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The answer is no. No he isn't

Regardless of the amount of fights he has had, he is past his prime physically. That was the original statement of the post I made. The citing of Ali was to gain reference, as I felt that was a very noteworthy fight a heavyweight fighter had in roughly that age range. I get Ali had more wear and tear, but the point wasn't the amount of fights they had, the point was age. If you had taken Ali and had him have light touch fights all the way until he was 39 he would still be past his physical best by the time he was 39, because thats just the way it is. Now, can some fighters stave off aging better than others, of course. But that doesnt mean that they are at their best when in their 40s, it just means they are less bad (relatively to their peak) than others. I understand the point you are making. But using Ali as a comparison point is just a terrible example. Yes most fighters at 39 are not as good as they were at 30. But Ali was literally brain damaged and dealing with the effects of Parkinson's at 30. Usyk is still near his prime form. He has never taken alot of damage. He has fought in a very weak HW era. There are guys who age well and train intelligently. Usyk is physically able to fight Moses or any other young guy and will be for probably another year or two.

Come on, Wladimir was still doing well enough at his age, having almost 3 times as many fights as him. Usyk took or was given, as we used to say, "the soft of the bread" throughout his career. Another good example. Ali was having trouble speaking and showing signs of brain injury in 1971 when he was 29. Usyk looks and sounds like a healthy 30 year old.

No, not insanely ridiculous- no need to go overboard. They are both heavyweight champions who fought into their late 30s and possibly beyond; there aren't many men ever who have ever done that so comparisons are apt. That being written, yes Ali took more damage in his career, but 39 is old for a boxer. Even if a man had no fights ever and remained fresh simply just training he would be past his physical peak by the time he was 39, thats just the way things are. Usyk hasn't been in wars and has had 24 fights. Ali was waaay past his best at 39. That is why the comparison is insane. Usyk doesn't have half the wear and tear of Ali at 39. A far better comparison would be Bhop. Usyk is a slick fighter who hasn't taken major damage. He is older than the average fighter but he isn't an old guy by any means.

I think Zayas does far better than people think he will and possibly wins the UD. Regardless, with Boot's sparring reputation and the way his fanbase (Bootsagonian) talks, if he doesn't knock Zander unconscious and embarrass him I will be let down.

There is no comparison between Ali at 39 and Usyk at 39. Ali had 61 fights by that age and was already showing signs of brain damage. Ali fought in the golden era of HW's and they fought 15 rounders back then and guys went to war. It was barely the same sport. Especially in the HW division. Usyk is a great fighter. That said he has 24 fights at 39. He is beating the best the HW division has right now, but that isn't saying much. Comparing Usyk to Ali is insanely ridiculous.

Run and shoot at the same time like black boxers will serve Top Soviet Bivol well against Fat Dave who is a swarmer with the feet of a slugger:lol1: Because of his foot faults he leaves blank spaces for Top Soviet Bivol to jab away at between the exchanges and control the fight Fat Dave is open for a multitude of rights: straights, crosses, hooks, to the body I appreciate your loyalty to Bivol for real. But I think you are in for a real letdown when they fight. As far as Beterbiev.... I believe anyone that goes toe to toe with him still loses even at this point. But Bivol will never do it and Benavidez is alot better at not getting hit than the "pure boxer" commentators will admit.

Loma is an all timer in terms of talent. He waited too long to go pro and fought far too long and too often as an amateur. As a result he was injury prone throughout his career and he s t u p i d l y fought when he was one handed more than fans even know. His skill and ring IQ will allow to beat mid to good tier fighters even at nearly 40. He will compete with elite guys but may not be able to beat them at his age. I think he beats Muratalla and Tank at this point. Shakur would be a big task. If Loma has a great night then he could pull it off. But more than likely he loses a UD. It would be great if the time off has allowed him to heal and he comes back 100% healthy. Behind the scenes he was dealing with constant back and shoulder issues for the last half of his career.

Apparently Benavidez made a mess of Bivol in sparring when he was like 19. Benavidez humbled a very talented Morrell and ruined his confidence. You guys will see if the fight ever gets made.

Benavidez ruined Morrell. Took his confidence and Morrell is the type of guy who needs major confidence.

At this stage Bivol gets beat by Benavidez. Biev tried to box with Bivol and when Bivol kept running I mean moving away Biev got frustrated. Benavidez has faster hands than Bivol and one thing not often mentioned about Benavidez is his sneakily good head movement. All the "Benavidez has no feet" talk ignores the obvious. Benavidez walks guys down and beats the s h i t out of them because he sees big shots coming and he rolls with the shot or totally avoids the shots with head movement. And his hands are so fast that when guys are throwing and missing, Benavidez is immediately hitting them with hard counters. Bivol will have early success but it will be the Plant fight all over again. Benavidez is a master at cutting off the ring and the pressure will get to Bivol inside a few rounds. Benavidez will catch him with a few big shots and Bivol will retreat totally and lose the UD or else he will get f u c k e d up. Benavidez is only getting beat by a big puncher who is willing to trade and who is great pocket fighter IMO. David eats runners up.

I think of Benavidez fighting Biev at this point and if Bena walked in and stopped him it would suck, because I like Biev. If any fighter stop Biev it would suck. But if it was a good fight and both guys tried I wouldn't go on a hate rant about whomever beat him and downplay the guy because I'm butthurt. Why do people do that? Boxing used to be about fans wanting a good fight. Now it seems like the sport is mostly fan boys.

He is exciting, beating good fighters and challenging himself. So of course, F THAT GUY. :rolleyes:

Canelo will never fight Benavidez. Not for 250 million. Not for any amount. His pride and arrogance and inflated ego could not handle it and he knows it very well. He would get beat to a pulp and have to run and then he'd get brutally stopped. The Bud fight was a perfect fight for him. Outskilled, embarrassed. But he wasn't really hurt badly and he knew he could blame it on some bs injury. Canelo's ego is EVERYTHING. This is why he aged out GGG. Prime GGG would have stopped him. Instead Canelo got a gift draw and a decision when he clearly lost the first fight and the second fight was a closer loss that could have been a draw. Canelo will never fight Benavidez. He has enough money and has no reason to take the beating.

U cant like every boxers style and output just not possible Agreed. Guys like Bivol that are SO cautious but could likely KO most guys....that is just maddening for me to watch.

thats a bit odd from what ive read from his opponents bivols power is enough to keep opponents honest as in they cant just rush in regardless and ignore it, canelo even said his power was good if i remember Yeah I have read that. It makes Bivol frustrating for me to watch.

Fat Dave checks 4 of the 5 on my criteria While I usually don’t care for the flat footed Mexican pressure style Given his mold Fat Dave punches pretty accurately, has a good jab, and defends well Fat Dave fights I’ve paid to watch include Gvozdyk Cuban Dave Buff Guy Yarde Fat Gilbert Saul Santos is another Mexican with fights I’ve paid for. He’s a deliberate puncher who had good upper body slickness Are you Russian? You crack me up with Fat Guy Buff Guy stuff. And you seem to love Bivol. I admittedly have a bias towards Biev. I watched him growing up with my dad (who recently passed) and we never missed a fight of his. I think Bivol is a smart fighter but he is way too hesitant to mix it up for my taste. Apparently in sparring he has power, he just doesn't often sit down on his punches in real fights. It frustrates me to watch him because I feel that he could be a fun guy to watch.

Benavidez would be and would have been the first guy to KO Canelo. Canelo knew it well. It is why he ducked David more blatantly than anyone else in his career. Including ducking GGG for years. Benavidez is not getting beaten by anyone from Cruiser down at this point. Bivol might run wait I mean box to a terrible UD like he did in the second Biev fight, but who cares. Biev is unfortunately just too old at this point. I loved watching him for years. Benavidez has no fear and he comes to F guys up, and he has the skills to back it up. He might get UD'd by runners if he has an off night. But anyone dogging him at this point is simply either s t u p i d or just a hater.

I have a feeling Xander exposes Boots a bit. I think Boots will likely win a UD but it will be closer than most people think. Xander is smart in the ring and while not a pure power puncher he is a strong kid who moves well and knows how to fight. He isn't great by any means but his style will give Boots issues and unless Ennis lands a big one early, Xander will give him a real fight.

I said when the s h i t started that Ortiz was trying to get away from GB because the shiek tol him he'd pay crazy money just to see it. The shiek wants nothing to do with Oscar because he has become a delusional i d i o t.

Man. People were talking about the death of boxing in 2008. Compared to the pathetic state the sport is in now, boxing was mainstream back then.

Tito Mercado? Possible. He f'ed Moran up. Shakur is on a different level than Moran. Mercado would have to be alot more aggressive and let his hands go more.

At some point you'd think someine will realize that you have to rough Shakur up and bully the s h i t out of him, make it real ugly, in order to have any chance. No one is going to outbox him. Garcia is fast and has real power. But no one is outboxing Shakur. I doubt Garcia is the guy to do it. But Shakur is never losing to another boxer. The only person ever beating Shakur is a fighter ready to take chances and make it ugly and make it a real fight. Lopez tried to box with him and looked like a guy who had never been in the ring.

This is one of those fights where you know Inoue is going to win but you also know Nakatani is going to land something big and pull off the upset. It feels like an obvious upset but my brain won't allow me to pick against Inoue. Should be a great fight.

It was Pac's first actual fight in years and years. He was rusty and not as willing to get hit and exchange. But his speed was still good and Barrios had no idea how to hurt Pac or deal with his style. Pac at this age is nowhere near his prime but he is still competitive and had he fought a tune up or two he may well have stopped Barrios, ot at least hurt him multiple times and won convincingly. I thought he won anyway, by a round or two. Pac isn't going to be the killer he used to be obviously. That said, if he follows a solid gameplan of landing flurries and not getting hit alot, he could UD good fighters. He isn't beating elite fighters anymore but there aren't many of those left.

Shakur beats all these guys easily. And the fights will be so boring that boxing will lose fans. Make Garcia Haney 2.

The sport is basically in shambles at this point. They are going to push Garcia hard as hell, he has millions who will watch him fight while other guys bring zip. Just the way it is now. Boxing is absolutely a niche sport now. Just ask Jake Paul.

He will do a few exhibitions for big money, fight a few B level guys, do the Pac rematch and if he can he will fight the weakest title holder he can find and try to UD himself into a belt. Then he will duck out with the few 100 mill he has and declare himself the greatest fighter ever. Pac is doing the same, just with more humility. If he happens to lose he will say that all the greats have losses and that he shouldn't be held to a different standard, he is almost 50, etc. I personally liked Floyd for his skill level. Will be interested to see what he has left.

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Look at what happened with Lucia Rijker tried to fight a man. Look at what happened to Claressa Shields against a man in sparring. These are two of the all time greats of women's combat sports and they didn't stand a chance in hell against average male fighters. Now look at Khelif vs any of her opponents. If you think there's any comparison you're straight up delusional. Khelif lost at the previous Olympics and nobody cared because she's in all honesty an unremarkable fighter. It became an issue only after she beat up the IBA-favored Russian at an IBA event in Russia. If you put an actual male boxer of the same weight and experience level in a women's Olympic tournament that man would knock out every single woman in the bracket inside of a minute. Khelif won the gold medal basically with ease. Now openly talking about "lowering their testosterone" before competitions. This is biologically a man. Mid 20's. The male age for peak strength. Is there the possibility that Imane could hurt a female opponent in the future via her male testosterone levels? If another person born with male chromosome enters a women's boxing ring and badly hurts or possibly kills a female boxer, do we then say it's ok? Sounds nutty to me to defend this.