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"The lawsuit filed in the Eighth Judicial District Court in Nevada on Wednesday states, “Crawford shines a spotlight on the systemic racism that runs through Top Rank, Top Rank’s complete inability to properly promote Black fighters, and Top Rank, Arum and Todd DuBoeuf’s disparate treatment of Black fighters, including Crawford.”" https://nypost.com/2022/01/12/terence-crawford-claims-bob-arums-revolting-racial-bias-hurt-his-career/

Robert Garcia and Ellerbe dont like each other. Robert once told Ellerbe "dont shake my hands" on stage in front of everyone to see, and Ellerbe stood there and no one knows what he said for sure but it was rumored through lip readers online that Ellerbe said "ILL BEAT THAT ASS" Facts is Robert didnt want to ruin the weigh in but Robert hit up Ellerbe backstage and Ellerbe punked out. fast forward to today. (which made me laugh and create this) Ellerbe in his feelings, he called out a twitter person to fight and that twitter person called em on it and Ellerbe went MIA. lmfao.

I was watching the Amanda Serrano fight and I see her working her opponents the way you work a heavy bag, you shift from left to right with your momentum and rip towards the opposite side basic boxing. Then you look at her opponent and they cant even place their feets correctly and she just standing still eating every single punch and throwing every punch with no form or class. it went 10 rounds and this is not the only fight like this, Marie eve the other day fought for a title and same thing she kinda knew how to boxing in a scale of 1-10 Ill give her a 3 and her opponent a 0. It went 10 rounds. I think this is the women's boxing in a nutshell the top name in the division kind of know how to box but everyone else doesn't. to me that isn't a competitive sport, no fault or shame to the women competing its just that the skills and talent in the numbers needed to make it a competitive sport just doesn't exist, so for right now it is a glorified exhibition.

These are the beards these fighters are coming into fights with. We seen Stephen Fulton was hurt several times vs Brandon Figueroa and you have to wonder had he not had this extra protection on his chin would he had not survive? Remeber NSAC forced Adrien Broner to shave his beard vs the Molina fight. Citing this rule NAC 467.598  Physical appearance of unarmed combatants. (NRS 467.030) 3.  The Commission’s representative shall determine whether head or facial hair presents any hazard to the safety of the unarmed combatant or his or her opponent or will interfere with the supervision and conduct of the contest or exhibition. If the head or facial hair of an unarmed combatant presents such a hazard or will interfere with the supervision and conduct of the contest or exhibition, the unarmed combatant may not compete in the contest or exhibition unless the circumstances creating the hazard or potential interference are corrected to the satisfaction of the Commission’s representative. —(NAC A 11-2-88; 12-2-97; R070-01, 8-31-2001)

I do not understand these USA boxers who seem afraid to represent USA, the crowd although small was their for it all he had to do was adapt their energy. had Plant came out and said "No Mexico, USA USA USA" and turned it into that, I think this would have sold out of the roof! Fighters needs better PR management and PR coaches to stir the vibe the way they want it to go.

I am now just getting around to watching the Arrivals and we can see that scratch left a slight scar so it was more than a scratch was deep enough to linger. Do you think they still sparred like they normally would have had their been no cut/scratch?

Okay I am not knocking anyone, in fact I am just using math here... The reported numbers are in and states that Herring vs Shakur averaged 1.306 Million views but.... lets put that into context. It had a lead in of 4+ million with the Bama vs Tennessee... which translated to Herring vs Shakur having its peak audience at 2.721 million the very first minute of it telecast... which obviously obscure the true numbers. Lets do some math... 2.721M 590K 610K averages out to 1.306 Million. So the first minute of the event where the lead in was 4 million and saw its peak for 1 minute at 2.721 is what drove Herring vs Shakur numbers up. Great fighter but not yet the star some are claiming him to be,, can he be? sure can just not there yet.

Think about this. Shakur got 1.7 Million for Herring fight which is a regular type fight vs Lopez who got 1.3 million for a Top Teir fight vs Lomachenko. What does this tell us? Does this disspell that Top Rank only values Latino fighters? does Shakur having J Prince and those in his corner paying off? I find this intruging I remeber Lopez had to hold out and fight and claw for that 1.3 million and Herring got 1.7 without a fuss.

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we all seen the scuffle and how Canelo was able to counter and literally land 2 shots that would have turned the lights out on plant had Canelo decided to really hit him. Plant felt this/knew this and decided now to pursue Canelo any further rather wait till some bodies got between them before he tried to intitate anything again. Canelo will KO plant in the first round.

Andre Ward has been on a weird media tour throwing his name out there saying "canelo wont mention his name cause he knows better" and such along that line, and right now on the ESPN feed he goes on a tangent about Canelo and Reynoso throwing shade. To me it comes off fake and just an oppurtunisit who is taking advantage of the momement to get a lil buzz by dissing people who the fight isnt even about. Bradley is bradley but hes on record saying he wish and hope that Valdez gets Knocked out tonight so I dont know how you can have him call teh fight when theirs clearly a personal vandetta now. It will be like breaking that racist judge to judge antoher black fighter fights when we all know she has a personal vandetta against black figthers. we cant expect them to be non bias because they are too emotionally invested. Weird honestly.

Vada does nothing special or unique other than they add over 70 substances that are banned only in Wada "in-Competition" protocol to their Vada Always banned protocol. Thats it. However ask Vada to produce any of the Vada sponsored studies to prove and back up why they have these substances in their "always" banned list? They cannot. Why? They do not have the resources to run test and investigate those findings, they are adding all these substances to the list on shear "perception" value. They want to establish themselves as the premiere testing organization by catching more athletes cheating than the others but how can they do this if they offer nothing unique no one else cant do with a simple phone call or email (vada only facilitate services)? They accomplish this goal by adding more things to the always banned list without any Vada studies to back up their claims. Wada has decades of research to back up their protocol, and investigation team to research and investigate new methods and substances. https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/research/funded-research-projects#2001 Why do you think Vada leaked Oscar Valdez test? does that sound professional? They did it so they can reap the benefits of the controversy. "false perception that are 'better' cause they caught more" Why do Vada associate with Victor Conte? (him and vada account always tweet at the same). An convicted PED criminal who WADA investigation team busted. Does that sound professional? And the Death Blow is that The association of Boxing Commission follows Wada protocol not Vada, so anytime 'Vada' issues a false 'failed' test for anything thats not in WADA protocol banned list for the time it was taken its means absolutely nothing, just vada seeking a lil buzz for their organization. The boxing commission will not respect any Vada failed test for these incidents (as they should since vada is essentially making up their protocol out of thin air with no vada studies behind it to back it up). Mind you no other sport uses vada aswell, Vada only got their foot in the door as a cheap alternative to the other organization but... their prices are 31k minimum. (thats alot of money for making phone calls and sending emails). So in conclusion, vada is a bust, it is only embraced by the only sport that would allow such an inept company to thrive in it in the first place. Their protocol is backed by no scientific studies they have ran, they leak their findings to the boxing reporters first before the actual fighters or promoters or even boxing commissions because they know their test are invalid but they want the "FAME" from the controversy anyways. They are associated with a convicted PED criminal who has made boxing his home oddly enough similar to vada its practically the only sport where he/they are employable.

This means Valdez is did not fail a test. The Association of Boxing Commissions made the correct call to go with the informed, researched Wada protocol over Vada made up protocol (who has no research department, no investigation deparment, just a person with a laptop sending emails).

Victor Conte is a convicted PED pusher. Under WADA's code any association with him is a anti-doping violation meaning no boxers or any athletes can hire him. With Vada they have no such provisions so any boxer can hire him, its why he pushes so hard for Vada its to ensure he can stay employable to these athletes. Nobody else uses vada except for boxing. Conte Cilent list Caleb Plant Mikey Garcia Devin Haney Casey Morton Boo Boo Andrade Nicola Adams Jean Pascal Danny Jacobs Shawn Porter Andre Berto Josesito Lopez Willie Monroe jr Bruno Esclante Ivan Redkach Julion JROCK williams Stan Martyunoik Vanes Martiroysan Andy Vences Erik De Leon Mario Barrios and theirs more.... Its all just for Job Security.

It was Amanda Serreno in the corner getting advice to "BOX" and do not engage her till your ready. So basically Amanda Serreno and her corner are upset because a lower skilled figher who moved up in weight who you were supposed to looked spectacular was able to touch you up and you wasnt able to stop her.

Do any of you people here remeber when BJ Flores was fighting an asian fighter and was getting beat and his corner tells him to cut off the ring and he replied with "HOW DO I DO THAT?" Nothing Jake Paul can learn from BJ Flores.

Tank davis held one real title and he dropped that today. Hes other belts were regular/intermim type belts from the WBA however the WBA has put out a memo that they are dispensing with all belts that arent the Real Title so that means the regular titles tank holds are null and void. I think this is a good thing, now it forces him to play ball with the other champions if he wants a title, my only fear is he will play the sidelines taking on important fights and gimmicky fights till a vacant title appears and try to make a grab for that. Rumors are haney is thinking about moving to 140 so that can leave his belt unless WBC does whats correct and just eliminate that belt and demote franchise to real world champion... Im getting off on a tangent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnfj8m7DW1A Mind you Nonito here threaten Casimero life in a way by saying "Im from the streets we can handle it on the streets and thats different from a fight; I'll stop when I need to stop or someone stops me" So casimero is clowning you calling you a chicken and everything but you are upset, but here you threaten his life. Make it make sense. Nonito is ducking Casimero and the more he talks about it the more he exposes himself.

Lets get ugas paid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3L8KX6CcdQ

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The sport is ran like this for a reason, because he forgive them too much. The fail safe like a purse bid are in-place to keep the integrity of the sport in-place, and if we allow fighters to dismiss it and shrug the requirements of the sanctioning bodies they are ranked to than theirs is no more control over the sport and boxing is just a glamour show. Where a fighter is matched with another fighter based on non boxing criteria. The 60/40 split is fair no matter what way it cuts because no one is making outrageously more money than the other. Their was plenty of time to hash out details and stuff like that that but that couldn't happen so this is the route outlined in the rules so this is where we are at. I understand you cannot make a fighter fight if he doesnt want to fight but come on, we know what is at play here and its not the boxers its the boxers owners (Haymon, Arum) who are playing some war chest games with their fighters as pawn for their own organization gain. So if the figthers go along with it, with as fans must "CANCEL" them and what does that mean and how it looks IDK but its shockingly amazing how fans support and even root for these type of fall outs.

in the WBC (however he will be bumped up once they update)Their is a lot of rumble between fans about Ortiz and Ennis. Ortiz is on the steps of a Title Shot, Having fought quality opposition and imo he's career is just a few steps ahead of Boots Ennis who barely had his first step up fight vs a 140lbs moving up in Dejan. I think a good way for Boots to propel his name a lil more is to beat Mean Machine better than Ortiz did it. Mean Machine is a free agent as I understand it and he is a great fighter who deserves opportunities (top rank had to let him go cause they got no welterweights to feast on). and I dont see how some of these alphabet orgs have boots ahead on Ortiz, you dont use p4p criteria (aka eyetest) to rank divisional rankings. WBC RING WBC IBF WBO ORTIZ 9 4 15 1 ENNIS 7 8 4 6

He hasnt had a single respectable defense, and when he won the title he was getting beat up in the championship rounds. No quality defense on his resume and Canelo KO's him and takes his championship belt and Caelb Plant never goes on to win another title. Will this make him a fluke Champion? Comparable to Charles Martin?

Before you vote understand this. Caleb Plant turned down a fight offer that would have seen him get his ask (10 million) to fight on Dazn. That deal was denied by Caleb Plant. (its the reason Canelo was forced to try and negotiate a deal with PBC that ultimately failed and saw Caleb Plant miss out on this fight) Question #1) If Al Haymon was only Caleb Plant advisor/manager Al Haymon would have advised Caleb Plant to take the Dazn deal for biggest paycheck of his career. True or False Question #2) Since Al Haymon is the Owner of "PBC" boxing brand with network deals and sponsorships and other legal binding contracts and is also Caleb Plant advisor/manager Al Haymon advised Caleb Plant to refuse the Dazn deal to leverage Canelo to come to Al Haymon owned "PBC" boxing Brand so it can benefit Al Haymon and his residual business dealings on the PBC back-end. Al Haymon advised Caleb Plant in Al Haymon's own Interest rather than in Caleb Plant's interest? True or False

Earlier today ESJ shared his Irish heritage over twitter, I know Andre Ward also had a Irish Blood Line. Who are the Top Irish Boxers or Irish Descendant boxer?

Ryan Garcia KO over Luke Campell - 15.6M Views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeHUHuIRXHo Tank KO over LSC & Barrios - 8.19M Combined Views (ryans has 2x more views) Tank KO over Leo Santa Cruz - 2.3M (ryan has 7x more views) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UObF2sftV_4 Tank KO over Mario Barrios - 5.8M (ryan has roughly 3 times more views) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL741-fh_J0 So in all reality its Ryan Garcia with the real Star Power in those weigh classes. Men lie, Women Lie, Numbers Dont Lie!

Why postponement is not a viable option. If plants get injured and the fight get postponed than the 40 million dollar purse is to low of an offer. Canelo fights 3 times in a 6 months period with an logical assumption of 2 regular fights at a 15 million guarantee and a big fight at a 30 million dollar guarantee + his sponsorship, gate and all of Latin America TV right's Canelo is ball-parked to earn about 90 million in these 6 months. Now if he has to wait around beholden to a PBC contract over a injury postponement he is losing 6 months worth of earning potential which as I just explained is roughly valued at 90 million. Why 40 million for a replacement is fair. Canelo conceded to PBC/Haymon to come to their network to make the fight happen on the basis that he fights on his date which is Mexican Independence day (September 15 weekend). So if plant cant fight on that date due to injury/sickness than the show must go on as to Canelo stipulation that he must fight on that date. To fulfill this stipulation you must supply a replacement and the 40 million price tag remains because you are paying for the superstar Canelo to leave his preferred network (Dazn) and possibly lose some favor over this choice to come to your network where you are able to re-negotiate sponsorship, money, network options etc all because of Canelo involvement. Also because the alternative is you can let Plant go to Dazn where they will foot the bill for the purse of the fighters and take you off the hook from this money commitment and replacement commitment. You send plant over and if he gets injured the fight is off and Canelo show goes on at Dazn and they will supply him with the replacement and pay his fee and you are off the hook. However they WANT Canelo on their network this is why they are and should pay that premium. Why the 40 million is insurance against shady business Also why $40 million for a replacement clause is important to keep in place is to encourage no funny business and that everything goes as promised. Its akin to fighters putting expensive "penalty" for being overweight, they do it to make sure the fighter comes in on weight and does not try to "take advantage". Canelo is using the $40 million dollar price tag for replacements in this way aswell. He is making sure that the "penalty" (40 million) is to harsh for PBC to try and "take advantage" (miss weight or in this case plant getting "Hurt/Sick" to post pone the fight). PBC knows Canelo is dead set to fight on September 18, without the clause aka "penalty" to ensure no funny business Caleb Plant can essentially get "Hurt/Sick" the week of the fight and get his postponement and PBC can substitute a replacement for Canelo to fight on the 18th which will essentially turn a 1 fight deal into a 2 fight deal. This clause is a penalty to make sure they dont do that and encourages that everything goes to plan. Why if Plant gets injured/sick fight cant just be called off. You cannot ask a fighter to forfeit a paycheck if the original fight cant be had. If plant gets injured/sick and the fight is called off Canelo is robbed of the opportunity to capitalize on his fight date and self promotion this is why replacement opponents are factored in (think Ruiz replacement over Miller) alot of money, time and effort goes into making a fight and you can not expect them to treat this as if its spilled milk and lost out on the time and potential $. EDIT UPDATE: Fight officially off however is possible to pick up negations at a later date. look at the entire picture and realize why this fight really fell apart. Caleb Plant have already finalized and signed off on his portion of the contract weeks ago, this is a dispute between PBC (Haymon) and Canelo. Haymon has PBC interest above any one fighter so when he negotiates its for the betterment of his outfit "PBC" rather than the fighter (Caleb Plant). Please understand that. If Haymon was only just Caleb Plant's manager/advisor the fight would have been made already, accept Canelo/Dazn/Matchroom deal and fight over at Dazn for the one off and make your career high payday. However Haymon isn't just only the manager but also is more importantly the owner of the PBC "entity" and this entity's betterment takes priority over the fighter. Its the reason Caleb Plant cant go over and fight at Dazn, its the reason for the high guarantee to get Canelo to come to PBC (so PBC can benefit through the residual effects of Canelo's brand featured in your outfit). This is one main reason the Ali act exist to prevent these conflict of interest from exploiting the fighter for the "manger's/promoter's" gain. Mind you in real PPV non covid times a fighter will just fight on if sick so this issue wasn't really an issue, just now in covid times you cannot just 'fight on' if you have covid the fight must be cancelled or postpone. Canelo's main and hard stipulation prior to even opening up negations was that he MUST fight on September 18th... so this is not new or a last minute request this is letting the other party know what is your hard terms so that both parties can decide if they can come to a deal or not its called "negotiating in good faith". This stipulation is something PBC knew about from the start but wanted to strategically omit it till the closing of negations as a strong-arm tactic to force Canelo's hand into accepting the deal as they wrote it up and not how Canelo originally presented it on this particaly hard term. Now Canelo only has 50 days to secure an opponent for his date so he strategically decided to call off this fight and leave it possible to pick up negations for a later date however for right now he has to secure a fighter for his hard date.

timestamp @ its right when Castano lines up getting ready for the Face Off (its still live so cant time stamp yet. ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpsc3H0Z6lE