happens, I believe that Ruiz would beat Fury. Of course I also believe that Ruiz will win the rematch with AJ (as long as there is no ref interference as in the AJ vs Joseph Parker bout -- meaning that the fighters fight and not be prevented from fighting). Also, watch Ruiz vs Parker, and tell me that Ruiz did not get cheated in the decision. I'd love to see a rematch of that fight too. Ruiz may not be a beach body god; however, he can and does fight!

This is the truth of the matter. Wilder is my man but hes asking for a wage he shouldnt get yet. Get the best payday you can and when you win and he will, you are side A. Wilder was able to guarantee fifty million for AJ for a fight in America. What money has AJ even offered yet alone guaranteed Wilder to fight anywhere that approaches fifty million for either of them??? As far as I am concerned, the fighter who can guarantee the biggest purse is the A side. Look, GGG has the belts; however, Canelo is suppose to be the A side because Canelo is the one who'll bring the fans to make the purse. See? The guy who guarantees the biggest payday is the A side. Unless of course we are dumb enough to forget all the Canelo reasoning which makes him the A side despite GGG having the titles. So, Wilder guarantees fifty million for AJ, and AJ can't come close to guaranteeing that amount of money for anybody. so, who is the A side, and who is the B side??? Why? Because Eddie Hernia says so? Are you that stupid? Others may be, but I'm asking is you are. Are you?

That island is bigger than the USA and has a population of New York, Im an Aussie and many times have been to the US we have so much space and non population they don't call Aus the lucky country for nothing, maybe they mean lucky as in crooked decisions lol. I see TC chopping Horn down, but remember When Floyd fought Hatton and Rickys bum rushing made it messy and looking like he was in the fight for a few rounds until Floyd got that little bit of space and it was all over, that's how I see this as Horn will bum rush him and try and be physical and it will be messy early then TC will start teeing off getting a stoppage win mid to late rounds. Aussies are very tough Horn will give all he has but I doubt it will be enough at this level. It's bad enough to have to read all this Jeff Horn boxing prowess nonsense, but to have an ought right false statement about the size of Australia compared to the USA posted as a correct fact is just too much. The USA is larger than Australia - even discounting the Great Lakes. That's the contiguous states and with Alaska, it is even bigger. "Australia is the planet's sixth largest country after Russia, Canada, China, the USA, and Brazil. At 7 692 024 km2, it accounts for just five percent of the world's land area of 149 450 000 km2, and although it is the smallest continental land mass, it is the world's largest island."

Well, I'm hoping that both fighters read this and take it to heart; anything to improve upon last year's stinker.